Congratulations Riot. That Gragas bug you ignored has impacted Worlds a hell lot

BeatzBoyFTW·Oct 17, 2015·21 votes·4,088 views

And by a hell lot, pretty sure Gragas WILL MOST LIKELY NOT be picked ever again in fear of that Q bug returning back again.

What if the Gragas team is losing, and his Q stopped working & made the situation worse? What if the Gragas team is winning, and then being a little bitch she is, starts messing up his luck?

Please always keep these facts in mind before turning your head away from bugs such as this.

EDIT: Great, you disabled Gragas last minute. There goes the Best Jungler Plays there...

21 Comments

Tesla the CatOct 17, 201510 votes

Well how do you know that they aren't trying to fix it?

BeatzBoyFTWOct 17, 20154 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/search?query=gragas++bug&application_id=PEr1qIcT&created_from=&content_type=discussion http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/search?query=gragas+q+bug&content_type=discussion

10000 Gragas bug threads. 0 Riot response.

Remlap1223Oct 17, 20155 votes

They addressed this bug. It's one of those weird one in a million things, much like Shen's ultimate bug or Vi's Q bug that aren't' easily repeatable, because there isn't a clear cause for it to happen (unlike GP's ultimate which taunted minions every time it landed on an area).

How can they fix a really rare bug that has no clear cause? That's like asking someone to find and cure cancer with nothing more than a Fisher-Price stethoscope.

DrakylonOct 17, 20154 votes

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They addressed this bug. It's one of those weird one in a million things, much like Shen's ultimate bug or Vi's Q bug that aren't' easily repeatable, because there isn't a clear cause for it to happen (unlike GP's ultimate which taunted minions every time it landed on an area).

How can they fix a really rare bug that has no clear cause? That's like asking someone to find and cure cancer with nothing more than a Fisher-Price stethoscope.

Pretty sure the cause is that if you cast Q while holding the hotkey down (which is supposed to pop the barrel instantly when it gets to its destination), but die before the projectile pops, the game thinks it's still on the field (despite despawning the projectile). This means the game thinks the barrel still hasn't reached its destination, and won't let you cast Q until it does (which is never). It occurs with other champions with the same type of ability, i.e. Lux.

YCitizenSnipsYOct 17, 20151 votes

Wouldn't consider that bug "one in a a million" if it happened during the worlds tournament. There is a reason that Shen was disabled last year, it probably happens far more frequently than Riot would like to admit.

Remlap1223Oct 18, 20151 votes

Just because it's extremely unlikely to win the lottery and get struck by lightning at the same time doesn't mean it's never happened before. I have yet to encounter this bug whilst binge playing Gragas lately. I've encountered the Vi Q bug more than once, and Shen's ult bug once. Graggy's Q bug? Zero times. So it's obviously not that frequently occurring.

YCitizenSnipsYOct 18, 20151 votes

Like I said Shen had a similar bug that was "one in a million" and he still had to be disabled for it and it still happened in competitive play when he was made available. Its no coincidence this bug with Gragas impacted worlds because its not "one in a million." He should have been disabled just like Shen was and the bug should have been worked out. The Gragas bug is months old its not something that was just discovered in the EDG vs FNC series.

Remlap1223Oct 18, 20151 votes

That Shen bug has been around since his existence if I'm not mistaken. So we should just bar Gragas from competitive play for five years until Riot finds what actually is causing the bug?

Slamurai JackOct 17, 20153 votes

And look, the picked him again in the remake. Give it a rest. Never picked again my ass. You guys are the Michael Bay of internet forums; You blow everything way out of proportion.

BeatzBoyFTWOct 20, 20151 votes

And now he is actually disabled for the rest of Worlds.

Your next point?

Slamurai JackOct 20, 20151 votes

How was I supposed to know that Riot was going to do the sensible thing?

BeatzBoyFTWOct 20, 20151 votes

http://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/jump-out-of-a-plane-for-100000-dollars-what-if-the-plane-was-on-the-ground.jpg

Learn this before you blew your Michael Bay crap(mainly just the last line).

Slamurai JackOct 20, 20151 votes

At the time, what I said was 100% correct. Fnatic went and picked Gragas again right after the game ending bug and everything looked to be all well and good, but Riot declared the day after that the bug was much more likely to reoccur than they initially thought and decided to just disable Gragas. At the time, it was an overreaction by you given the info you had. New information coming to light doesn't change the quality of the initial decision 1 bit.

Heart Of WujuOct 17, 20151 votes

What was the bug 0.o

DrCyanideOct 17, 20157 votes

I've seen videos of it. Basically he throws out his Q, it does it's thing, but the HUD thinks it's still on the field after it's gone. You can't use the ability for the rest of the game.

OverpoweredSoapOct 17, 20151 votes

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I've seen videos of it. Basically he throws out his Q, it does it's thing, but the HUD thinks it's still on the field after it's gone. You can't use the ability for the rest of the game.

Lux has the same problem with her E, I don't know why Riot hasn't said anything about it. (At least from what I have seen.)

There's been numerous reports about it.

Heart Of WujuOct 17, 20151 votes

Oh wow, so that happened in worlds recently?

Jason the otherOct 17, 20151 votes

Yep watched it live but i just dont get why its so hard to fix just remove the invisable q and then everythings fixed Right??

AJStarhikerOct 17, 20151 votes

Yeah, they reset the game. Fanatic still repicked Gragas, though.

idokiOct 17, 20151 votes

/u/RiotExgeniar on the subreddit 2 months ago

Please take this as an acknowledgement of the bug from Riot. I've been trying to track this down for MONTHS. And, yes, I've read all the reports of this. The problem is, when a bug is reported with no actionable leads or reproduction steps, it's difficult to fix the issue. Not having an understanding of what causes this to happen, we can't safely fix the bug and we could end up breaking the ability more. League of a Legends is a widely played game, and we see 'one in a million' edge cases (like this bug) all the time, and it drives me crazy. If the community can come up with reliable reproduction steps to a major bug like this, I Garen-tee that the bug would be fixed within a patch or two. In terms of work around, I am currently working on an Azir refractor, so things are super busy. However, I have plans to look into this bug and find a way to hopefully avoid the issue the spell currently. (No eta) tl;dr: Here is your acknowledgement. This is a one-in-a-million bug; We don't have a reliable reproduction step, nor the understanding of the different variables involved, so we can't reliably know we fixed the issue when we attempt a fix.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/3g4646/gragas_has_a_champion_breaking_bug_that_is_being/

Honestly, Boards is filled with so many Riot haters I'm surprised they keep playing the game.

BTW, Gragas was picked again right after the remake :) And if you're going to say "why didn't Riot disable him?" that's because Gragas was already played 24 games already in Worlds without any issues, so Riot made the call not to disable him.