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YOU don't know which players are good and bad

Axests··43 votes·2,283 views

We all know those toxic people that seem possessed to say something like "you're garbage and should never play X role again" or "Don't play champions you can't play". Meanwhile i'm sitting here having my worst game of the day on a champion i have MASTERED. Am i the best? no. Am i doing well? no. Does this make me bad? NO. EVERYONE has games where they do badly and feed, even challenger and pro players get on board the feed train, feeding or playing badly does not make you bad at the game. The most annoying part is that these games are usually right after you STOMP a game, making their insults feel even more dumb. Not to mention that INSULTING YOUR TEAM HELPS NOTHING, all it does if give you some shallow way to blow off steam for your own self-satisfaction at the cost of your team's performance and morale. Oh and stop calling for ff@20, if you'd stop afk'ing and play the game your team might make a play and turn things around, you're losing what, 20 minutes maybe if you keep playing and lose? How about you use that time to practice and potentially turn the game into a win.

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Iqqi8 votes

There is no reason to have a chat system in league anymore. Everything that needs to be communicated can be done through pings and with just a little brain power you know what someone was communicating.

There is absolutely no reason whatsoever in summoners rift for all chat to exist except for the explicit purpose of encouraging flaming and general toxic behavior.

Riot wants to fix toxicity? Remove All chat, remove in-game chat. Sure people would complain. The people complaining are the people who are trolling, who are toxic, who are responsible for the problem.

People dont realize just how much you can communicate with the pings.

Eevee In A Jar8 votes

I upvoted you but you don't have to get rid of the chat system. if toxicity bothers you that much, just mute them. That's what those buttons are there for. You mute your entire team and enemy team at the beginning of the game; you will experience 99% less stress and will be reported 99% times less. As you said, pings are all you need to communicate. people felt the same way about pings being all you needed back when there were only 2 pings and not the current smartping.

And I agree 99% of the times, people who complain about something (usually people who complain about another person or about afk's or about something that causes their loss) have a high chance of being toxic themselves or are the ones who provoked another person into being toxic.

If you aren't toxic you simply don't obsess and sulk over a loss that no longer has any significance. Now just because a loss does bother you and anger you sometimes doesn't MAKE you toxic but you understand there's a line you must cross before being toxic. You don't become toxic if you don't care about losses, don't care about your internet ego, etc.

Iqqi1 votes

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I upvoted you but you don't have to get rid of the chat system. if toxicity bothers you that much, just mute them. That's what those buttons are there for. You mute your entire team and enemy team at the beginning of the game; you will experience 99% less stress and will be reported 99% times less. As you said, pings are all you need to communicate. people felt the same way about pings being all you needed back when there were only 2 pings and not the current smartping.

And I agree 99% of the times, people who complain about something (usually people who complain about another person or about afk's or about something that causes their loss) have a high chance of being toxic themselves or are the ones who provoked another person into being toxic.

If you aren't toxic you simply don't obsess and sulk over a loss that no longer has any significance. Now just because a loss does bother you and anger you sometimes doesn't MAKE you toxic but you understand there's a line you must cross before being toxic. You don't become toxic if you don't care about losses, don't care about your internet ego, etc.

Correct you can /ignore all and the problem goes away. This is what I do. It is amazing the large percentage of games were the toxicity starts in champ select during the draft. Still trying to figure out this 1% toxicity figure Riot keeps using.

The /ignore all gets you through the game, however the ignore feature does not work in the pregame champ select window, or the post game chat select window. I would wager a bet that the percentage of games that have toxic comments in the post game window, exceed the percentage of games that have toxic chat in them. Just because you now add the all chat and the QQness of people losing.

I could not tell you why the ignore feature does not mute said player across all areas of communicate. Sure it means they cant friend you, see them in a chat group, or in game. I understand the pre-game window. I do not understand the post game window.

NichtHurz3 votes

I just really hate to do that, because through the communication with allies or enemies I've not just had those horribly annoying flame experiences, but also some of the best moments and games and afterwards you might've found nice people to play with. Even enemies. Muting right in the beginning just doesn't seem right to me and in the moment you have a decent team or play with decent premades it can really help to make some fancy plays and communicate pushing etc. better.

Eevee In A Jar1 votes

Yeah I've stopped muting everyone but it's reverted back to having toxicity in about 60% of my games. Sometimes I'm the cause of it too. Nah it's just best to ignore everything said.

Saphixia3 votes

oh yes because you can ping "no flash" "no ult" and "both summs down"

Remlap12232 votes

You could have a system like Smite and a few key presses is all it takes to communicate 99% of things. I think I've used chat in that game about 10 times total.

Mama Soraka2 votes

I don't think anyone uses VGS for the intended reason. Most games its me and some random spamming "OK" and "GANK" and "PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE" back and forth at each other for giggles.

Remlap12232 votes

I'm not saying it doesn't happen. But when you can communicate effectively with VGS, there isn't a need to type out in chat, which leads to unfiltered shit like calling someone a scrublord fuckwhistle.

