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dear boards we do NOT = the entire lol community

arc95··166 votes·5,110 views

ok all the time here i see that...omg i hate this item or this champ is broke or i hate this system and it will have 100+ upvotes and at the absolute highest end they might get 1k...and they say "so Riot what are you going to do the community has spoken" <- actual quote from a thread with maybe 300 upvotes

so now... league had 60 million+ monthly players....and what something like 7 million+ playing concurrently guess what 1k upvotes is literally nothing compared to the grand scheme of league ya its a good sample of opinions but by NO mean is it the opinion of the lol community it may be the opinion of the boards community but not lol

and something like 600 upvotes is around 0.001% of the player base

and dont forget the whole vocal minority thing , many times when you have the community hates this its just the vocal minority

Edit: guys when you take a percentage you have to multiply by 100 after dividing >.<

102 Comments

Mama Soraka30 votes

Oh wow, nobody has come in here and said "Riot lies about the numbers" yet? That's what they say every time I mention the number of players in this game. Well, just give it a minute, you'll get plenty of that.

TheRealBaz17 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mauve Thunder,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=iExO98iQ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-04-09T17:19:21.904+0000)

Oh wow, nobody has come in here and said "Riot lies about the numbers" yet? That's what they say every time I mention the number of players in this game. Well, just give it a minute, you'll get plenty of that.

riot lies about the numbers

arc9519 votes

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riot lies about the numbers

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn] >.<

arc9513 votes

[{quoted}](name=Mauve Thunder,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=iExO98iQ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-04-09T17:19:21.904+0000)

Oh wow, nobody has come in here and said "Riot lies about the numbers" yet? That's what they say every time I mention the number of players in this game. Well, just give it a minute, you'll get plenty of that.

i cant believe people try argue numbers xD

its the largest game in the world it's common sense that 1k is a drop in the pan compared to the actual amount of players [slayer-jinx-wink]

Spacesuit Spiff1 votes

Cant wait to see someone claim they lie by several orders of magnitude

Whut Thuh 3 votes

i know for a fact that only 1224 peopl play this game! i have done all the research! riot employees plus lcs players plus 1 for every broken champion and plus one more for every lie riot told us about s6 equals 1224! it all leads up to this number! ILLUMINATIIII

Renascent22 votes

It's always a pain to try to talk sense into the people that complain about a certain topic, because that's half their incentive to go on the boards: To complain about changes they personally don't like.

Nowadays I just like to peruse posts by more friendly people like Laughing Fish and Malicious Metal.

arc956 votes

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It's always a pain to try to talk sense into the people that complain about a certain topic, because that's half their incentive to go on the boards: To complain about changes they personally don't like.

Nowadays I just like to peruse posts by more friendly people like Laughing Fish and Malicious Metal.

Memes&Games is by far the best thread [slayer-jinx-catface]

HAIL WHYDRA12 votes

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To be honest, if RIOT did what people want LeBlanc would only be able to kill minions with her combo, Urgot would be the only viable AD Carry, mages like Brand would have a 75% winrate, Malphite's passive would deal damage to himself, Zed would have a 60 sec CD shuriken, Yasuo would be just a minion with 20% winrate and a shield that only blocks Zed's shurikens, Riven would have a resource and her Q would consume 95% of it, mages would regenerate 10% of their mana each second and Taric would be the only viable support.

I don't often agree with RIOT, but their decisions are far better than 99% of the common suggestions in this board.

Spacesuit Spiff13 votes

Not to mention the boards self-select because the people who are mature enough to not panic over every minor change are just playing the game and enjoying it.

Billy VoHagen11 votes

Dude, you can't reason with these boards.

World Ender6 votes

Amen brother.

Solari Fortune14 votes

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Leetri10 votes

600 upvotes is actually 0.00001% of the player base, you missed two zeroes. :P I don't think I've ever seen a League post get even remotely close to 1%, not even on Reddit. It's such a massively vocal minuscule minority it's hard to even put it in perspective.

arc954 votes

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600 upvotes is actually 0.00001% of the player base, you missed two zeroes. :P I don't think I've ever seen a League post get even remotely close to 1%, not even on Reddit. It's such a massively vocal minuscule minority it's hard to even put it in perspective.

multiply by 100 for the percentage :P

but now i'm doubting myself >.<

Wimbledofy2 votes

you were correct, i double checked it. (600/60,000,000) x 100 = .0001%

t0ad56 votes

You're right. However, we are the ppl providing feedback that is going ignored.

ModWulf Helhammer33 votes

Because most of the time that feedback is absolutely horrible

UrPalAl17 votes

This is true.

