Riot I have a question.

BakedLotion··1 votes·301 views

Why do I have to prove that I'm better than Diamond 5's and Plat 2's just to prove that I belong in plat 5?

And yes I'm salty cause I had 3 zileans in a row on my team in my promos and they all went atleast 0/10. Please disable him from ranked. ty.

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Deep Terror Nami1 votes

You're aware that matchmaking uses MMR to determine groups, not rank right? A D5 might have shit MMR and a P5 can have good MMR and they'll be pretty close.

HOW DO I KEEP ENDING UP IN GAMES WITH PLAYERS WHOSE SKILL LEVEL DIFFERS GREATLY FROM MY OWN? There are a few factors that can make a match feel more imbalanced than it actually is. A teammate may have just had a bad game and performed worse than they usually do. Alternatively, as we’ve seen in LCS, snowballing can still occur despite the two teams being very evenly matched. Snowballing can then lead to the very reasonable perception that a mismatch occurred. Finally, both the Dunning-Kruger and negativity bias also play a role here in shaping players’ impressions of their matchmaking experiences overall.

For the matchmaker itself, the conditions often cited for mismatch are low concurrent users (CCU) or having a very high MMR. But when we take a deeper look at this pool of games, the impact on the quality of matches ends up being very, very low. Instead, the matchmaker is much more likely to increase the queue time as can be seen in the longer queue times seen in the Challenger Tier.

That is not to say that our matchmaker is absolutely perfect. We are also constantly monitoring our matchmaker and making any necessary tweaks to help reduce the chance that players of vastly different skill levels are matched together.

BakedLotion1 votes

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You're aware that matchmaking uses MMR to determine groups, not rank right? A D5 might have shit MMR and a P5 can have good MMR and they'll be pretty close. There are a few factors that can make a match feel more imbalanced than it actually is. A teammate may have just had a bad game and performed worse than they usually do. Alternatively, as we’ve seen in LCS, snowballing can still occur despite the two teams being very evenly matched. Snowballing can then lead to the very reasonable perception that a mismatch occurred. Finally, both the Dunning-Kruger and negativity bias also play a role here in shaping players’ impressions of their matchmaking experiences overall. For the matchmaker itself, the conditions often cited for mismatch are low concurrent users (CCU) or having a very high MMR. But when we take a deeper look at this pool of games, the impact on the quality of matches ends up being very, very low. Instead, the matchmaker is much more likely to increase the queue time as can be seen in the longer queue times seen in the Challenger Tier. That is not to say that our matchmaker is absolutely perfect. We are also constantly monitoring our matchmaker and making any necessary tweaks to help reduce the chance that players of vastly different skill levels are matched together.

If they're a shit D5, they're still D5. Why do I have to prove that I'm better than a player in Diamond 5, who got himself into the rank just to get plat 5? It just proves im better than the player in that rank if i beat him.

Byakuya Kuchiki1 votes

you can be bronze 5 and play against a challenger. your rank literally does nothing. why is this so hard to get through your thick headed skull i swear every god damn person that complains uses rank as a reasoning

BakedLotion1 votes

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you can be bronze 5 and play against a challenger. your rank literally does nothing. why is this so hard to get through your thick headed skull i swear every god damn person that complains uses rank as a reasoning

The problem is why do I have to prove that im better than people who are higher than the rank i'm being promoted to? I know about the MMR and shit. I'm not a dumbass. It's just stupid how you have to vs people who are much higher than the rank you're going to. If the people above the my rank are really crappy, and I'm matched against them, that means I at least belong in their rank if I'm winning against them since they got there for a reason...

Byakuya Kuchiki1 votes

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The problem is why do I have to prove that im better than people who are higher than the rank i'm being promoted to? I know about the MMR and shit. I'm not a dumbass. It's just stupid how you have to vs people who are much higher than the rank you're going to. If the people above the my rank are really crappy, and I'm matched against them, that means I at least belong in their rank if I'm winning against them since they got there for a reason...

because rank doesnt matter thats why. matchmaking doesnt take into consideration anything except both people's mmr stop being mad at riot get mad at the people who have your mmr

SmokedAlmonds1 votes

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The problem is why do I have to prove that im better than people who are higher than the rank i'm being promoted to? I know about the MMR and shit. I'm not a dumbass. It's just stupid how you have to vs people who are much higher than the rank you're going to. If the people above the my rank are really crappy, and I'm matched against them, that means I at least belong in their rank if I'm winning against them since they got there for a reason...

Because their "shit MMR" really means they are no longer that rank.

If a 20 year old beats 100 year old Wayne Gretzky that doesn't make them the best hockey player of all time.

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