Heres an idea, for supports!

LICENSED HOOKER·Jun 20, 2015·3 votes·838 views

They get 100% entitlement to cannon minion. I mean come on folks we are practically your parents in lane, the least you could do.

28 Comments

Final GirIJun 20, 20152 votes

As an ADC main and looking at these responses, I think ADCs are just greedy and to be honest we kind of are. We want to get our items ASAP, but we don't realize is that if our Supports can get a bit of extra gold they can get their items faster as well and help us better.

LICENSED HOOKERJun 20, 20151 votes

Exactly, its just a small proposition its a 50gold that can help us get item 2049 faster because god forbid adc wards and then that helps us get vision so that when you die you cant blame me even though i spam pings, but ur to busy trying to dive a cait..

Final GirIJun 21, 20151 votes

I duo with my best friend, I ADC and he supports. As long as he let's me get the kills, I don't mind him taking a CS from time to time.

ShuffledPancakeJun 20, 20151 votes

That is a shit idea, if you have relic, you wait till the cannon comes so both of you get it , spell thiefs - hit them, coin- AFK, no need to take what? 50 gold off them? and fuck there csing.

LICENSED HOOKERJun 20, 20151 votes

Thanks for the positive reply! Stay frosty friend.

ShuffledPancakeJun 20, 20151 votes

If you arent gonna argue, (constructively). Maybe tell me why i am wrong? oh wait im not. Dislike all you want you still fail.

LICENSED HOOKERJun 20, 20151 votes

Have you even played support, alright heres what happens.

If you support is a little new at adc or just plain bad = no money for you, unless you run coin but i mean come on coin sucks on thresh and alistar or leona. After all your purpose to protect the adc Now if you support is good you can easily get gold yes but its only assists, god forbid you get a kill once in a while

ShuffledPancakeJun 21, 20151 votes

There is on running money flooding in, you have alot of options past first buy.

LICENSED HOOKERJun 21, 20151 votes

I've given up on this idea..

ShuffledPancakeJun 21, 20151 votes

Good.

ShuffledPancakeJun 20, 20151 votes

they get all the cs they want when the adcs backs/dies/roams.

PBnJellyJun 20, 20151 votes

Nah, that's a pretty dumb idea tbh. And no, I'm not being biased because I actually main support.

The whole reason why the support lanes with the ADC is because they provide a lot for the ADC while not requiring gold in return. The only gold you really need on the support is for wards, boots and sightstone.

If you're playing a champ that requires gold to be useful, then they aren't an effective support champion. I'm not saying that you CAN'T play them, but it's not optimal. It's why supports are the champs with heals, shields, cc, etc. Or even just high base damage and strong poke in lane like Vel'koz or Annie.

LICENSED HOOKERJun 20, 20151 votes

Alright so tell me, what do i do once we go mid and i have not enough gold to be of use, thresh doesn't make magic happen with his hands. He may be overloaded but thats useless if i get popped after hooking someone.

PBnJellyJun 20, 20151 votes

Hook someone
Team follows up on hook
Hooked person dies

Actually, thank you for bringing Thresh up because he's a perfect example. Just because you hook someone doesn't mean you have to reactivate that q. Don't be a Lee Sin. Thresh allows you to not only engage from long distances, but also disengage with his lantern. And none of this requires any items. Thresh isn't some super tank where you walk into the middle of the enemy team and sit there ticking your cinderhulk on them.

Also if you hook someone and you die alone for it, you probably were mispositioned/hooked the wrong person.

LICENSED HOOKERJun 20, 20151 votes

I still get blown up unless i have items..

PBnJellyJun 20, 20151 votes

That just means you have to position better.

LICENSED HOOKERJun 20, 20151 votes

How -_- your saying that me not having items = my fault for not positioning?

PBnJellyJun 20, 20151 votes

I never said that If an ADC stands near the enemy assassin then they're gonna get blown up whether they have items or not. It's the same thing with support. If you try to engage on someone while their team is close enough to kill you then that means you're gonna die whether you have items or not. Playing bad results in deaths. Also if you die but your team wins the fight off of your engage then you did your job regardless of your death.

LICENSED HOOKERJun 20, 20151 votes

You are getting a little to off topic from what i originally proposed though

PBnJellyJun 20, 20151 votes

I'd say I'm doing the opposite. I'm trying to explain why supports don't need gold. Let me try to sum it up.

ADC purpose = damage (you need gold for that) Mage/Assassin purpose = damage (you need gold for that) Support purpose = CC/Sustain/Disengage/Whatever (you don't need gold for that)

The reason why teams pump their gold into ADC and Mid is because they are the ones who use the gold most effectively.

Tanks are in a similar situation to Supports, where you do need survivability, but you're still useful without it because you'll generally have CC/Engage. However, you still want your tank to be able to survive so they can be a strong frontline for your damage dealers.

This is why Alistar is such a strong champion. He has that 70% damage reduction on his ult so he can be a frontline even with the low support income.

Thresh isn't really a beefy frontline champ because he doesn't have that inherent tankiness like Alistar or Leona. Thresh is more of a "wait for the enemy to misposition and take advantage of it" champ, just like Blitz. Except the difference is that Thresh is also useful outside of his hook because he can also peel extremely well. And none of that requires any gold because gold doesn't make CC any better.

RaxicorJun 20, 20151 votes

item 3302 Gives you those opportunities and can be built to make you tanky. WIn, win. Most of a support's gold comes from their support item and assists. Make plays, make money. It works pretty well.

LICENSED HOOKERJun 20, 20151 votes

thats why i want cannon ._.

RaxicorJun 20, 20151 votes

Um, auto it. lols

LICENSED HOOKERJun 20, 20151 votes

I know but i want it to be acceptable so i dont get flammed for it.

RaxicorJun 20, 20151 votes

It is acceptable. Its the whole point of the item. If you're getting flamed then I suspect the ADC is not a lvl 30.

FuryofThornsRedoJun 20, 20151 votes

Thought Team Supports were Driven to Heal their teammates and Run as Support? Did not know about the increased need of Greedy definitions of needing Gold begging for cannon minion was any concern a Team Support could or should own?

I play the game and earn the gold where I can without any stipulations with preconceived actions of calling dibs on who kills which minion. Really?

Guess the level of health or the other Team Supports needs fall far down the list of Priorities as you Subject Discussion ides suggests to me; which is my opinion I an allowed and entitled to own.

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