Changes to Champ Select that the community seems to want (from what I see)

Deep Terror Nami··12 votes·851 views

1. Not needing to lock in your picks/bans.

  • Riot's point seems to be to make people make their decisions faster, but what's really happening is now you fear champ select; Lock-in in time or you'll get dodge penalties. Instead, just lower the time to pick a little bit (you know, down to the time you're wanting them to lock in on average) and have it auto-lock instead of dodge. Everybody wins. Causing people to dodge just puts us back in the queue meaning you only made it longer.

2. Bring back Team Builder.

  • TB was obviously just a stepping stone to what they wanted to create in the new Champ Select, but I think you could simply compromise by allowing players to queue for the new Blind Pick with as few as 1 role; it would basically be TB for those that only join the queue with 1 role selected (but they could pick as many as they want). Those that pick 1 get to make their own choice to sacrifice queue time for a guaranteed role. The only difference is a captain can't keep kicking players, and it's possible for an ally to lock in the champion you want (mainly flex picks).

3. Add an option to leave champion select without closing the client or not picking.

  • Rito plz. Are we supposed to wait for the new client for this basic feature?

4. Add that champ select reporting you mentioned, Lyte.

  • Even if champ select trolling is reduced, I think we should still get this. Maybe it's another thing that requires the new client, but if so we'd love to know.

5. Tabs to sort champions by Roles and custom tabs

  • This should be self-explanatory; if I want a Support, I click the support tab and look at them. If I want one of my favorite picks, I click on the custom tab I made in my profile. I'd also suggest reclassifying some champions to match how they are used in the current meta, not just what they were intended for on release.

6. I'm sure there's more. I'm done for now and may make additions as they are presented.

  • Comment if there's a necessary feature of the new Champ Select many are asking for, or anything pertaining to the recent changes such as the removal of Team Builder.

13 Comments

ModWulf Helhammer2 votes

TY based Nami

LunaJoestar1 votes

Yea this is way longer lol

Deep Terror Nami4 votes

I'll make it short and sweet for the others then :3

  • Auto locking instead of forcing to dodge
  • Bring back TB
  • Dodge button
  • Champ Select reporting
  • Champion role tabs and custom/favorites tab
LunaJoestar1 votes

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I'll make it short and sweet for the others then :3

  • Auto locking instead of forcing to dodge
  • Bring back TB
  • Dodge button
  • Champ Select reporting
  • Champion role tabs and custom/favorites tab

I meant the new champ select is longer lol

BlunterMonk1 votes
  1. what? If you're not gonna lock, you're not gonna play.
  2. They stated multiple times that team builder is not what they want.
  3. They don't want to enforce, or allow you to dodge.
  4. This could be really exploitable.
  5. agreed
  6. get back to work!
Widder881 votes
  1. Yes
  2. Maybe
  3. No, you are not supposed to leave champion selection
  4. No, it is abuseable
  5. Yes
Deep Terror Nami1 votes

I'm still not seeing why champ select reporting would be abusable any more than regular reporting is (it isn't). Please explain.

The reporting system weeds out false reports very efficiently. Riot would not implement (or at least keep) a reporting system for champ select that automatically assumes guilt and punishes with any less efficiency.

Widder881 votes

[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=ftFQMput,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2016-01-15T22:30:27.422+0000)

I'm still not seeing why champ select reporting would be abusable any more than regular reporting is (it isn't). Please explain.

The reporting system weeds out false reports very efficiently. Riot would not implement (or at least keep) a reporting system for champ select that automatically assumes guilt and punishes with any less efficiency.

You could threaten people with a report to force them to pick a different champion. And this could work even if the report doesn't lead to a punishment by Riot, because people don't know much about how the punishment system works, so they fear reports.

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

If someone is using reports as a threat that is something that can easily lead to a punishment. It is punished quite often, actually.

When you say "reports are abusable" it sounds like you're making a statement of fact, not common perception. It only lends to the mistaken believe that Riot will punish you just for being reported, and perpetuates this problem.

Widder881 votes

Reports alone in champion selection would be not such a great thing, because you have to dodge nonetheless, and if nobody dodges you can report trolls after the game. I don't know if Riot has the time to review all dodged games, to give points back to dodgers who dodged because of a troll.

What would have a bigger benefit, is a dodge for free button. If 4-5 players press it, they dodge for free, and the game doesn't even start. But then there is the problem, that 4 players could press it if they don't like the champion pick of the fifth player. So some games wouldn't start even if nobody is trolling. And it would be difficult to get in a game with something like Urgot.

A function like this is only useful if it has an effect instantly. But if it has to be instantly an check by Riot if trolling actually happened is excluded.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Reports in champion selection would be actually completely useless. You can just report them after the game.

The purpose is for games where a player is trolling etc. and forces someone to leave the match...you can't report them at the end if the game is never played, yet they have still broken the rules and will do it again. The only option is to submit a support ticket with a screenshot, or play the game with them just so you can report. Those are shitty alternatives.

What would have a beneifit, is a dodge for free button.

I'm not talking about free dodges. I'm talking about leaving champ select and incurring your normal dodge penalties, nothing more. Currently if you want to dodge you have to exit the entire client and relog.

A function like this is only useful if it has an effect instantly. But if it has to be instantly an check by Riot if trolling actually happened is excluded.

Reporting is not to get a benefit for yourself instantly. Reports are to help protect others in the future. Having reporting in champ select they could view the logs, but as it stands now there is no match record of a game that was never played, and therefore no chat log.

Zyorhist1 votes

the only one I really actually agree with is #5.

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