But it's not "toxic" for a rito employee to say, "troll and you won't have your account long"?
inb4 it's toxic cuz "__"
Not asking why it is toxic by itself. I'm asking why it's only toxic if it's not a rito doing it.
SrbLud4 votesWhen you do it in the game you are retaliating against a player and trying to influence other players. You just involved them in a toxic exchange and you are lowering the enjoyment of the game for them. Riot tells you out of the game you might get banned. It's a rule. I can't put it all here but here you go.
This is a huge read but everything is there.
PDE5 Inhib1 votesSee, I consider pre-game chat select to be apart of "in-game". For reference, I'm talking about a video when Phreak was in a game (not when Lyte used to smite people on the boards) with some kid. Phreak said, "see how long your account lasts" to the kid. Point being, had that shown up in someone else's chat logs, the community would be quick to jump on them as being 'negative and toxic'. Phreak threatening to ban the players account is most definitely retaliating against them...and creating a negative environment.
SrbLud1 votesThat was Tyler1 a well known troll and he was right to do it. If someone makes the rules and you mock those rules in their face, they have all the evidence right there. Phreak works for Riot and he knows the rules by heart. He has a Riot name and is trusted to moderate if needed. Treathening a moderator to troll is not a smart thing. When Riot employees with moderator privileges play the game, they moderate if needed at the same time.
PDE5 Inhib1 votesHe did not know that it was Tyler at the time. He could have easily tried to diffuse the situation, you know, like they all tell players to do. Instead, he jumps right to "im going to ban your account."
SrbLud1 votesIt was obvious so he warned him. It didn't matter he didn't know who it is. He bassically told him. "Ok you are breaking the rules if you do it, and i'm a moderator that has the power to ban you". Tyler1 being on the other side of the keyboard just confirmes that they are good at moderating. He recognized that it was a troll and threatened to punish him as rules could've been potentionally broken. Him diffusing the situation is not an option as he officially represents riot and is a moderator first and player after. He can play and have fun, but when problems arise he has to act officially.
Anomander3 votes"see how long your account lasts"
Is not the same as asking for a report. It is warning them that they are doing something toxic.....Something Phreak as a riot employee has a responsibility to do.
PDE5 Inhib1 votesAnd if someone on here posted chat logs and that was in it, the community would consider it toxic.
Anomander1 votesMaybe but I doubt it...... The community understand the difference between a warning and a threat.....
Twiggles3 votesOne is an out-of-game warning about what negative behavior can lead to.
One is an in-game attempt by someone unaware of how the report system works to incite a crowd against an individual.
Was this question seriously worth asking?
PDE5 Inhib1 votesNegativity doesn't apply to champ select?
If a regular person had posted these statements in their chat logs, these boards will be the first ones to call them toxic.
Twiggles3 votesChampion select is still in the game, is it not? Begging for reports is an individual pointlessly trying to incite a crowd against another individual.
Riot telling you you could be banned for negative behavior is an out of game warning about where negative behavior can land you.
Thank you for putting words in my mouth though.
So really, is there any sort of legitimate point to this thread or...?
PDE5 Inhib1 votesWhy do you keep saying out of game? The rito instance I'm referring to was in champion select. Therefore, in game. I'm not sure why you keep saying "rito telling you that you could be banned out of game" when that's not even what I'm talking about.
Twiggles1 votesMy bad for misunderstanding. You might want to make that a bit clearer in your OP.
Anyways, Rioters are not immune to the punishment system. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that Riot employees have lost their jobs over in-game behavior in the past.
You opened the OP implying that we didn't think that was toxic coming from a Rioter. That is a silly assumption to make. If anything, a threat like that is even more toxic coming from a Riot employee.
What this Rioter did is essentially a scare tactic to get a player to act a certain way and could be construed as them also using their authority as a Riot employee to influence players in game.
Report them like any other toxic player, and in the case of a Riot offense, I'd also send in a support ticket for good measure.
Vhan87652 votesI don't understand what you're trying to question here at all. Toxic players are a problem in general and are something no one wants to deal with no matter where you are or what you're doing. The Report feature on almost every game or site is precisely because no one wants to deal with toxic players. So it's only natural that here too, if you're toxic, being reported will be encouraged against you by everyone.
PDE5 Inhib1 votesI'm questioning why it's toxic for a player to ask for a report when someone is trolling, but it's not toxic for a rito employee to tell a person that they are going to ban their account if they troll. Just as the thread had said. I actually specifically stated that I'm not asking why it's considered toxic.
If a regular player said, "im just going to play a mage support now because you didn't communicate" and "troll and see how long your account lasts", they would be told they are toxic. Yet it's ok for a rito to do it. I'm simply asking why.
Vhan87651 votesI understood that, I still just don't get it. Is there really any difference between the two? All I'm reading still is, "If you're toxic, someone wants you banned"?
Also, I've personally never encountered anyone being considered toxic for telling others to report a toxic player in my experiences.
EDIT: Both of those examples you posted are toxic behaviors lol. If someone is a troll or toxic, there is no need to openly admit your desire to report them, it'll just make the problem worse. And acting out and playing a role wrong because of lack of communication is straight immature. Peeps have been playing this game long enough to know what they need to be doing regardless of having a talkative team or not.
PDE5 Inhib1 votesIs there really any difference between the two?
I don't think so. That's why I don't understand why it's ok for a rito employee to do it. That's the question I'm asking.
Interfector1 votesThis is A response from my deleted post, just reposting on a random comment of yours just in case you didn't get it, I repuloaded it in gameplay if you'd like to continue.
Well that's an easy question really, people want to win. People look at Yasuo's kit and his abilities, his design, his play style and genuinely love it, at least I do. He provides a lot to the team and is able to carry the whole team on his back when fed enough, something a lot of champions don't have in this meta anymore.
People aren't innately toxic like people think, I was 2 week suspended for being toxic but only when I was being followed around by an ezreal with smite stealing all my jungle camps, wouldn't that make you angry?
I'm genuinely a nice person when I'm not aggravated, I try to help people and teach them how to play the game more extensively, but for the love of god don't troll or I will flame the shit out of your like that ezreal
Being banned for talking shit is stupid in its own right in my opinion, but letting someone who's trying to ruin the game for EVERYONE go off Scott free? Ridiculous.
By the way there's no such thing as a champion that's, "easy to fight against" it's about player skill and development, no one champion is played the same, people attempt to copy exactly but you can't, everyone has their style, everyone improves differently.
I've been playing league for a year with no MOBA experience and I've hit Diamond, I'm very proud of that and it hurts me seeing other people try and ruin the game when everyone could be diamond with practice, people are just too ignorant to learn or are too easy to give up.
Hope that answers your question, have anymore?
Wolfess2 votesit's toxic because if you ask the other team to do it in all chat, they might not have the visibility of the chat on your team side, which means it's asking them to report someone whether there really was toxicity or not. If you have a problem with someone, you report them. If the other person has a problem with someone, they will report them without you asking them to.
Don't ask others to report, it is considered harassment.
EndlessSorcerer1 votesIt doesn't do anything.
The system tracks the frequency of the games you are reported in; it doesn't care how many times you are reported in a single game.
Quite frankly, your report alone isn't treated any differently than 9 reports in a single game.
Riot employees don't threaten to report people or harass them regarding it. Considering they are the final authority in the matter, they don't have to.
If they can confirm that you are violating their ToS first-hand and have the evidence to support it, then they don't have to wait for the system to identify and process the punishment. They can escalate the issue immediately.
If they state "troll and you won't have your account long", then that is probably the final warning you are being given that your behaviour is unacceptable.