All it takes is between 3 to 5 keys to communicate pretty much everything you'd ever need to communicate with your team. It's quicker, it's easier, it's less toxic, and as an added bonus if you're a whale, you get to hear it in your own god's voice.

Nothing is more hilarious than hearing Sacred Dragon Kukulkan's Engrish trying to communicate with people. Of course, they also have some nails on a chalkboard gods like Ratatoskr and, shudders, Kawaii Bastet.

Mama Soraka1 votes

I have Kawaii Pop Bastet, Harujuku Neith and the VO packs for them. I spam them. Nonstop. :]

Eevee In A Jar1 votes

Not taking a shot at you; do you really think your teammates and peers in bronze in Oceania are taking note when you write no fl, no ult, whatever? And most of the people who share this same opinion are all high ELo players. At least back in the day when we didn't have smart pings or they didn't ban people as much, all the pros and higher elo players say something like if toxicity bothers you mute everyone. The word toxic itself is bad. They would tell people even on diamond level you only need pings. And honestly, if using chat basically almost guarantees increasing your stress as well as increasing your chances of getting reported or starting some kind of ragefest circlejerk, why use it when you don't have to?

Mhihnj1 votes

I like to chat whenever i do an amazing play. feels good

Arakadia1 votes

But there is positive experience that comes from chat. You can explain tactics and how things work (such as what to build against someone or how threshs lantern works. I always just tell them they can't judge me based off one game. You can share a laugh and/or just talk. Wp, gj, etc. can't be pinged. How else can you make friends through league?

Axests1 votes

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But there is positive experience that comes from chat. You can explain tactics and how things work (such as what to build against someone or how threshs lantern works. I always just tell them they can't judge me based off one game. You can share a laugh and/or just talk. Wp, gj, etc. can't be pinged. How else can you make friends through league?

don't get me wrong i've met plenty of nice people in league, some of my closest friends today i met through league, it's just the toxic side that really irks me.

Dedrius6 votes

Its even better when they look you up and see you have a 70%+ winrate on that champion which leads them to calling you boosted for having a bad game.

RIP

Eevee In A Jar4 votes

Ahahaha yeah every bad game I get I am called elo boosted.

Unstoppable Monk1 votes

I lost season 4 gold trying to do end season climbing because I got harassed by my own team every game for like 50. I still choke on promos to this day, it was pretty traumatizing. I had to take another break from lol after a break from lol.

I just report anyone who does that these days, if I get out of the S5-S6 decay and see it in high silver again.

Unstoppable Monk1 votes

Sucks even more when you know the other 25% of those losses were caused by afk or people trolling your jungler by stealing his first camp =(

Best Kog NA5 votes
  • Fucking 1. I'm just about ready to change my name because of the amount of shit people give me if I feed as Kog'Maw. It's really bad. This community is just a giant crap heap in general (Yes there are some exceptions but I'm talking about the majority here.) If you don't play with a premade team, you're going to get flamed, you are going to get insulted, and there isn't anything you can do about it. The system is broken :/
Jasiwel4 votes

It's even funnier and more stupid when it's a Normals game. Like, players get super bent out of shape when you aren't performing well and have died a couple of times...when it's just a Normals game. You'd think it's their promo or something.

Then again, that kind of toxic behavior shouldn't be permitted in Ranked either. Why is it so difficult for players to just accept that they were outplayed, their teammates were outplayed, and that the other team played better?

Eevee In A Jar1 votes

Because people believe they are good

Jasiwel1 votes

No man im challenjour i just play with noobz.

Best Kog NA2 votes

Because people think (at least at the lower elo's, silver 4 life :P) that they all are faker. And if their team is losing that it suddenly is everyone else's fault because they're perfect.

Captain Aishi3 votes

when I can predict someone's death to me in lane 5 seconds in advance while they are playing a champion that counters mine... they ARE bad :P

i love to trashtalk to myself while playing the game to lighten the mood sometimes XD

Draven Wun Trick3 votes

as a draven main, i know all too well the horrible games you can have on your main

Unstoppable Monk3 votes

the type of main that you go 10-0 or 0-10. =/

LeeSin Draven

SeargentAnus3 votes

You reach challenger if you let your teammates carry you. If you get 4-5 deaths while still in the laning phase you deserve to lose the game and of course your teammates are going to be irritated.

AquariusGine2 votes

I have fed on my mains too :(

DrCyanide2 votes

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2032380521/42592968?tab=overview

I play a lot of Ezreal. Before the 30 minute mark, I was 0/9. The only things I was able to do all game was steal a dragon, and go on a kamikaze attack at the end to delay the enemies recalls while Yasuo split pushed for the win. Some games are certainly less flattering than others.

Robbit Mang1 votes

youll die a lot less if you go bluebuild. on avg i might die like 3-4 times on a bluebuild game, if it goes well maybe 2 times max.

DrCyanide1 votes

Blue build comes and goes in favor. That particular game what did me in early was their Zac support. He'd keep me knocked up, unable to do anything, while Varus would chunk me out. Iceborn wouldn't have slowed his engage any.