(Buff juggernauts - Boards 2015) (Buff Veigar - Boards 2015) (Buff Lux - Boards 2016)

And the list goes on...

ImmortalBloodCY5 votes

Agreed, actual feedback that help are pretty rare to find or see.

Billy VoHagen6 votes

This. So much fucking this.

"NERF SEJUANI!!!" "FIZZ IS GETTING GUTTED." "SKARNER SUCKS DICK EVEN THOUGH NONE OF US HAVE PLAYED HIM, BUFF HIM RIOT. AND MORDE TOO."

Riot does what they say. Instant backlash.

That's why these boards are the worst place to get balance ideas from.

dEAdbUs2 votes

Skarner buff was asked on PBE boards. PBE boards != NA boards.

SociopathFriend4 votes

In Lux's defense the initial "buff Lux" spread was back when her E was inferior to alll other wave-clearing spells of the long-range champions. Cost more, did less, had a longer cooldown, less range, and so on- that was plenty fair and needed imo.

UrPalAl2 votes

True, but I think it was gated because of how oppressive it was.

Whut Thuh 12 votes

lets be real if the boards had their way all the time zed would be a floating vegetbal that throws pebbles on a 3 imnute cd. urgot would have a lux laser for his q and yorick would be reworked 300 times from now until 2017

powerbats6 votes

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lets be real if the boards had their way all the time zed would be a floating vegetbal that throws pebbles on a 3 imnute cd. urgot would have a lux laser for his q and yorick would be reworked 300 times from now until 2017

Don't forget that Lee Sin would be nerfed right up until all the Lee Sin mains came to same boards and did a qq ragefest, oh wait they did that before. If they listened to the daily reminder people everyone champ would be buffed into the stratosphere but only for them and everyone else's champ would be nerfed into oblivion.

CeexSett1 votes

Don't forget that Sion would have no cooldown on his shield, that would deal 90%max hp in True Damage. Yi, would be removed from the game or turned into a raptor and galio would be the League mascot, with 101% play rate.

bill842 votes

You forget that the boards hates %maxhp true damage so that they would never want this to happen to SIon

Akeydel5 votes

The main reason for that is that (aside from the incredibly rare gratitude posts) all of the feedback is negative. You can get a sense of what some people DONT like, but its hard to represent people who are content with the current system. You're just not going to go onto the boards to say "THIS IS OK!" How many posts have you seen saying: "nerf/buff X champion! RITO PLS" vs "X CHAMPION IS SO BALANCED WOW!" ?

Silver Fluffenbu6 votes

I assume the people who are content are the ones who downvote the posts that state x champion needs whatever because downvotes are a quick way to disagree.

Jasiwel2 votes

Sadly, downvotes are not a remotely decent way to disagree with someone. Their point is to push down content that does not contribute, not to disagree with someone. It'd be literally no different than someone's reply being "I disagree" and never explaining why.

Guy Fox Teemo5 votes

Actually League has 67+ Million monthly players and around 12+ Million concurrently and 24+ Million a day.

8^) (All of those are individuals ;D)

BeMyFriendPlease5 votes

I can confirm there is that many people ingame

I counted them all*[slayer-jinx-catface]*

612X0dbmDS5 votes

Who cares if we are the vocal minority? We are the voice of the community because we care enough to post and give feedback.

Sure the others may play the game but they could just like that leve the game because it doesn't mean that much to them.

Shiroi Kitsune6 votes

The issue is that not only are the boards the vocal minority, but they are the vocal minority where only complaint threads against Riot are tolerated. Most of the time, if someone says something positive about Riot and what they are doing, they get down-voted into oblivion by all the people just here to complain. This causes people on the other side of the coin just to leave the boards because they know their opinion won't be heard. Because of this, the boards are far from the best place for Riot to get feedback on the game state, as only one side is represented.

Lauchmelder10 votes

You dislike U.R.F because it's overrated and not really fun? Get downvoted to oblivion. You defend DynamicQ because it's literally no problem in low elo? How dare you?

The "vocal minority" actually sucks because the vocal minorities majority just wants to complain about x item and y champion. (There are a few exceptions here and there)

RG Velean1 votes

Y champion being MasterYi

Embertine2 votes

This has actually happened to me when I said Riot did a actually good buff on Shyvana, and people complained and downvoted me going on about her winrates from BEFORE the buff.

Some people are just unsatisfied no matter what.

Zantumall4 votes

People post threads to complain, not to praise. This makes sense (there's not a lot to discuss in a thread about how great Dynamic Queue is, for instance), but it means the boards will always give more visibility to criticism. The community looks like it's upset because everyone who goes out of their way to express an opinion is being critical. People need to keep in mind that just because the boards look negative doesn't mean the community at large hates the game. The boards looked exactly the same in previous seasons.

