Can anyone answer whose fault is this? Me(jungler) or the feeder(top)?

BeatzBoyFTW·1/10/2015, 11:18:27 AM·1 votes·383 views

Lemme list you out some beginnings of the game:

My team vs Enemy team

Top RekSai(feeder) vs RekSai

Mid Teemo vs Kassadin

ADC Draven vs Jinx

Support Janna vs Sona

Jungle Chogath(me) vs Shen

First off, I'm premade with Draven, and also, tbh he is not very skillful in that role even if he claims he is, of course which you can already judge on how he plays base on him taking summoner 7 summoner 12, which means for this match I can pick a champ which I'm not familiar with, even though my Cho'gath turned out great for me.

So when the games going on, turns out mid is doing pretty even. I know right, like wtf. A Kass can have a parry against a Teemo. For bot, ours is obviously losing, like I said about my noobish ADC premade friend of mine, and so Jinx got a little bit fed. So here are my priorities as a jungler main:

  • mid Kassadin must not get fed in any way possible.
  • enemy ADC shouldn't be fed as well, or else, 2x the trouble, especially that AoE dancing Sona ultz.

Then, I got no choice, but to try my best to hold off enemy mid & bot's power into getting stronger by getting more kills. Meanwhile, top seems empty with just herds of tunnels being made here and there, like two kittens playing hide & seek while scratching everything they touch. In my current elo, I thought everyone right now would obviously know what objectives a jungler has to take, but my top seems absent-minded about it.

First off, enemy jungler has been constantly ganked top a lot, cause imo, I'm not too sure how threatening a fed Rek'Sai could be compared to a fed Kass/Jinx. And second, the method they ganked successfully against our Rek'Sai is utter hilarious:

  • Ours was at 50% HP, and enemy Rek'Sai ults from base, producing a large sound as everyone knows. He still stayed and gets killed....
  • Both going all out, and Shen ulted in. Meanwhile, our Rek'Sai still stays behind and gets himself killed. And no, enemy Rek'Sai did not produce a single tunnel before Shen arrives.

So in the end, we had to surrender, as it turns out our synergies do not match a lot, as in I wanted to Q a large group, and Janna, in her most desperate time, ults them off instead. Happened the same with Draven's E. And that constant top ganks resulted with a tankier built Shen, which resulted in him just going through our enemy group & taunts a line yada yada.....

So I wanna know, whose fault is it that made the top lanings get screwed? Is it Reksai who was oblivious in everything a ganking method proceeds? Or me, who gave a lack of ganks for top lane since I had to do my top priority to NOT let Kass/Jinx snowballs/getting kills?

Sorry for bad english or not understanding wtf I just wrote :p

8 Comments

Sozan51/10/2015, 11:39:53 AM6 votes

Where's the "both" option?

It's not like it was only his or only your fault. You could've ganked early to secure your top a lead, while Rek'Sai could've played smarter. Also, calling your top laner "feeder" shows that you are biased (which isn't much of a surprise) and are probably exaggerating about his misplays.

Anyway - try posting the match from your match history (as it's a normal one, and it is not shown unless you give a link) so we can tell you at least a bit more.

Angry Monster1/10/2015, 12:03:43 PM1 votes

Mirror match ups are the most important thing in the world to get ahead in. If one gets ahead its pretty much lane over unless the mirror gets stupid.

You have to put some presure in the top lane. if you never show up for a half hearted gank the enemy top laner never fears your presences.

Sounds like you are used to having save your friend the ADC a lot. Blame him also for forcing you to play in certain patterns.

Your comp really sucked. Temmo cant really help other lanes and no enage, cho no engage, janan no engege.

TLDR a lot of shit happened, saying feeding top lane is just an excuse.

Foxymillion1/10/2015, 4:06:38 PM1 votes

on a side note i suggest you don't play jungle if you cant take criticism as the jungle is blamed for everything even tho its the laners fault for not playing smart as some on who mains jg i have learned this first hand just mute them and try and gank every so often but theres not much you can do since you cant just stay in the lane 24/7

Grimspeake1/10/2015, 8:46:14 PM1 votes

im assuming your reksai was pushed into your tower a lot once they got behind. u shouldve ganked ez kill reksai waveclear 2 hard

Grimspeake1/10/2015, 8:46:44 PM1 votes

gl wanting to gank kass post 6