Got people complaining about Shen/Sion/Jarvan being too tanky and needs nerfs cz they "too strong"

BeatzBoyFTW·Nov 23, 2014·8 votes·1,642 views

And the first thing that pops in my mind when they mention it, as if it were in a teamfight:

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ArsenalsNov 23, 201410 votes

I don't believe Shen/Sion/J4 are overpowered; however, regardless if they're a tank or not - I can't walk passed the front line to attack their back line. I can (and will) die to the enemy teams tank as any adc if I don't kite/kill them (unless my front line kills their back line first).

The ADC's job is to attack the closest, most threatening target at the safest distance while attempting to output the highest DPS without dying. If that means I have to focus J4 instead of walking passed him to try and kill their squishies, I'll do it.

You don't honestly think I can attack the enemy adc/mid laner while allowing j4 to combo/ult me, do you?

BeatzBoyFTWNov 23, 20144 votes

And usually it's not only the ADC who complains like this one right?

soulbanana8Nov 23, 20141 votes

I don't believe Shen/Sion/J4 are overpowered; however, regardless if they're a tank or not - I can't walk passed the front line to attack their back line. I can (and will) die to the enemy teams tank as any adc if I don't kite/kill them (unless my front line kills their back line first).

The ADC's job is to attack the closest, most threatening target at the safest distance while attempting to output the highest DPS without dying. If that means I have to focus J4 instead of walking passed him to try and kill their squishies, I'll do it.

You don't honestly think I can attack the enemy adc/mid laner while allowing j4 to combo/ult me, do you?

TBQH, why the heck are you staying super tight against tanks that want you to stay close up for maximum CC? I know that you have to stay with your team, but you don't have to hug them, do you? If they can pick you off while wasting J4 ult, then that's not good, but that's no J4 ult. Also, if there's JUST J4, shouldn't your team be able to deal with him because J4 has no real burst unless he goes full AD. You're also at the very back of the fight, meaning that J4 has to dive super deep to reach you. If you're at the very back, you might survive.

ArsenalsNov 23, 20141 votes

That's exactly what I'm saying.

OP is saying "don't focus the tank", when in reality that's the only option. I can't walk passed the front line to attack the back line, which means I will be in back attacking the tank (or whoever is closest to me that is a threat). I will have my team with me, but that doesn't matter if I'm walking passed the J4 to attack the backline - I'll get bursted and killed VERY quick.

FeathermaneNov 23, 20142 votes

Yes, I believe Shen taunting you and Jarvan trapping you inside his model castle have nothing to do with forcing you to attack them.

KnalxzNov 23, 20141 votes

I lol'd

AmightyTNov 23, 20141 votes

People need to learn to itemize, I went a game where I went 31/3 as Garen and after that I begged them to build item 3153 item 3071 item 3035 , then I started to rack up the deaths.

AlëkNov 23, 20141 votes

People need to learn to itemize, I went a game where I went 31/3 as Garen and after that I begged them to build , then I started to rack up the deaths.

ur telling me. you TOLD them to itemize against you? ok

AmightyTNov 23, 20141 votes

Really I did! http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1640496763/47913239?tab=builds&participant=5

everyone but Velkoz and Malphite bought Antitank items at the same time ~47 minutes in.

ConnceptNov 23, 20142 votes

Why's that so strange? I don't play PvP anymore, between full time work and full time studies most days I just have time for an AI bot game for my daily. But back when I did, if my opponents skill clearly wasn't up to par, I gave my opponents tips against me and my teammates all the time.

I still say jarvan deals a little too much damage for how tanky he is though...

KnalxzNov 24, 20141 votes

People need to learn to itemize, I went a game where I went 31/3 as Garen and after that I begged them to build , then I started to rack up the deaths.

ur telling me. you TOLD them to itemize against you? ok

I do it quite alot when the enemy is getting smashed.

Mainly because they probably don't know how to itemize and just build whatever Riot tells them too.

Hell one time i helped a guy by teaching him out to look up items. He thought that the items you see were the only ones that champion could build.

PhoenixOfHeavenNov 23, 20141 votes

And no mention of Ranmus? The tank of tanks.

And Sion is the onlt true OP tank. his w stack hp infinitly, like Nasus and Veiger. he can have so much stacks, hes almost unkillable.

AlëkNov 23, 20141 votes

And no mention of Ranmus? The tank of tanks.

And Sion is the onlt true OP tank. his w stack hp infinitly, like Nasus and Veiger. he can have so much stacks, hes almost unkillable.

..... not true at all bruh. At most his W gives him a free warmogs. The game would have to last like 3 hours for him to gain that much. The max amount of health I've gained while playing sion is about 700.

PhoenixOfHeavenNov 23, 20141 votes

Depends. some people focus to get it REALLY high.

But yes I get what u mean.

Leblancs BoobNov 23, 20141 votes

If it was as easy as "ignore the tanks only attack squishies" then tanks would not exist as they would be completely useless. A lot of time you have to focus the person right in front of you as running past them would kill you. With that being said, none of the champs you mentioned are even OP