Solo/Duo Queue and Ranked Flex Queue for the 2017 Season

Deep Terror Nami·Oct 5, 2016·21 votes·6,136 views

Riot Pls: Ranked Pls - 2017 Season Ranked Changes

As a solo only player who has had no issues with playing with and against premades this season, I never cared what direction they took with Ranked as long as I could continue playing solo for the good rewards.

However, I can see why many called to have Solo/Duo Queue back, and now we're getting it alongside Flex (Dynamic) like it was said we'd get initially.

What do you think the pros and cons of the 2017 Ranked systems will be compared to this season and last season?

31 Comments

WeatheredOct 5, 20163 votes

I feel like the next big complaint train will be that flex queue gets unique rewards.

DukuesOct 5, 20162 votes

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I feel like the next big complaint train will be that flex queue gets unique rewards.

lol literally the post below yours... good call.

MrWasjigOct 6, 20162 votes

Although that's a fair point to make. It would be nice if both sides had a unique reward the other didn't. But I think we all know why Flex Q will have unique rewards, because it is the successor to Riot's little baby, DynamicQ. And heaven fore-fend that nobody plays it! Basically what I'm saying is, the unique rewards offered in FlexQ are a bribe.

Dextix LTOct 5, 20163 votes

So they are finally fixing what they fucked up? Its about damn time. This is exactly what people suggested all the fucking time when they lied about bringing back soloq.

This new system will be really similar to last season one. And it will be infinitely better than the piece of shit we have now.

OussaOct 5, 20162 votes

It's dumb how they added that there would be "extra special" rewards and "more flair" on the Flex Queue rewards. It's harder to get higher ranks in solo/duo and you get better rewards now for playing the easier queue.

Deep Terror NamiOct 5, 20163 votes

How is it "harder" in solo/duo when everybody there is solo/duo?

OussaOct 5, 20161 votes

You don't get voice chat with the other solo queue players. You are much less organized against the other people and it's up to you to carry as you usually can't rely on teammates. That's why people hated dynamic queue and why people wanted pure solo queue.

Jeddy017Oct 5, 20161 votes

But it's not impossible to climb in a Solo/Duo environment. I mean, players have did this for YEARS because that's how the old Ranked system was.

OussaOct 5, 20161 votes

Hence why it should be that again. Ranked actually required skill to climb high.

XonraOct 5, 20161 votes

"Hence why it should be that again." I'm not even sure what you are arguing anymore lol

It IS going to be like it was before this season, so what are you even going on about with is should be that again. Are you just bitching for the sake of bitching or do you have a point that you just don't know how to make?

DukuesOct 5, 20163 votes

If anything ranking up in solo is easier.... unless you getting boosted. And pretty sure its just if you get ranks in both.

People can complain but its w/e. If you don't have the time or care to play both queues than just accept the rewards you get. Its not a big deal. Me personally, I am fine playing solo but I am also fine jumping in to flex queue with friends and solo for additional rewards.

Why does it matter?

XonraOct 5, 20161 votes

You people will literally bitch about anything want you?

You bitch about DQ, you bitch about the little flair stickers saying if you are premade or not, then you bitch when they tell you that all essentially sucked and give you back the pre-dq queuing method.

Now you bitch about rewards because you are I guess entitled and think you should just be given all the rewards. WTF do you want?

ShadòwOct 6, 20161 votes

you also get bonus rewards when you reach gold in both queues

DukuesOct 5, 20161 votes

I am just curious how the rewards work with two queues. I think overwhelming especially at higher elos solo/duo players will be more prevalent and therefore higher level flex queue times and matches will be much longer and lopsided. I am sure it will be not much different than it is now in low elo though.

I mean I am fine with playing both queues and think its cool that you have to rank both up to get certain rewards. My struggle now is figuring out how I want to do it. I already play a lot of dynamic queue with my mid silver - bronze friends. Its fun but I play on an alt account so I don't hurt my main accounts mmr. Not going to lie, playing with them is fun but we don't win enough to rank up. Only way I got that account go gold was playing alone. So I feel it could get somewhat annoying trying to rank your account up in flex queue if your friends are lower ranks and mess around a lot. I think think its a minor worry though as having solo/duo queue will bring back some ranked integrity, which will be nice.

Could not careOct 5, 20161 votes

Pros: We're basically going back to the old system. Without Teambuilder. Oh well, at least it worked. Cons: No TB equivalent. There are still duos. Solo botlane against a duo will be as fun as ever. Boosting still available, well at least it's harder.

