PSA: before you rage about a champ being op in any way...

I Main Swain·Aug 1, 2017·3 votes·225 views

play them for a while, enough that you get used to them. i can guarantee that 9 times of 10 youll find some clear ways you can deal with them

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oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 1, 20172 votes

the more game knowledge you have and learning champs/ match ups etc the better you will find yourself. there are champs i dont play cuz i dont like them but i have played in custom and bots to get an idea of how they work

GlîtchyAug 1, 20171 votes

You really don't need to do that to see how broken Fizz Syndra Pantheon Fiora and Darius are

oSEXYPLATYPUSoAug 1, 20172 votes

you missed the point

I Main SwainAug 1, 20171 votes

i will say i havent found fizz's core weakness beyond the inherent weaknesses that go with being melee, but pantheon is very mana hungry, his full combo will do some serious damage to his mana bar. tanks and fighters screw him over. syndra and fiora i havent gotten much opportunity to use. darius is immobile and has no sustain if he cant hit you with his q, so brief trades, poke, and cc are best going up against him.

all that being said, this isnt about whether or not champions are broken. this is about people complaining about a champion being OP without any firsthand knowledge of what its like to play as one.

GlîtchyAug 1, 20171 votes

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i will say i havent found fizz's core weakness beyond the inherent weaknesses that go with being melee, but pantheon is very mana hungry, his full combo will do some serious damage to his mana bar. tanks and fighters screw him over. syndra and fiora i havent gotten much opportunity to use. darius is immobile and has no sustain if he cant hit you with his q, so brief trades, poke, and cc are best going up against him.

all that being said, this isnt about whether or not champions are broken. this is about people complaining about a champion being OP without any firsthand knowledge of what its like to play as one.

The point being, I've played those champs while they were free rotation, or I go them out of crates, and I hated myself for even playing them.

I Main SwainAug 1, 20171 votes

for me fizz and darius are like that (havent played enough/recently enough for the others to know), i got them and theyre honestly so easy to do incredibly well on. but yeah i get what you mean

I Main SwainAug 1, 20171 votes

as an example, i once had an entire team in a ranked game tell me swain was a no skill cheese free win champ because i was able to 1v5 their team, but they didnt take into consideration the fact that i had a large level advantage, i had an outrageous number of kills, their damage dealers were behind even by normal standards and they had no significant cc or healing reduction on their team. people frequently mistake a player being very good or fed or being your counter for being op or having no counteraplay