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I miss the old Taric :( I really lost my favorite Champion in this game the day he was reworked

Raoul··13 votes·1,395 views

A little bit of music to go with it

From time to time I still look at him and remember what he was and where he is now.

My shining Paladin, the first Champion I ever played and the first I reached Mastery 5 on... now he is a walking Ultimate...

Taric was by no means perfect, and the Visual Update is AWESOME, but honestly... I barely touched him since the rework. I just dont like Champions who are literally only picked because the Ultimate is broken and thats it...

What I miss most about him is being that armor shredder, that empowered your whole team. Old Taric? When you stuned the enemy target, you went in, you smashed your W and crushed their armor to bits, the you pressed R and you became that shining beacon of power, that made all of your allied more powerful... And if you ever had Problems, you had a very nice heal on your kit, that could either heal you and a teammate fro a good amount or yourself for an awesome amount...

Sure, his stun was singel target, sure he was not exiting to watch, but hell, he was the Paladin I loved to Main.

And yeah, I know "Taric" is here to stay, nothing will change that. But he just doesnt feel like Taric any more. Not one bit. They kept nothing of him alive when they reworked him, everything was changed. His whole core aspect was changed.

Here is to you old Pal, rest in peace. The Guy who kiled you on Mount Targon and came back taking your name will never be able to replace you in my heart, no matter how handsome he is...

http://i.imgur.com/q1a7WfT.gif

32 Comments

Fondling Gems8 votes

Whoa whoa whoa, hold the phone.

When you stuned the enemy target, you went in, you smashed your W and crushed their armor to bits, the you pressed R and you became that shining beacon of power, that made all of your allied more powerful...

Don't be silly, the proper method was stun > Ult > W. Better to get that AD/AP boost as soon as possible. I will assume you were weaving auto attacks in and not completely triggering me!

Ahem. Sorry about the outburst. Anyways I honestly miss him to, these days I refer to myself as a Taric enthusiast rather than a Taric main. I still play him fairly frequently and I love the champion but he isn't something I can just play game after game like I used to.

RIP old Taric, 4 of my macros will continue to be reserved for you.

Raoul1 votes

Yes, you are totaly right. And you always hit people with Taric, you have to get that sweet passive procs out.

Maybe I should try to give the new Taric another try...

By the way, whats up with your truly outrageous name color?

Fondling Gems1 votes

That and my icon mark me as a Warden, one of the new community volunteer moderators on the boards. There are about 20 of us now. Basically we deal with reports and whatnot to delete, lock, and otherwise deal with threads that break the rules.

I am one of the Roaming wardens who deals with a number of the smaller boards sections such as misc, esports, etc. Compared to Wardens who just patrol one of the larger boards like Memes & Games or Gameplay. I am also lucky enough to be joined by Explorer Ezreal, another roaming Warden.

Now I just need to find someplace with a role called enchanter so that I can be a warden/enchanter hybrid who has a strong interest in Ezreal ;P One of these days I shall truly become Taric.

Raoul1 votes

Thats cool :) Thanks for helping to keep the boards clean :)

TerribleTheHero4 votes

I actually started to main old Taric right before they announced they were going through with his rework, so I can appreciate what there was in his old empowerment-style kit a little more than people who didn't experience it, but probably not as much as someone like you who seemed very devoted to him.

Albeit I think Riot was right to update the extremely simple "point and click" style of play to match their evolving game, I miss the old Taric and his silly pizza-feet. The new R is underwhelming to say the least, and although I still play Taric a decent amount, especially into enemy teams filled with engage champions, I feel like that's the only environment when he really, hahah, shines.

SanKakU1 votes

I played him plenty but I think that honestly the change for him is for the best. The best reason I can come up with is that he isn't completely useless once his nearby ADC dies on him. He was amazing, perhaps too amazing with an ADC at his side. Now he can actually slaughter ADCs on his own without any help from someone else, and he still makes a solid support besides that. He's definitely in a better place, but I can see why people would prefer the old Taric. I would love if champions like him, especially someone like Galio or now the old Sejuani were still in the game as alternate versions for people to play, even if they had to be permanently banned from ranked play.

TerribleTheHero1 votes

He is in a better place play-wise, I agree.

Maybe one day they could do an event with the reworked champions like them, hahah.

Ràinbow4 votes

I completely know how you feel.