Overall, I would say it's good if we either got TB back or true solo queue. Now it's like... somewhat worse than it used to be in s5? Still poop, not as poopy as mid of S6, but overall this season is pretty bad aside from role selections.

HyperiönOct 5, 20162 votes

Duo has always been around since the beginning, 2 people with coms don't alter a game very often.

Could not careOct 5, 20161 votes

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Duo has always been around since the beginning, 2 people with coms don't alter a game very often.

Says someone who has played 40 times with a teammate in the last 20 games. If you say that voice comms and coordination in a duo lane don't matter, that is just BS. It is so much easier to kill the enemies if you coordinate skillshots etc and you don't have a random player you know nothing about. And botlane has 40% of players in it, so while it's certainly not a free win if you win bot, it is pretty damn snowbally and influential.

While you're right that duos have been around for ages, all I wanted to say is that they just kept avoiding this issue instead of splitting team and solo queues properly. Teams should play against teams, solos should play against solos in ranked, and anyone claiming otherwise just likes abusing the duo system which disbalances the ranked system in his favour.

HyperiönOct 6, 20161 votes

Well I am on a competitive team, and we practice in ranked. Take away the last like the 50 games, (since I joined the team) It was all soloq. So I don't want to hear, oh yeah, you boosted, you don't deserve where you are.

Okay, I had over 500 games playing 95% soloq. Duo and solo doesn't make a difference.

Could not careOct 6, 20161 votes

Okay, I had over 500 games playing 95% soloq. Duo and solo doesn't make a difference.

I'm just quoting to emphasize your point that two random players who just met, don't know each other and have limited communication can do as well as two people who know each other, know each other's style and have superior communication.

I fail to realize why then teams scrim together and use voice comms, instead of spending their time in soloq and typing to each other. They must have nothing to do I guess. Oh well, silly me.

HyperiönOct 6, 20161 votes

Because competitive (even if not LCS) is way more different that SoloQ.

XonraOct 5, 20162 votes

Did you even play Ranked before this season?

There has never been a "true solo queue" at any point ever. It has always been solo/duo (except that one point when it started and Riot wanted DQ back then <_<)

It is no different than before this season (which everyone was screaming they wanted back) except you will have the benefit of the improvements to queuing and champ select.

How exactly is this not better? No one in ranked gives a crap about team builder anyways just so you are aware (since...ya know, it isn't ranked, which is sort of the entire point and topic).

You didn't actually play ranked in season 5 if you are saying this is somehow worse. It is 100% an improvement because it is just giving us back everything of season 5, except an improved queue and champ select, with most likely an extra ban on top of it all.

Could not careOct 5, 20161 votes

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Did you even play Ranked before this season?

I'm not even sure how to answer this. If I'm talking about previous seasons, then probably yes? In any case, for those weak-minded readers out there, I'll make it clear - I've started playing in pre-season 4 and played ranked since s4. Not much tho, like 1/3 of all games - I strongly preferred teambuilder and normals.

There has never been a "true solo queue" at any point ever. It has always been solo/duo (except that one point when it started and Riot wanted DQ back then <_<)

Did I ever dispute that true soloq was never in the game?

Reading comprehension OP.

How exactly is this not better? No one in ranked gives a crap about team builder anyways just so you are aware (since...ya know, it isn't ranked, which is sort of the entire point and topic).

So I can't include the TB removal into my evaluation of entire season? My bad, my bad. I assume you're the one who determines the criteria for others to evaluate something?

And in case it's another reading comprehension failure - I was talking about overall seasons changes. I never said it was only about ranked, no?

You didn't actually play ranked in season 5 if you are saying this is somehow worse. It is 100% an improvement because it is just giving us back everything of season 5, except an improved queue and champ select, with most likely an extra ban on top of it all.

You know, there's one thing we can agree with - the splitting of bans is a good change that I forgot to mention. Not a big one, but still nice.

"Improved queue"? Please elaborate. I don't see how it improved in any way. If anything ,queue times are slightly longer, but it has never been issue for me anyway, I'm patient enough.

Also, new champ select might be nice for some, but as a support main, I literally don't care about it as support was almost always free in s4 and s5 anyway. So, my opinion about the champ select probably differs from yours, but then it means it's totally wrong right? Cause there's only 1 right opinion in the world, I know.

Finally, unless you assume that I got to Gold 5 in 40 ranked games from being a total beginner and playing bots/normals, let me emphasize that this "may" not be my main account.

