Boards›[ARCHIVED] Miscellaneous

Fizz/J4

Curious Kat··2 votes·311 views

Are fizz or J4 receiving any nerfs anytime soon, i am getting really tired of being 2 shotted.

Fizz just E's and autos, boom it procs lich bane and thunderlords DEAD.

J4 just E, Q and activate your item 3748 and boom win, your thunderlords finished off what your E,Q, W didn't and gg, literally just face rolled on the keyboard and successfully completed j4's kit.

These champs are too strong and leave 0 counterplay, you can't counter a 2 shot. It's impossible... You die in literally 0.5 to 1 second flat. You only get to flash every once in a while, and what good does going tanky as an ADC do against a fizz? turn a 2 shot into a 3 shot? woopdie fucking doo, real great. MErc scim to get his ult off? Real helpful when all he has to do is E, Auto and he wins.

You can't tell me either-wise either, because iv'e played both champions quite throughly many times, i know exactly how they work, how cheap they are, how broken they are, and how much damage they do with so little effort. I can play fizz with my eyes closed, and build J4 with a titanic and a sunfire and ur set for life for dives!

SO unless ADC's are supposed to build 3 armor items now a days, or 3 MR items, champs like j4 and fizz need to be toned down, they do TOO much with too little.

I mean honestly, there should always be room for counterplay, and getting killed in 0.5 seconds, is just stupid,,,, I guess i have to go item 3068 item 3022 item 3053 as an ADC now just to be able to survive long enough to even shit my pants.....

13 Comments

Astôlfo1 votes

Neither of them need nerfs in the slightest. And there is tons of counterplay and counter options. You just fail to acknowledge them.

Curious Kat1 votes

{quoted}

Neither of them need nerfs in the slightest. And there is tons of counterplay and counter options. You just fail to acknowledge them.

List one single thing to counter a Fizz that just has to E, and auto you.

I don't think you are smart enough to grasp just how fast that is, it's about 0.5 seconds to 1 second flat, if you have no flash as an ADC, how the fuck are you supposed to avoid a LOCK ON FUCKING E that did over 70% of your life, and then an auto that triggers lich bane and thunderlords for more damage than you have health.

List one single thing.

Am i supposed to build Zhonyas and full armor on ADC's now? Don't fucking comment if you aren't smart enough to grasp the post.

Astôlfo1 votes

You're going at this the wrong way. You're not going to almost ever beat Fizz in a 1v1. Same with Jarvan IV. That's the point. You're a squishy ADC. Those champions are exclusively designed to target you out and kill you.

The fact you got caught out alone is your first error. Good warding, playing smart (if it's probably a trap, then play like it is/if you think the jungler is coming for you, treat it as if they are/etc), and sticking together with your team are all things you can do. If you decide not to do those things, that's your fault.

Also Fizz's E is not lock-on. It's still a skillshot.

No, no one said you had to buy Zhonya's/full resistances. Stop crying and whining if you're bad and don't understand anything about what you're busy ranting on. You're criticizing me for supposed lack of intelligence, but the hilarious thing is you fail to recognize the irony.

Curious Kat1 votes

{quoted}

You're going at this the wrong way. You're not going to almost ever beat Fizz in a 1v1. Same with Jarvan IV. That's the point. You're a squishy ADC. Those champions are exclusively designed to target you out and kill you.

The fact you got caught out alone is your first error. Good warding, playing smart (if it's probably a trap, then play like it is/if you think the jungler is coming for you, treat it as if they are/etc), and sticking together with your team are all things you can do. If you decide not to do those things, that's your fault.

Also Fizz's E is not lock-on. It's still a skillshot.

No, no one said you had to buy Zhonya's/full resistances. Stop crying and whining if you're bad and don't understand anything about what you're busy ranting on. You're criticizing me for supposed lack of intelligence, but the hilarious thing is you fail to recognize the irony.

And here comes the irony that completely smashes your entire comment AGAIN, you are not smart enough. I never once said that i tried to 1 on 1 them, i never said i got caught out, in fact, the match went a little something like this. They had 3 tanks, we had 0 tanks, they had a super long range ADC and a fizz mid lane. So your ASSUMPTION that i was getting caught out, or trying to 1 on 1 them as an ADC, is just ignorant and stupid in it's own right.

