Why are people suprised when they get reported for saying "Easy" after a game?

Raoul··105 votes·6,240 views

Honestly, last game I had 3 in my team who couldnt resist to verbally spit the enemy team in the face after we won and when I said I report this insulting, they were seriously suprised...

Thats like being suprised when someones mad after you spit them in the face after a football game you won...

168 Comments

SparksFFF20 votes

riot has stated after matches saying ggez is reportable...so he is in the right for reporting it.

for what ever reporting is worth these days.

Sraeg201314 votes

"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster."

and when I said I report this insulting

At this point I'd silently report you for toxicity.

OP Garen Support8 votes

The amount of messages I receive from Riot tripled in the past 2 months. I got like 7-8 punished message. So Yeah Riot does care for "gg easy noobs" (or anything similar unsportsmanlike behavior)

Fun fact though always the carried trash says gg easy, who contributed nothing to win just flame and fed hard all game. Since they do it quite often they are getting punished so feel free to flame all you want, we wont miss you if you get banned.

So if you support insulting the enemy with gg easy after winning I assume you are that trash who dont deserve to play against other humans :)

TwitchInMyPants4 votes

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The amount of messages I receive from Riot tripled in the past 2 months. I got like 7-8 punished message. So Yeah Riot does care for "gg easy noobs" (or anything similar unsportsmanlike behavior)

Fun fact though always the carried trash says gg easy, who contributed nothing to win just flame and fed hard all game. Since they do it quite often they are getting punished so feel free to flame all you want, we wont miss you if you get banned.

So if you support insulting the enemy with gg easy after winning I assume you are that trash who dont deserve to play against other humans :)

I love the disproportionately high amount of toxic Soraka players. Like a fed teammate diving at you and destroying your team and the Soraka is the one shittalking while hiding from everyone lol

LordOfTheLeague3 votes

It makes sense, it's the guy who did nothing and still win that think it was easy.

GreatWhiteNorth1 votes

I wouldn't call them "carried trash", but I've noticed that the ones who got carried usually type that; because they genuinely found the game easy.

If I'm the one carrying, I'm finding it hard most of the time. I've also noticed that if I am doing slightly poorly but getting carried, the game will feel easy because I don't have to think as hard to win.

I've never typed this in chat; I see it as kicking someone while they are down.

OP Garen Support1 votes

The 0 10 0 KDA enemy who was verbally abusing our team and the enemy team wins, because my teammates fed harder. What do you call him? Trash is the answer. It makes them feel better to verbally abuse the enemy who is better then him/her by saying gg easy in a match he did not deserve to win. (nor did he deserve to be your opponent in the first place with that kind of skill level)

Matchmaking is broken in ELOHELL (I call it ELOHELL since its easier to climb from gold to plat then silver to gold)

You climb in silver to gold if you can carry the noobs who belongs in lower bronze. Mos of the times these noobs are toxic as well which I call trash.

Qzply767 votes

Well keep reporting,so that your reports have less weight.

Raoul56 votes

Since when is insulting other not reportable?

Qzply765 votes

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Since when is insulting other not reportable?

You weren't talking about an insult

Imperial Pandaa56 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EnunvHEJ,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-04-05T21:50:09.230+0000)

Yes, it's reportable. Yes, it's negative. Yes, it's unsportsmanlike. Yes, it could help contribute to a penalty.

No, a single ggez by itself, without further history of unsportsmanlike behavior is not going to result in a penalty.

If someone does it consistently, that's one thing. But don't expect to get a feedback message saying a player has been penalized for each and every time a person says ggez.

Sukishoo28 votes

Riot said recently reports don't have weight. Plus, Easy, GG Easy, ect are all reportable offences by Riot as well. Plus I report people for that all the time and get several confirmations that they've been punished.

MurderByNumbers1 votes

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Riot said recently reports don't have weight. Plus, Easy, GG Easy, ect are all reportable offences by Riot as well. Plus I report people for that all the time and get several confirmations that they've been punished.

Valid reports are equally weighted, but if you report frivolously, the system will start disregarding your reports.

Sukishoo11 votes

It used too but not anymore it doesn't.

TwitchInMyPants1 votes

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It used too but not anymore it doesn't.

Source? I was under the impression that's exactly how it worked since early on.

Baka Red6 votes

Source is this one I believe: Tantram "2- No, there are no report 'weights' anymore."

Handin Out Naps7 votes

I really dont get why people get so offended by gg ez. I'm not the nicest person in game, and I don't just let insults go, but I can say that I've rarely been offended by gg ez or even said it myself.

