I figured out why this game is losing it's touch

Curious Kat··1 votes·429 views

There is no more counterplay, or very little. There is such a set way to build every single champion now, that was NEVER INTENDED to be built that way.

Quinn wasn't designed to rush item 3053 item 3156 item 3022

Yas wasn't designed to build item 3022 item 3053 item 3078

Ekko wasn't designed to build item 3025 item 3068

Nor was Akali designed to build item 3068 item 3075 item 3065.

Those are just some examples.

What do all these kinds of builds have in common? They are unbeatable, you can't counter them, you can get all the Arm pen, or even try to counter defense with defense, but in reality, these items are fucking broken.. Tank builds should not be as tanky as full tank builds, and still do the same damage as normal damage builds if not more. And it allows champs that would be beatable regardless of their kit, to be unbeatable.

Counterplay has also been lost from a gamepoint view of champs.

Liss just has to W and it's an instant team fight win, or to be more specific, E, W, Alt R = 5 man stun and you did 80% of their life so your team can 1 shot them all and clean up. Malph justs R's and half your life is gone regardless of him being tanky build or not again letting his team clean up before you ever touch the ground. Darius just builds full tank and because of his passive is allowed to do insane damage in prolonged fights. Akali just E, R and win (hopefully that changes with her rework) Ahri doesn't even have to charm you or Q you, couple ult dashes and her W with an auto attack is plenty to kill you Zed just R's , E, and autos, doesn't even have to land his Q thanks to thunderlords, so unless you have flash your screwed if he ults on an immobile champ.

Get the picture? I'm saying that a lot of champs don't even have to land their one and only skill shots built into their kit to even kill you! These again, are just few examples of champs like this. I am not even going to go into how much cc is in the game and how much of it is LOCK ON and not skill oriented, and how all we have is a merc scim and merc treads to counter it.

Sad thing, this isn't even the meta, Tanks are the meta yes, but building assassins as tanks and abusing both benefits of broken items and broken/outdated kits just leaves 0 counterplay. How can you fight an akali that can turret dive you the moment she has a sunfire cap and still 3 shot you while not taking damage under the turret... Her rework can't come soon enough tbh.

People in this game just have an obsession now with abusing these items, and it really has ruined the game, first dynamic queue ruined the competitive integrity of the game, and just all out failed and flopped, the only good thing we got was champ select and reworks. Dynamic queue, nobody likes except the few Riot ball suckers who suck on everything RIot gives them, a ban? OH THANK YOU RIOT GODS, shitty broken items that need nerfed? Thank you Riot gods, Over nerfed your main? Oh thank you Riot gods! ETC. And now the new best thing is being as toxic as possible as a premade and building these items and winning against solo queue players.

The point is, there is so little counterplay available in a "competitive" game now, even if you build to try to counter these kinds of builds, you want an answer to why this game has become what it is? Look at these itemsitem 3022 item 3053 item 3068 these and many more are what are destroying the game alongside with dynamic queue. It's so rare for champs to just be OP by themself with normal builds, but when you put item 3053 item 3022 together, any AD champion is broken.

I mean sure, you can argue that there is counter play by saying "just wait for ganks and 2v1 them, or get a merc scim to get out of Liss's W, or any other stun for that matter, but heres the thing you FAIL to realize.... If i merc scim the liss's W, it just leaves me to 1 on 5 the team because my whole team died right there, can't counterplay 5 people by myself, also, have you seen tanks who build these items lately? It takes fucking 3 if not 4 people to kill them, they can easily 1vs2, or 1vs3 if they know what they are doing. So again, like i said, you are left with little to no effective counterplay against champs and builds like this.

13 Comments

LappaDanielson2 votes

TLDR- got through about 1/4th of this vommit.

These build still have counter play, yas is only annoying becuase of a bug, no one in high elo besides 1 tricks play quinn, lissandra is also bad and super easy to work around (annie is 10 times worse like tibber combo > liss)

Curious Kat1 votes

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TLDR- got through about 1/4th of this vommit.

These build still have counter play, yas is only annoying becuase of a bug, no one in high elo besides 1 tricks play quinn, lissandra is also bad and super easy to work around (annie is 10 times worse like tibber combo > liss)

Oh yeah, thanks for bringing up annie, because again, another item item 3152 exists that makes her so annoying to deal with her 1 shot nuke.

What counter play? List the counter play to anything that i stated here. GO ahead, i am waiting. Like i said, if you had to pick first, and got counter picked, and have to deal with a stupid build like that, there is no counter play, and 3 man ganks isn't counterplay.

Like you said about annie, i admit she is worse than liss, and again, i did say that those were only SOME of the champs that i listed.... Sooo Your argument is kinda invalid here.

Jorencice1 votes

Wait. In a team game relying on your team to fix your short comings isnt allowed?

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D4NT3D3V1L1 votes

Speechless. Well said.

Hell Week1 votes

i agree with you dude item 3156 item 3053 .... Graves agrees too.. item 3142

Now feed him 2 kills and its GG with those 3.

Curious Kat1 votes

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i agree with you dude item 3156 item 3053 .... Graves agrees too.. item 3142

Now feed him 2 kills and its GG with those 3.

Oh god, i thought the terror was over, don't tell them that build works on graves >.<

Hell Week1 votes

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Oh god, i thought the terror was over, don't tell them that build works on graves >.<

its not that the items alone are broken, put them in synergy with a champion like graves.... by the time the shields go down you were already burst down.

Unstoppable Monk1 votes

Quinn item 3022 has been in the game forever noob. That's because TOP LANE.

Quinn was annoying-should-be-deleted-from-top-lane Gnar before Gnar was released.

Hell Week1 votes

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Quinn item 3022 has been in the game forever noob. That's because TOP LANE.

Quinn was annoying-should-be-deleted-from-top-lane Gnar before Gnar was released.

shes at a good spot rn, she can just R and in 3 seconds kill u in lane without anywhere for u to run. ( depends who youre using of course )

Curious Kat1 votes

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Quinn item 3022 has been in the game forever noob. That's because TOP LANE.

Quinn was annoying-should-be-deleted-from-top-lane Gnar before Gnar was released.

But item 3022 wasn't broken back then, now since it's rework it has become stock to get on every AD champ regardless of them being an assassin, bruiser, fighter, tank etc...

Unstoppable Monk1 votes

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But item 3022 wasn't broken back then, now since it's rework it has become stock to get on every AD champ regardless of them being an assassin, bruiser, fighter, tank etc...

It was abused on ranged. So no, it was broken. Nidalee Quinn

Calabok1 votes

I didnt read any of that but I skimmed it and I really have no idea about your point. Can you just say the point of your rant?

Curious Kat1 votes

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I didnt read any of that but I skimmed it and I really have no idea about your point. Can you just say the point of your rant?

Then there is your issue, i am not going to read it for you, it takes me about 20 seconds to read it, you don't have 20 second? Or perhaps you were that slow reader in class that goes, th-, th-, THE duck wa- walk- walk-e The duck walked...

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