XonraOct 6, 20162 votes

Talking about previous seasons and playing previous seasons is not the same thing just FYI.
Not sure what you playing in previous seasons has to do with anyone being "weak-minded", so that was just stretching for an insult there
You mentioned true solo queue and I commented on it. Just because I don't quote you line for line doesn't mean I didn't read or comprehend what you said. Grasping at straws for these insults aren't we?

You said "Overall, I would say it's good if we either got TB back or true solo queue." then commented about it being worse than season 5. Next response to someone under that you go all off in left field about communication with voice comms, which the person never even commented on. Which one of us really has the "reading comprehension" problem here?

"So I can't include the TB removal into my evaluation of entire season?" No, not when it pertains to ranked, as it has absolutely nothing to do with ranked directly. TB was normals only, the new champ select is not TB, and it BEST, it indirectly impacted ranked, but that was more a product of DQ, and not the removal of TB.

" I never said it was only about ranked, no?" You never said it wasn't about ranked either. Seeing as this entire thread is about ranked, with the title even being: "Solo/Duo Queue and Ranked Flex Queue for the 2017 Season", I can't imagine why anyone would think this was about ranked.

You sure like to throw around comments about reading comprehension, and apparently you didn't even bother to read what the entire thread was about, which was ranked.

How did the queue improve? Is this a serious question? You can queue up as specific roles, and further being improved to completely strike a role out so you never have to play it. There was nothing like that at all in the previous seasons. Ever. How is that not an improvement over getting in champ select, having everyone yell out roles, and it come down to who got lucky enough to be put into an arbitrary positioning of who is playing what?

It doesn't matter that you still got support, because, believe it or not, there are more people than 1) just you and 2) just supports playing this game. Good for you, you get to play support, but in what way does that invalidate it being an overall obviously better system?

And finally, I don't care about your rank or your accounts, so not sure why you even bring it up. I literally could care less about you, your rank, or how many accounts you have, as it has nothing to do with this conversation.

Could not careOct 6, 20161 votes

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I started replying, but the further I went, the more stupid it felt. You don't even talk on point most of the time. In fact, even originally it felt retarded to defend my opinion, as if objective statements like "apples taste nice" needed proof. So, I deleted all and wrote this. While I was probably slightly offtopic when I stated my opinion, you went full idiot about it, so keep the crown and the last word sir. The conversation is still here, so anyone should be able to see how and what happened. But honestly, probably no one cares cause the matter itself is so stupid to begin with.

XonraOct 6, 20161 votes

Your opinion was nothing more than "I'm in the minority of people queuing up as support, therefore since my personal experience isn't hampered, everything is perfectly fine and already was, despite it actually impacting everyone else negatively."

You can be salty about it all you want, but you were wrong, your opinion is nothing but selfish, and no amount of tossing around insults is going to change the fact. You come off as just selfish and entitled, and you've stated nothing worth further responding to soooooo...

If you have something actually relevant to respond with, feel free, but I'm just going to check my replies for your name and not bother reading the next post, as I'm just going to assume it will be as pointless and insult-laden as this one.

No Yellow NorcoOct 5, 20161 votes

Pros: People get to play what they want. The new champ select option of being able to pick fill but veto your least favorite role is nice. Now fill isn't an automatic support.

Cons: I'm thinking Flex Queue might have high wait timers. This is just based on the massive bitch surrounding DQ. Maybe the unique rewards will help. I personally wish it was still a true SoloQ, though.

MrWasjigOct 6, 20162 votes

Maybe the unique rewards will help.

Is nobody else even a little suspicious of this fact? That they're having to bribe people to play in FlexQ?

No Yellow NorcoOct 6, 20161 votes

I don't think it's suspicious at all. I think the reason they're doing it is pretty obvious lol.

MrWasjigOct 10, 20161 votes

As an incentive to keep DynaQ alive, just under a different name.

Curious KatOct 5, 20161 votes

I am very happy the solo/duo queue is back, i never had issues with duos as much as i had issues with trios, or 4somes, their group mentality just made them soooo toxic, so toxic in fact that they would intentionally bait people. And nobody wants to play a 2vs8, a 3vs7 etc when your own team mates whom are in a trio are against you and baiting you.

I am just happy i won't have to go against trios or 4somes on voice chat anymore also, it's a blessing.

Supreme Senpai69Oct 6, 20161 votes

Lmfao are people really already complaining in this thread about something new now that solo queue is coming back? I'm happy as hell and will finally start playing ranked again. Was gonna try to get the Maokai skin but honestly not worth the headache (since I don't play Maokai.)