Irelia Bot2 votes

Chance to get back at them that is completely allowed.

They are committing unsportsmen like conduct in saying it. Hai got fined for giving the team they were facing the finger after a game.

If you allow that were is the line drawn? When racial slurs are being brought into play?

korg0232 votes

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0nTheRiverStyx9 votes

Well to your "It's just four letters." comment.. Michelle Carter (the young girl who sent texts to her boyfriend telling him to kill himself when he was severely depressed) was just text messages made up of letters on a screen. Now that's an extreme example, of course, but regardless, words have weight to some people. Regardless of whether it is the truth or not that the game was easy - there is the idea of being decent human being. "GG easy," is rarely said in the simple, honest way in which you describe it as simply telling the truth. It is usually said with venom behind it and is said to put people down. "GG easy," is never something that needs to be said and typically only upsets people (So why do it?). The only reason behind saying it that I can see is to purposely upset people and/or in some messed up way in which the offender is trying to build themself up by tearing another down.

Irelia Bot6 votes

Why are they saying easy?

There is no need for it but they are trying to get a reaction.

korg0233 votes

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Irelia Bot6 votes

And they got reported for unsportsman like conduct.

Go cry in the corner about the report.

ChaoticPinecone7 votes

And a middle finger is just one raised finger. Calling someone "a piece of shit player" can be telling the truth - doesnt justify you being toxic.

korg0234 votes

Haha alright, im gonna make sure to say "gg ez" after every game now in hope to help you oversensitive people overcome it.

ChaoticPinecone5 votes

Go for it. Not only do you play on a different server than I do, if you get banned for it it has zero effect on me.

Sraeg20131 votes

And which part of "ggez" stands for "a piece of shit player" exactly?

ChaoticPinecone3 votes

I'm simply responding to a post that certain things are not "merely" what they are (GGEZ is not just letters - its a specific phrase that sad little people state to make themselves feel better because they are better at a video game) and that "telling the truth" isnt a defense to toxic behavior.

Sraeg20131 votes

and that "telling the truth" isnt a defense to toxic behavior.

You surely pull those phrases out of your hat.

3TWarrior2 votes

you'd be surprised, where they think that it is without consequence just because it can be said. "I'm just saying the truth" as one example points to how easily players devalue other players. To them it is "just" the truth and not additionally an insult, uninformative slander against the opposing team and finally does not take into account that their own team might have just had more experienced and better coordinating players in a completely randomized matchup

notice me Sin pi7 votes

so... why isnt this in the Player Behavior section? it seems very fit for that section

Slimegoon7 votes

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will apparently decimate your soul.

Seriously, if you can't handle "easy" you need to grow up.

Atanchan12 votes

Using words to say words have no meaning. 🤔

CodyXSavageX3 votes

No way you guys are serious go play CS:GO , Gmod or Call of duty and report someone for teabagging this is unreal

I Love Thresh5 votes

{quoted}No way you guys are serious go play CS:GO , Gmod or Call of duty and report someone for teabagging this is unreal

Right, the sensitivity of most of the people on the boards is next level.

NineTailedMystic16 votes

I don't understand why people defend it. Saying ggez only has the intent of pissing off other players, with the rare use of being the team who got stomped.

Cowseed2 votes

FFS IT ONLY PISSES OFF PEOPLE WHO MAKE IT PISS THEM OFF!!

Your not playing in the Champions league or LCS. The four letters (MAX) is only on the screen for less then 3 seconds. It's like you people are trying to find something to nitpick at.

HalcyonDweller5 votes

You never answered the question, why say it in the first place?

Cowseed1 votes

Excuse me oh wise one. Let me delve into the depts of the english language to find the meaning and purpose of every god damn word.

Nah I don't do that crap. This is how it basically goes

winning enemy team: GGEZ

Me: I wonder what's for dinner

losing enemy team: GGEZ

Me: I wonder what's for dinner

Both scenerios I'm completely indifferent to the four flipping letters because the meaning and impact is kinda dependent on the person recieving the message. For the last fucking time GGEZ is not even 1/10000 times as bad as spiting in someones face. This hyperbole is bullshit and drastically inflates the actually weight of the letters.

Spitting in someones face is on par with an animal marking another animal territory. You invade their personal space and try to assert your dominace while belittling the other person.

GGEZ is the same as saying 'no sweat'. Or something along those lines. Sometimes I'm pretty sure the other person the other person doesn't even realize their doing it or even is expecting a reaction.