Old Fiora was my pride and joy. The first 6300 champ I bought, the first champ I owned every skin for, the first champ I got mastery 5 with and the only champ that I considered my main. I didn't care that she was a "no skill/noob champ" bc she's what I found fun. The day her rework hit the PBE was the day I knew I only had 2 more weeks with this champ I came to love. I did, however, give it a chance, but the champ I could play hours on end and not get tired was no longer there. To me, this new Fiora is a completely different person. She may have the same name, same title (and even that they wanted to change at one point..) sound the same, may even look the same (debatable) but she **isn't **the same. Not to me, at least.

Granted she did need changes, but this new kit will never appeal to me the way her old one did. Just one more time, I would love to play her as I knew her.

PhoenixOfHeaven3 votes

His ult kit was rather basic though.. I very much prefer him how he is now, visually, kit wise, Everything. he isn't popular, but he is in a good spot all around. He also kept the mood of his original kit, big time. I think he's one of the more satisfying reworks to exist today. What did the original Taric have that the new one dosnt, aside from pizza feet?

Edit- A little more on that. 'Taric lost his power' What power? he's a support/tank, he dosnt need it. Any power he lost was likely for good reason. Plus, even his kit now is viable solo lane (I play him majorly top myself) He has a CC, heal, shield, what does he have now that he didn't before? I'm the exact opposite of the situation. I've never loved a rework more, next to the latest Ryze one. He kept most characteristics to his original character, along with an improved appearance, an actual character, more lines, and much more. Don't see a reason how it could be considered a bad one...

Edit2- "I barely touched him since the rework." Play him again some more, then see what ya think. My main got a minor rework a while back, and it terrified me. Played them, and it just wasn't the same. Then I decided to give it a second try, and realized I overreacted, big time. Sometimes ya just gotta take the time to get used to it. It's a change alright, but you don't know if it's a positive or a negative one until ya take a chance.

Big Lincoln2 votes

armor and offensive auras, gems that weren't stupid and floating over him

no dumb gimmick stolen directly from lulu

Raoul6 votes

Well, for once, his Q was actually a strong healing spell. It either healed you and another one, or it healed you for ALOT of HP. It really felt like you were able to actually protect your mates. His old heal was 220 or 308 on a 14 seconds cooldown. His new heal is 180 on a 45 second cooldown -.- Let me put that in relation: Even if you hit 3 targets every time you cast your fully stacked heal, you cant reach the effectiveness of the old one.

That was also the theme of his old W. His armor Aura was great. Everyone around you gained 12% of your bonus armor. Sure thats not 20% on one target like today, but it was there for everyone around you. You being there protected your team. And then of course you could smash the enemys armor, increasing your ADCs damage to everyone. That aspect for example is totaly gone. His Stun was boring and straight forward, I accept that. Like I said, he wasnt perfect. And then his old Ultimate. Oh How much I loved that spell. Again, it made everyone around you stronger. Your AD Allies got bonus AD; your AP Allies got Bonus Ap. And as well his W and R came with a nice damage burst around him.

What does he do now? He stuns and he has his Ult. His new W is only to make better stun plays, and lets be honest, his Q is only used to trigger his passive...

PhoenixOfHeaven1 votes

The heal was a bit of a nerf, I wont lie. I like the idea of the charges it has now, but even at 3, it isn't that rewarding.

I think his ult is just as useful as it's original, the difference being a need for a bit of coordination. I've pulled off some insanely satisfying ults with him, and being able to use the whole W-E thing to help out an ally is awesome. It aint a damage or armor boost, but it's a super long range cc, that literally plays in the ADC's favor.

Yep, the stun and ult are the most noteworthy parts of his kit these days, but his W is still awesome, even without the other spell-conections. It also makes it, even if very litte, a massive range boost to his Q. His passive is certainly pretty cool, and plays well with the whole scaleing mechanic.

I could see original Taric being missed, but I don't think his rework was that far into the wrong direction... Tons of plusses, tons of downsides. Either way though, just give him another try. Play like 2-3 matches with him, and see if things change for ya.

Big Lincoln2 votes

i feel the same way, this VGU was a tragedy, both in character and in kit

he's so much less charming now

OurLestrade2 votes

Honestly, if they swapped his ult for something more satisfying I'd be 100% pleased with his rework. I was actually pretty impressed with how they preserved the mix of the corny fabulous bloke that most people like and a more serious character that some like me prefer, and I prefer the smoother new variant on his passive. His ult is what ruins him. It CAN be powerful yes, but 90% of the time it can't be exploited to its full potential and it leaves you feeling absolutely terrible.

Ults are meant to be the big wow moment, and with his it usually ends up being completely wasted with either the fight ending before it can be used or the person you're trying to protect dying before it activates. I've genuinely had 20 minute games where I've never actually ulted. I want his old ult back please, maybe a mega variant of Sona's Q or something to make it more visible.

