People spew this bullshit way too much.
"Zed has no weaknesses but you can CC him so shut up noob"
"Yasuo can outdamage the ADC and outtank the Garen but you can CC him so shut up noob"
"Illaoi has a 67% win rate with a steraks but you can CC her so shut up noob"
No Yellow Norco11 votesIt is counterplay. It's just that it is counterplay to every single champion (minus like Olaf), so using it as an argument is pretty dumb.
Astôlfo2 votesWell, CC affects some champions a lot harder than others, so not necessarily.
dragon1xx1 votes
Ireliavence2 votes[slayer-jinx-catface]
No Yellow Norco1 votesYeah, but it still stops other champs from doing their job. Sure, CCing Yasuo allows you to kill him. But, CCing Voli from rekting your ADC so he can pew pew pew the enemy team also stops him from doing his job.
Astôlfo1 votesYeah I know, CC is a universal counter. I'm just saying it's perfectly fine to use as an argument because of how differently it affects different champions.
No Yellow Norco1 votesBut when you can use it against virtually every champion, "just cc them" is not a relevant argument.
Astôlfo2 votesI mean you can, but the results will be vastly different.
"i dun like this tank's cc" 'CC them before they CC you.' Sure, you can, but there's no point. Even if you did CC them, there's still the rest of the team, tanks deal next to no damage, are just meat walls after they burn their CC, and are tanky enough to probably survive even with being CC'd.
"i dun like this assassin" 'CC them.' Okay, now they're dead and have to wait to respawn and then get all the way across the map again.
No Yellow Norco1 votes"i dun like how voli flips our adc and rekts him" 'CC him and now your adc deals many damages because your front line is peeling while theirs is diving.'
Vistha Kai2 votesUltimately every champion in the game has the same counterplay with variable intensity.
As such merely using the word "counterplay" is "dumb" by those standards, because every champion DOES HAVE counterplay.
No Yellow Norco1 votesAt least you tried.
Vistha Kai2 votesI tried and I succeeded.
Whenever it was acknowledged by the masses, I do not care.
DunkinNoobs5 votesCC is naturally a more effective counter to melee champs than it is to ranged champs because melee champs need to necessarily be in melee range to be a threat, thus making them easier to CC in the first place. In addition, they're also more likely to be close to several enemies at once due to being melee, and being stunned next to 4 enemies is far more dangerous than being stunned next to just 1 enemy. So yeah, Master Yi IS countered by CC because it shuts down his threat, prevents him from getting resets, and locks him down long enough for your team to focus him down. I would not recommend blowing stuns on a Mundo, by contrast.
Vistha Kai5 votes#Counterplay 101 by League of Legends Boards
What isn't counterplay:
What is counterplay:
EndlessSorcerer3 votes"Having to change what I am doing wrong in any way, shape or form is not valid counter-play."
Some people are just dumb. Welcome to the internet.
Vistha Kai2 votes"Having to change what I am doing wrong in any way, shape or form is not valid counter-play."
I suppose that's a valid TL;DR of my post.
Some people are just dumb. Welcome to the internet.
I swear it wasn't THAT bad in previous seasons, though. Like I feel Yasuo is getting 5 times the backslash, say, Riven got since I started playing in November 2012.
Gary B Enkelis1 votesWasn't 
banned for like all of season 2? I wasn't playing draft at that time but I heard he was powerful.
Vistha Kai3 votesAs far as I know, he was a jungler back then and you can imagine how fun he must've been to play against.
You're under your tower cowering from ganks? Not anymore you're not!
lofi n chillhop4 votes"just cc/just run away" is counter play to a fed champion, any fed champion.
if they are fed, either you force them to be useless by making plays only when they aren't near, or you force them to be useless by cc'ing them.
tbh the best counterplay is to clear waves then pull out then clear waves then pull out, while mainitaing enough vision of them to be sure they aren't grouping.
Shadòw3 votesYou know, you can just cc said Champions. Or just run away from them.
R7 Factor2 votesWhat happens when you pick a champ with no counterplay against another champ with no counterplay?
M4DN35S1 votesDepends on who is more bullshit and who gets more ganks.
Ireliavence1 votesthee worse player, loses, and makes a boards post about it.
Astôlfo1 votesExcept there are none.
Astôlfo2 votesExcept CC is counterplay, so your logic is invalid.
Also all 3 of the champions you're whining and crying about are more or less balanced (exception being tank Yasuo).
Nice try at making a whiny QQ repwhore thread attempt based around fallacies though.
GULAG 4 U2 votesCc is counterplay.
CC is more effective on zed than on say, a fucking olaf.
Cc is more effective on yasuo than on irelia.
Also tanksuo got nerfed, so yeah...
And how does a guy that builds 2 bruiser items then proceed to go tank is tankier than the guy who goes cleaver into full tank?
Arthastheiceking1 votesty for making this post my friend
Bârd1 votes...
Yes, yes it is.
Ireliavence1 votesif YOU, make the choice of not playing any cc, FUCKING EVER. then expect to lose more than you have too, until you get much better at the game.
so learn to play some fucking cc, or get gud.
