Hexdrinker build Path Idea

DragonPoet·Feb 20, 2014·4 votes·1,104 views

So I had a thought a while back with a couple friends about Hexdrinker and Maw of Malmortius, mainly the Lifeline passive (the shield). As a player who enjoys mainly Akali and the idea of Hybrid Champions (Twisted Fate back in the day comes to mind) I was thinking what if there was a Hexdrinker item for those characters. Just my idea:

+ + = Runekeepers Edgeless (I just threw something together for the name)

+25 Damage +50 Ability Power +25 Magic Resist

UNIQUE Passive - Lifeline: Upon taking magic damage that would reduce Health below 30%, grants a shield that absorbs 350 magic damage for 5 seconds (90 second cooldown). UNIQUE Passive - Runekeepers Edge: Upon reaching below 30% health, gain +15 Attack Damage and +20 Ability Power until out of combat.

Kind of thinking the idea would be a slight boost in damage at the same time as receiving the Lifeline shield (although I haven't put too much thought into this yet about overall results). But in a general idea, I think there needs to be more chances for Hybrid characters: -Twisted Fate -Akali -Katarina -Jax -Evelynn -Kayle -Skarner -Poppy

I would even go so far that if this type of item existed, it could work on even Diana, Shyvanna, and Teemo. The whole thought though is, "what would it be like to have a Hexdrinker item for AP or Hybrid (AD/AP) characters?"

What do you think of this idea or what idea would you consider instead? Or maybe even what item feels lacking due to build recipe or what it can only build in to (Phage needs another build path I think but to what?).

7 Comments

LetlerFeb 20, 20141 votes

I have a few questions for this idea. What is the benefit of a below % health ad and ap boost? Is the item mostly meant for team fights or defensively? How long does the shield/steroid last?

There are items that fulfill similar roles. However, Riots stance on hybrid items seems to be that they can be very dangerous and therefore limited. Also the some of the champions you mentioned are quite durable either in their natural abilities or they favor life/spell leach.

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Guinsoo's Rage blade has a similar effect, low life = increased spell/life steal but it is hardly used.

Are the champions you have this item in mind for particularly vulnerable to magic damage?

DragonPoetFeb 20, 20141 votes

To give my point of view, I main Akali and she is definitely susceptible to high burst damage (especially in mid lane). If she doesn't get ahead and just goes even but few CS, tackling some burst mages can be difficult. I did reference the second Passive off of the Guinsoo's Rage Blade. I like the idea of Exhaust like ability on the item you suggested but at the same time I'm thinking, "Wouldn't I just take Exhaust which is multipurpose for AP and AD?" I've also consider this as an option for an AP Bruiser style champion (similar to Diana although I play her as an Assassin mostly). Gives a bit of defense and she does auto-attack quite a bit so some extra AD would be good on her even if she builds AP heavy. Twisted Fate, Katarina, and Akali can be relatively susceptible to strong burst (especially TF) from opposing mid laners.

Maybe think of AP Champions that are also reliant on AA: Akali Diana Fizz Jax Nidalee Mordekaiser Skarner Teemo TwistedFate Ziggs

Now I know some of the champions above have good enough CD or high enough burst but they do usually Auto Attack more than some mages, I think (plus I'm out of practice on most of these guys so I can be mistaken).

LetlerFeb 20, 20141 votes

I guess having an AP specific exhaust that also "steals" some magic resist would allow these champions to take smite or ignite and flash. I think most of the champions listed would be better off taking something other than exhaust. If burst is an issue than the AP exhaust active on the item would work well.

I could imagine your original concept on someone like Poppy who would be insane with it considering she specializes in being almost dead and yet somehow unkillable.

I do agree with JackAqua that the item needs a little more... something. Currently it feels like mid-tier item that you might just want to skip because there are better late-game items that fulfill similar functions. Like a combo of Maw and Gunblade.

You need to somehow differentiate the item. Make people think, oh crap I am up against Ahri I should get this item. Or, I'm in the jungle and need to make sure I survive my gank attempts at mid, I should get that item.

LetlerFeb 20, 20141 votes

What if we took your same recipe, with the same stats but the ability of the item was less passive? What if me made it like a ability power specific exhaust active?

Something like: Unique Active - Spellthirst (targeted) - Reduces the magic damage an enemy deals by 20% and grants you an additional 30 magic resist for 3 seconds.

DragonPoetFeb 26, 20141 votes

Maybe! I'm definitely open to ideas that can be thought of. I don't have internet at my place right now so I haven't been updating but will later today. Woohoo! I definitely want to see what can be theory crafted here.

JackAquaFeb 20, 20141 votes

I like the base idea -> a Hexdrinker for hybrids. But I personally wouldn't buy this in-game. It has nothing 'unique' in it.
If I want a Spellshield I'll get Maw or Banshee's, if I want to get stronger the weaker I am, I get Guisnoo's or again Maw, if I want a good hybrid-damage item I get Trinity or Guisnoos's or Hextech-Gunblade.
What is it this item gives me, that's better than other items ? What makes it unique ?
I'd suggest the shield scaling with AP, or (sorry) a whole different second passive, because I don't like yours ... sorry.
But it's basically a weaker Guisnoo's.
But I do like the concept !

DragonPoetFeb 26, 20141 votes

That is the thing though, for building a Hybrid Character, you have to buy Gunblade, Trinity Force (or Lich Bane if you're AP heavy), or Rageblade (seriously though, how common is this one really?)

Now with the current Jax build, you get Trinity Force, Blade of the Ruin King, then build defensive items, and can top it off with Hextech Gunblade.

Akali: Hextech Gunblade, Lich Bane, and build AP items (I do have a hybrid build for her but the AP heavy build is overally more damage).

Kayle: Nashoor's Tooth, Rabadon's Deathcap.

Are the passive overly unique, no but again I did a really rough idea and will be open to suggestions like you have sort of suggested? but I understand where you're coming from. I definitely just feel there are not enough ways to branch out a Hybrid build because you generally have to pick one over the other (usually AP unless you're Jax).