Raoul3 votes

Yeah, I mean, if they want to keep the stun as it is, ok, I know how much RIOT hates point an click hard CC, but they could at least revert the rest of the abilities.

The new Q is terrible, its alot of times better to keep 4 points unspend instead of actually skilling this mana grave... His new W is literally only there so he can hit his stun on more targets or his Ultimate hits better... And you already said everything about the Ultimate that has to be said.

SanKakU1 votes

The new Q isn't supposed to be used for healing. You just hit it to enable your passive. Actually, even with that being the case, it's more than a little bit viable to grab the new healing items on him(they increase shielding too)...but you still shouldn't skimp on resistances.

If you want to heal a lot you can play Kayle or Soraka. Taric's primarily a tank before AND after the rework. He's actually kind of a triple class champion after the rework. Tank, Fighter, and Support. I think a lot of the older champions are getting reworked into triple class champions when they used to be double class champions.

RizHippoKhan2 votes

i only want his ult to turn him into a juggernaut (or atleast gave a huge combat buff to taric) kinda like the summoners showdown II animation ;-;

Raoul1 votes

You mean that one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGy5ZJ8cSUE

Yeah that was awesome^^

RizHippoKhan1 votes

ye and now imma watch it again ;-;

Blakiepug2 votes

I feel really bad for you and other mains of reworked champions. After the Galio rework, I truly realized how damaging these changes can be to some members of the community. It scares me of the day Riot comes after one of my favorite champions like Teemo and just completely terrorizes his kit. The reworks lately have failed to maintain the fun in a champion's kit, one of the most important aspects that keeps a player coming back to the champion over and over again. I honestly hope that Riot takes a chill pill with how many reworks they've been throwing at us lately and focuses on other parts of the game like new champions and events that add fun to the game without hurting a portion of the playerbase.

Raoul2 votes

Well, some reworks really improved the champ, because they kept his being and oimroved it. For example the WW rework really just improved on what was already there. He still has everything he had before and more, and he feels even more like a hunter.

Blakiepug2 votes

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Well, some reworks really improved the champ, because they kept his being and oimroved it. For example the WW rework really just improved on what was already there. He still has everything he had before and more, and he feels even more like a hunter.

That's true, though I don't know how the Warwick mains feel about it, it seems to me like Warwick was the best received rework by far. How many reworks have truly improved a champ for the better though? In my opinion, the bad outweighs the good here, but that's just me.

Dextix LT2 votes

Disagree. I played Taric before the rework too. And he is now better than ever.

He is not a stand still and give everyone stats boring ass character anymore. Now he is a REAL champion. A champion that can save and protect the entire teams, and especially their adc.

Taric is picked for more than his ultimate and all of his old skills were shite. They are better now and they are focused on the AOE aspect of them. Yes, the new heal will be shitier if you heal only 2 targets, but if you heal 3, that is amazing already. Same with the ultimate.

He feels more like taric than the old taric. Like i said before, old taric was simply a walking stat stick, now he is an actual champion instead of "Press r to give allies more damage, stand near them with w for more armor".

Take your rose tinted glasses off, thanks.

Raoul5 votes

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meowwow71 votes

if you dislike the new taric then there is one thing i got to tell you about him w someone with mobility or a gap closer and when they get in the enemy's face e from them

Big Lincoln2 votes

that doesn't make him even a little bit more enjoyable

meowwow71 votes

well for me that's how i cope with it because it gave me satisfaction for when i somehow managed to stun the backline with the tip of his e

Raoul3 votes

Its not really about his power. He is strong, really strong, but nearly all his power is put into his Ultimate. Then a bit in his stun and the other two abilities are just sad. The power budget of old Taric was equally shared between all of his skills. And his personality is also gone, no more gem talk...

But most of all, Taric was the first character I played back in Beta, I had my first Pentakill with him, my most remembered Baron Steal... With him missing, I feel like a part of the game i enjoyed is just... gone :(

SanKakU1 votes

I'm okay with new Taric. Might be the safest pick possible as a support for me at the moment. Latest round or 2 of itemization changes haven't affected him negatively.

I have to admit though, it took me a lot longer to get used to new Taric compared to the new Rammus.

Xemeron1 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5-xHdyErq4

Refer A Friend 11 votes

I started to main Taric 3 months or so before the rework. He was the most fun I've had in top lane at the time. No words can describe my joy when I managed to win a duel against so many early engage top laners. I would give so much to have that back again!

Death by Glamour1 votes

Gems, gems are truly truly outrageous

I didn't used to think so but this was one of the few reworks that riot did really well with.

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