Now riddle me this. Why is it that you are so hell bent on witch hunting for people who say GGEZ when 5 different taunts exist as features in the game. Don't give me that shit about the mastery emote being to show off your skills. If that was the case riot would have let the ability to see enemy materies before a match remain or remove the ability to taunt your opponent with a emote flash every-single-time-you-kill-them.

Why would riot give a champ a joke that calls people noobs Akali. Why can you make an audible laugh at your opponents and why can you dance on their corpse?

Then some people wonder why feeders and actual toxic people are dodging the system while people are reporting for GGEZ.

Priorities amiright?

HalcyonDweller1 votes

EDIT: You still have managed to avoid answering the question:

For what purpose would somebody say "ggez" to an opponent after beating them?


Original comment:

People get carded or penalized in many other sports for being toxic and unsportsmanlike to any severe degree, League is the same. To participate in the sport it is expected of you to maintain at least some level of decency.

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Excuse me oh wise one. Let me delve into the depts of the english language to find the meaning and purpose of every god damn word.

Nah I don't do that crap. This is how it basically goes

winning enemy team: GGEZ

Me: I wonder what's for dinner

losing enemy team: GGEZ

Me: I wonder what's for dinner

Both scenerios I'm completely indifferent to the four flipping letters because the meaning and impact is kinda dependent on the person recieving the message. For the last fucking time GGEZ is not even 1/10000 times as bad as spiting in someones face. This hyperbole is bullshit and drastically inflates the actually weight of the letters.

Spitting in someones face is on par with an animal marking another animal territory. You invade their personal space and try to assert your dominace while belittling the other person.

GGEZ is the same as saying 'no sweat'. Or something along those lines. Sometimes I'm pretty sure the other person the other person doesn't even realize their doing it or even is expecting a reaction.

It's not the words or letters themselves, it's about the purpose for saying them. Anyone who even in victory says toxic shit to try to make the enemy feel worse about themselves is an unsportsmanlike sack of shit. Either they are the sort of person who wants to watch the world burn and like hurting others, or they are so insecure about their own ability that they feel the need to belittle others even after they have beat them.

Now riddle me this. Why is it that you are so hell bent on witch hunting for people who say GGEZ when 5 different taunts exist as features in the game. Don't give me that shit about the mastery emote being to show off your skills. If that was the case riot would have let the ability to see enemy materies before a match remain or remove the ability to taunt your opponent with a emote flash every-single-time-you-kill-them.

Why would riot give a champ a joke that calls people noobs Akali. Why can you make an audible laugh at your opponents and why can you dance on their corpse?

I've seen players say "ggez" a lot more than I've seen players flash mastery or taunts. It's a more prevalent behavior.

Then some people wonder why feeders and actual toxic people are dodging the system while people are reporting for GGEZ.

Priorities amiright?

In my case: I report leavers, feeders, "ggez"-ers, and other toxic behavior with equal weight. I don't care what the behavior is, if it's toxic or makes the game less fun for people to play then it doesn't belong in the game.

In Riot's case: Their focus right now is making the feeder detection system better. They try very hard to deal with all forms of toxic behavior. Some are easier to punish than others, and some are more often reported than others. GGEZ is more likely to be punished if it is in conjunction with other negative behaviors.

Cowseed1 votes

LOLZ!!!!!1!!!

Thought you were the other guy cause the icon and whatnot. But anyways

It's not the words or letters themselves, it's about the purpose for saying them. Anyone who even in victory says toxic shit to try to make the enemy feel worse about themselves is an unsportsmanlike sack of shit. Either they are the sort of person who wants to watch the world burn and like hurting others, or they are so insecure about their own ability that they feel the need to belittle others even after they have beat them.

Overly self righteous people can also be seen as sacks of shit. In a discussion your opinion of these people is worthless. I also think that people who don't return the pens I lend them are a sack of shit for the brief moment I remember I loaned them. Doesn't mean I'd send them to prision for it. Despite the fact that I could get soooooo much meaning from this small insignificant action. I could say something like they have no respect for my property. They have violated my right to use my pen that I have worked hard to afford and buy. You know, inflate it like that. Doesn't make my argument more valid does it. The fact that you think your better than someone who types GGEZ says alot more about you than you'd think. And as for being insecure you sound so much moreso than them. I mean no one except you really cares. Proven by the point you made as I mention below.