Robbit Mang1 votes

it wouldve been perfect, 60% effective hp vs kha and varus. For the zac i cant really help you, but if you get used to Eing his engage you can just kite and kill him. especially with bluebuild, zac is helpless.

ItsCalledALance1 votes

these stories are great for maybe gold and h igher,

bronze and silver people dont hit tab to see how strong the enemy is, and insist on team death matches they can't possibly win, rage at the guy split pushing, and give up everything.

they dont understand the concept that eventually if you stall the game, kill numbers dont mean jack. hell they mean very little anyway!

in bronze and silver kills are everything. They tend to think of the kill as like a score in RL sports.

the team with the highest number wins. I dont understand this crap at all.

Bolwinkel2 votes

Why is no one talking about the fact that Illaoi placed 0 wards all game?

DorkunedAuras1 votes

The worst part is that when you're feeding with your main you feel far worse than feeding with anyone else. You just feel like garbage, then someone yells at you.

TallyZrg1 votes

I had a normal draft game yesterday where an Ahri started flaming me saying that Illaoi (the champion I was playing) "is garbage, why would you ever pick this champion, and that I was useless".

Granted I was doing very poorly in lane since I was against a very good Renekton and I have little experience playing against the gator. I ended up muting her and learning from my mistakes. TP'd bot lane getting them a double + tower and played the map. By the end of the game I was zoning the enemy team with my presence, drawing them all to me by split pushing so my team could take baron, and setting up team fights for my team to clean up after my initiation.

Toxic people are going to be toxic no matter what you say (they are stubborn that way). Best thing to do is ignore them and show them how wrong they are through your actions.

La Barbotte1 votes

what if they do because we live in our own separate matrix and the others are scripted and are pure fiction Velkoz (x-files theme)

slippykitten1 votes

What I heard was "I fed my butt off and lost my team the game and now I'm salty because they called me bad, because I'm really awesome!"

There is a HUGE difference between having a "bad game" and showing you have no understanding of the game or your champions mechanics. Usually if you're just having a bad, you're still able to contribute something to the game.

Axests1 votes

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What I heard was "I fed my butt off and lost my team the game and now I'm salty because they called me bad, because I'm really awesome!"

There is a HUGE difference between having a "bad game" and showing you have no understanding of the game or your champions mechanics. Usually if you're just having a bad, you're still able to contribute something to the game.

That's not what i'm saying at all, in fact this post was made after a win streak, hours after playing any games. This stemmed from games i've had in the past, and something that happened to my friend in a game. He went 0 4 in lane as pantheon, and was flamed for it. Now you have to understand pantheon was his main back in season 3, and he's still good with him today, if a bit rusty. By the end of the game his KDA was positive, he had most damage on team, and they won the game. I just felt like venting this because it always makes me angry when this stuff happens. League is hands down the game i've spent most of my time on, and i've made some awesome friends while playing it, i hate that its community is plagued by toxic players.

Billy VoHagen1 votes

Honestly, you can in some ways. If someone has a bad score, I can understand they're having a bad game. But if they're constantly missing cs, going in for bad trades, etc., those are signs that they are a bad player.

Remlap12231 votes

Oh yeah that drives me up the wall. Like three times today people have told me to never play Jhin again because I got pushed in by an Alistar/Ezreal bot lane with no ganks.

I guess the two recent games I went perfect KDA don't matter. I fed in one game, so I have to never play a champion I enjoy because asshole #1798331 told me not to.

AninLegions7771 votes

When people do this to me, I just laugh it off and continue to play but I must say, if I give you advice on how to play a champ and you go about it the wrong way, lose and blame the team, then you deserve whatever anyone says. That's my opinion.

FacerollKatarina1 votes

I went 0-5 on katarina yesterday and I'm a one trick katarina >_> In series for plat :(

I was embarrassed

Darkslayer851 votes

Draven: Stop it's only normals Me: You sure? Draven: Yeah, and you suck too Me: So it's just a normal Draven: Yeah Me: Ok

Feeds Draven's lane

Draven: WTF ARE U DOINNNNNN Me: It's only a normal... Draven: You suck

See, the thing is, these guys are stupid as well...

JVP151 votes

I feel like there is a second step to this. You might be having a great game where you do everything in your power to do, but the enemy is just much, much better than you. If I am losing while playing someone I know very well (like Talon) I can look at my mistakes, and then also look at the mistakes (or lack there of) that the enemy made. Of course, everyone has bad games, but some times you are doing your best and matchmaking said, "Hey, this guy is pretty good, lets match him with this other guy who is pretty good (and happens to be Doublift's smurf) and see who is the gooder player." Of course I will make mistakes, but if I am playing someone who is clearly better than me, they might be able to capitalize simply off of a champion pick (say, Diana into a Yasuo) and not really because you dun fuked up.

Crucile1 votes

My favorite is when i get hard countered, camped, get dove by both mid and jg constantly, and its a champion that's extremely weak early and i get the salty af midlaner that doesn't realise a big chunk of my feeding was impossible to avoid.

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