That being said, every single team fight, fizz would literally DASH which is THE LOCK ON through a team mate, and E onto me, without flash, you can't avoid his E point blank unless the fizz sucks total nutsack. I would stay in the back and try to poke, but with no tanks, we have no frontline allowing for an OP champ like Fizz or J4 to just have their way with every single engage, j4 could single handedly kill 3 of my team mates by himself, and fizz could 2 shot anyone he wanted E or not.

HE either had to Q and auto attack you and you would die, or he would E an auto attack you and you would die, no ult needed.

All this being said, what magical ill thought bullshit comment are you going to come up with next kid?

Billy VoHagen1 votes

If they have a Fizz on their team, you're team should have had a tank.

Hell, every team should have at least 1 tank.

Curious Kat1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Billy VoHagen,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=neJg1RLs,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-19T01:26:59.946+0000)

If they have a Fizz on their team, you're team should have had a tank.

Hell, every team should have at least 1 tank.

Yes but that is not in my control sadly, i could only pick the champ for the role i got. Sadly the match was bad because of horrible team comp, which is probably why j4 and fizz were so troublesome.

Billy VoHagen1 votes

So, two champs who function best when there is no tank on the enemy team did well when there was no tank on the enemy team?

hmmmm....http://imgur.com/a/h8nNq

Curious Kat1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Billy VoHagen,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=neJg1RLs,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-19T02:17:19.736+0000)

So, two champs who function best when there is no tank on the enemy team did well when there was no tank on the enemy team?

hmmmm....http://imgur.com/a/h8nNq

Yep, who knew, i would still prefer to not be 2 shotted regardless of everything i could possibly try to do. That would mean there is 0 counterplay in this game if you don't have a tank, and that is sad.

Astôlfo1 votes

You aren't going to change your opinion or bother learning, so stay salty. Cry more kid. It's obviously not helping you. :)

Curious Kat1 votes

{quoted}

You aren't going to change your opinion or bother learning, so stay salty. Cry more kid. It's obviously not helping you. :)

Lol you lost, move on kid.

Astôlfo1 votes

Grow up. And for someone who "lost", they're not the ones crying about champions that are fine because they don't know what to do. :)

Curious Kat1 votes

{quoted}

Grow up. And for someone who "lost", they're not the ones crying about champions that are fine because they don't know what to do. :)

Look, you are the one who decided to try to disprove me, by trying to take things out of context, not me, go the hell away you freaking loser, you lost the argument move on and accept that you butted into something that you lacked the proper knowledge to understand.

Don't be ignorant and a sore loser. Bad combo.

Astôlfo1 votes

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT. I'M CRYING LAUGHING.

More from [ARCHIVED] Miscellaneous

Open Letter to Parents of League of Legends Players
[ARCHIVED] Miscellaneous860 comments
2,611
votes
Rewards for positive play
[ARCHIVED] Miscellaneous19,712 comments
1,337
votes
I don't like Boards
[ARCHIVED] Miscellaneous324 comments
809
votes
STOP ALLOWING LEVEL 1 ACCOUNTS TO SEND FRIEND REQUESTS!!!
[ARCHIVED] Miscellaneous291 comments
679
votes
Wanting to do something special for an awesome friend. Riot, please help? <3
[ARCHIVED] Miscellaneous220 comments
614
votes
People that are telling others to kill themselves has to stop! Please help me get this noticed!
[ARCHIVED] Miscellaneous605 comments
600
votes

More by Curious Kat

Know what? Think Iv'e had enough for this season
Gameplay59 comments
130
votes
Pyke is still fucking broken as shit
Gameplay66 comments
124
votes
Rengar should not be able to leap AFTER LEAVING A BUSH
Gameplay86 comments
119
votes
ARAM is seriously fucked up
Report a Bug82 comments
102
votes
I miss nexus blitz
Gameplay17 comments
48
votes
Worse part about this game recently
Gameplay34 comments
47
votes