As for why someone would say GGEZ hhhhmmmm... honestly, i've always assumed they were trying to be funny, not asshats or anything. As I mentioned the games over and I'm not gonna see them again.... Why care?

I've seen players say "ggez" a lot more than I've seen players flash mastery or taunts. It's a more prevalent behavior.

If you see gg ez being said by about half of the people you play with that simply mean those people genuinly don't give a fuck when anyone says it to them. Basically as meaningless as saying 'no sweat'.

And more on that point you still didn't address my point on why GGEZ should be penalized when 5 taunts exist. 10 times more tilting than ggez. The only reply you gave was 'it's not done as often'. That's a bad answer. I said this already but those emotes are much more tilting than ggez.

In my case: I report leavers, feeders, "ggez"-ers, and other toxic behavior with equal weight. I don't care what the behavior is, if it's toxic or makes the game less fun for people to play then it doesn't belong in the game. In Riot's case: Their focus right now is making the feeder detection system better. They try very hard to deal with all forms of toxic behavior. Some are easier to punish than others, and some are more often reported than others. GGEZ is more likely to be punished if it is in conjunction with other negative behaviors.

I swear to god this is very hypcritical. You are basically making the game less fun to play by trying to make everyone playing the game be a suppressed Ghandi or Budda. So yeaaaaah.... that means you are being toxic. That also means people who beat me are toxic. EVERYONE is toxic. I'm guessing it's toxic when people 4man gank bot because it makes bot 'feel' bad. People that play 'OP' champs are also toxic, right?

Your view of 'making the game less fun to play' is legitmately broad. I can tell that your reports are probably gonna lose weight soon because you'd probably report someone who afks at the start of a match even when you get a remake.

I really hope we never meet in a match ever because frankly, you sound like you'd report me for getting tower dived and then that would just be another worthless report that bogs down the system and gives you a lighter report weight.

Now to equate GGEZ to something I would do that with the current downvote system. It's like when you are having a conversation with someone after a thread loses popularity and they continually downvote you. It actually detracts from the discussion and throws it off course and frustrates people because you can't really tell if they are listening or just salty and relentlessly downvoting you no matter what. Not saying you are doing this though. But in a situation like this I'm not going to find the person that downvotes me and witch hunt for them and I'm definately not going to report them and get them band for being a bit rude.

But following your phylosophy I don't even downvote this person back. I just screw them over and report them for saying something that is genuinly harmless and getting them banned because I was insecure and took what they were saying too seriously.

Did a bit of a ad hominem there. Apologies.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

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LOLZ!!!!!1!!!

Thought you were the other guy cause the icon and whatnot. But anyways

Overly self righteous people can also be seen as sacks of shit. In a discussion your opinion of these people is worthless. I also think that people who don't return the pens I lend them are a sack of shit for the brief moment I remember I loaned them. Doesn't mean I'd send them to prision for it. Despite the fact that I could get soooooo much meaning from this small insignificant action. I could say something like they have no respect for my property. They have violated my right to use my pen that I have worked hard to afford and buy. You know, inflate it like that. Doesn't make my argument more valid does it. The fact that you think your better than someone who types GGEZ says alot more about you than you'd think.

That's fair, I am definitely biased about this. I understand your point, that is my opinion and it is very subjective.

And as for being insecure you sound so much moreso than them. I mean no one except you really cares.

Sort of an ad hominem... but whatever. It's the same for me as other harassment, I don't care so much when people do it to me. It bothers me much more that they do it to others, because there is no way of knowing if those others will take it well and ignore it or if it will ruin their night.

Proven by the point you made as I mention below.

As for why someone would say GGEZ hhhhmmmm... honestly, i've always assumed they were trying to be funny, not asshats or anything. As I mentioned the games over and I'm not gonna see them again.... Why care?

If you see gg ez being said by about half of the people you play with that simply mean those people genuinly don't give a fuck when anyone says it to them. Basically as meaningless as saying 'no sweat'.

It's not funny, and it's unnecessary to say. In most of the games where I see people say it at the end, when I question them further it becomes clear they intended to harass others with it, not be funny.

And more on that point you still didn't address my point on why GGEZ should be penalized when 5 taunts exist. 10 times more tilting than ggez. The only reply you gave was 'it's not done as often'. That's a bad answer. I said this already but those emotes are much more tilting than ggez.

Personally I don't think taunts should exist. Unsportsmanlike behavior detracts from the fun of the game. And I agree it is very tilting for some people. It's not fair to those people to allow others to taunt them or harass them after a mistake with emotes.