Jet Sett3 votes

So what do players do to give feedback? Just file an email to Riot and get nothing back? Even if the boards is a minuscule fraction of the whole community some people need a place to discuss things. Although I completely agree with the sentiment that people who say how Rito is ignoring the community is pretty foolish, but unless they're more surveys this place seems to have the most player feedback. Perhaps there is a way to broaden forms of communication between the players and Riot?

Billy VoHagen5 votes

This is the place to get feedback. But so many people get self righteous about their idea because they're thread got 100 upvotes.

Jet Sett3 votes

Agreed, feedback is good, trying to throw your weight around when your as heavy as Veigar, not so much.

Supreme Senpai693 votes

Veigar Is that a short joke!?

This Is Your Dad3 votes

I think the community wants a League of Legends story quest game like Skyrim except with more Draven. That seems doable. If Riot can't even do that they need to give us unlimited RP as compensation. The community has spoken.

ok ill fed then2 votes

I'm sure that despite what a lot of people think, Riot employees read almost all threads. When I come across threads like these I just imagine a Rioter throwing his hands up and just yelling, "fking thank you". Lmao. http://i.imgur.com/0e8yZRw.gif

Gregor Gysi2 votes

Also Riot doesn't really care too much about the boards, Reddit is way more important as a platform.

TNHA Baritone1 votes

I understand this but sometimes we ask for things that don't require the whole population to agree on. If a good amount of people are asking for Solo Queue to be an available option, there is no saying "Well not enough people want this and we don't want to effect those who don't want solo queue" because if you don't want x, there would be y (vice versa).

Also certain requests (especially balance-wise) are too blatant and understandable to ignore and say "not enough people vote on this"

I hate my ADC1 votes

When someone doesn't like a change, what are the chances for that person to go straight to the boards to voice their opinion about it? People who never goes to the boards suddenly rushed to them to complain about dynamic queue and the lack of a solo queue. The boards is one of the first place people will go to complain about something because that's the most obvious way to express their discontentment.

A couple hundreds of people agreeing on something doesn't make it right. Why would those who think Dynamic Queue is fine come to the boards to voice their opinion? They aren't discontent so they have nothing to do here.

The boards are a terrible place to make requests or voice your opinion. It is skewed and the only way to get upvotes is to agree with the angry mob or make a post that is simply too good to not agree on.

TNHA Baritone2 votes

I 100% Agree with you.

But if those who want solo queue are the only ones in discontentment, why can't Riot release a Solo Queue for those people. I mean if it took up system resources then I could see why.

The boards are a terrible place to make requests or voice your opinion. It is skewed and the only way to get upvotes is to agree with the angry mob or make a post that is simply too good to not agree on.

Couldn't agree more.

I hate my ADC3 votes

Well, if I dare explain why I believe Riot can't simply release Solo Queue, I'd get downvoted to hell and back like every time I tried to make such a post. But well... here I go...

There is two side to the coin. On one side, you have the problems it would help fixing. On the other side, the problems it would add or worsen. (Omg! How dare I say that adding Solo Queue will create problems! +40 downvotes inc) Riot can't simply make the change because they could end up shooting themselves in the foot by doing it. So instead, they keep it on the back burner while they try to find a solution that would solve the issues a Solo Queue could solve without the need of a Solo Queue.

One change they made, which was a really good one, was that Diamond and up could only queue with people 2 ranks below instead of the entire division. No more Diamond 1 with Plat 5. This is a change that could potentially be seen at lower division, but it may become too restrictive at the same time. For example, I can't play with my Diamond 5 friend in ranked until I reach Plat 2 (I'm Plat 4 right now).

In short, replacing problems with new ones doesn't solve anything, it just means they have to scrap every ideas they had to try to solve the new problems. If they can't find any solutions to the problems a Solo Queue would fix, maybe then they will add Solo Queue and try to fix the new problems instead.

And in any case, as much as I want to agree that Solo Queue would be nice, I simply can't. For the reason mentioned above and really... How can I? People are complaining that they lose because of Dynamic queue when myself, I get a S+ with Nami (And let me tell ya, S+ with Nami is absolutely not easy to get) as a solo queue in a game with 4 man premades on both sides... It's not like as a solo queuer I was powerless to win because there are premades in the game... in fact, I feel like I have a much greater impact in those games because l'm the one who will make or break my team in the end. Maybe it's because I don't play with the mentality that premades are going to ruin the game for me? So yeah. I can't agree with solo queue.

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