I swear to god this is very hypcritical. You are basically making the game less fun to play by trying to make everyone playing the game be a suppressed Ghandi or Budda. So yeaaaaah.... that means you are being toxic. That also means people who beat me are toxic. EVERYONE is toxic. I'm guessing it's toxic when people 4man gank bot because it makes bot 'feel' bad. People that play 'OP' champs are also toxic, right?

Your view of 'making the game less fun to play' is legitmately broad. I can tell that your reports are probably gonna lose weight soon because you'd probably report someone who afks at the start of a match even when you get a remake.

I really hope we never meet in a match ever because frankly, you sound like you'd report me for getting tower dived and then that would just be another worthless report that bogs down the system and gives you a lighter report weight.

This is another ad hominem, but whatever. Wanting people to treat each other decently is toxic? This is news to me.

I don't think it is toxic to beat an opponent, be it 4-man ganks or using OP picks. I think it is toxic to harass them. Relying on OP picks is metasheeping, but that's a separate issue.

DCs I usually don't report unless they've been toxic already and express a desire to leave. I don't report players for feeding unless they run it down mid or specifically announce their intentions to feed.

Mostly I report hate speech, harassment, and unsportsmanlike behavior. Oh and AFK if they sit in base and just talk in chat because the team refused to surrender when they wanted us to.

Now to equate GGEZ to something I would do that with the current downvote system. It's like when you are having a conversation with someone after a thread loses popularity and they continually downvote you. It actually detracts from the discussion and throws it off course and frustrates people because you can't really tell if they are listening or just salty and relentlessly downvoting you no matter what. Not saying you are doing this though. But in a situation like this I'm not going to find the person that downvotes me and witch hunt for them and I'm definately not going to report them and get them band for being a bit rude.

I feel you, it sucks when people misuse the voting system here. Personally I haven't downvoted any of your comments in our discussion. But I understand your frustration.

But following your phylosophy I don't even downvote this person back. I just screw them over and report them for saying something that is genuinly harmless and getting them banned because I was insecure and took what they were saying too seriously.

Words hold meaning and impacts. People act like words are meaningless but the truth is that they can significantly affect the way a person thinks and feels. Words are the medium of ideas and emotion by which they are transferred from person to person. I don't report minor things, but harassment isn't minor.

Did a bit of a ad hominem there. Apologies.

Thanks. I appreciate that you identified that.

Cowseed1 votes

This argument is now finished. To explain why recall your comment on the taunting system:

Personally I don't think taunts should exist. Unsportsmanlike behavior detracts from the fun of the game. And I agree it is very tilting for some people. It's not fair to those people to allow others to taunt them or harass them after a mistake with emotes.

This is an ideal of yours that I am strongly opposed to. Taunts have been in games for ever whether it be player made or coded in by developers. You believe that taunts are toxic. I just think it adds a new dynamic to a game in a way. A way to show off. People actually do like taunts as surprising as it may seem.

An example is Smash. Every character has a taunt when you pull off a sick kill then persons will normally taunt. This is the same for if they are bodying you. No one really finds taunts toxic 'unless relentlessy spammed' but even then they do suck it up to an extent. They don't ban that person. That person just gets punished every time they do taunt at a bad time and taunted back at when they get taunted. There is also the fact that as smash evolved characters got more taunts.

The reason why I'm defending people who say GGEZ (I mean from punishments. People will have their own opinions about them) is because I can't agree with punishing for this when people can taunt in other ways.

You can say that it's the intent or meaning behind it that you are opposing but in reality it's the same intent/meaning that is behind many many Ctrl 1/2/3/4/6s. So banning for GGEZ is the same as banning for /dance, /taunt etc in my eyes.

So I'm guessing we'll just have to agree that we disagree.

NineTailedMystic3 votes

It doesn't matter, whether or not it actually pisses them off. It has the intent.

ninjaroxas3 votes

So you want people to teabag you in those games?

I Love Thresh2 votes

Why would people care about being teabagged?

3TWarrior3 votes

it's a mild offense but it rings social alarm bells. When someone teabags, the message usually implies, "look at how much bigger and better my crotch is than you"

it's a minor thing, but think of a cartoon or even a real life person. If they do a victory dance where they shake their butt or groin in a player's face, it's not good sportsmanship

Akali Prime3 votes

whats a fun game without a little trash talk?

NineTailedMystic33 votes

One without it.

ImTheSideKick1 votes

well a friendly game between friends with trash talk that is known to be all in good fun is fun but other wise I agree. one without it

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