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Pale Pirate52 votes

You forgot the slice of people who play custom hide and seek games there.

junglerboy1627 votes

Pretty sure that's included in the purple wedge.

Ariel the Cruel3 votes

Pretty sure that's done in custom games and therefore isn't recorded.

TheSlogs27 votes

Yep because the rest of that pie was recorded, and are totally official stats...

Voidner3 votes

Yeah i still can't understand why deleting it even from custom? some people need this gamemode

Yordle Xayah35 votes

I'm just waiting for my sweet icon.

Also, even though I have over 400 Dom games, the removal itself isn't what annoys me. Is the feel of "Having less options now" what bothers me. If they remove Dom but a month or two later are like "So now we'll have this rotation of modes, and the first week of every month there'll be a rotating Featured Mode" then I probably wouldn't remember Dom after a while. I'm just gonna miss being done with SR and pop a Dom game to just fuck around with a new champion or play a weird build.

Mhihnj6 votes

URF is coming in about 3 months.

Weeb Guardian17 votes

First of april...

We're in the middle of february... Then comes march... Then comes april...

That's about 1 and half a month...

Serika Zero9 votes

he probably countered: february = 1, march = 2, april = 3 ==> 3 months

FantasySniper7 votes

Nice use of common core math.

Mhihnj3 votes

lol sorry about that

PDE5 Inhib2 votes

countered? I'm not sure that's the word you were going for here lol

Serika Zero1 votes

counted, sometimes I make typos if i don't bother to read my post 5+ times

PDE5 Inhib1 votes

I don't know man, if you have to read your post 5+ times to catch something like that, there may be an issue xD

Serika Zero2 votes

yes, i read what i "want". because i'm already thinking "ahead", I usually read something else, not precisely what I've typed

got the same issue in my own language as well. I had someone else read my thesis for university before i've sent the final version. As there were many typos.

got the same problem when talking too. Sometimes I say 1 thing and think of another :)

PDE5 Inhib2 votes

I know it's just my opinion, but having someone read your thesis before submitting rubs me wrong. I don't think many people would feel comfortable if their doctor had someone check over their boards exam before submitting it xD

Serika Zero2 votes

Each of us have their weaknesses. We ain't perfect, nor gods.

But if we work together we can achieve a lot of things. And if spell checking means cheating on thesis exam. Fuck it, I'll cheat all day, every day :D

PDE5 Inhib1 votes

And just remember, there are students with that philosophy paying older students (that have already had the class) to take their test in med school programs.

I surely hope you don't get one of those, and it changes your thinking the hard way.

Serika Zero1 votes

Dude, did you just compare someone doing spell checking for me to make sure I don't haves stuff like "Anna was tow apples" in my thesis as opposed to "Anna has two apples"

With paying someone else to take the exam in your place? haha

PDE5 Inhib1 votes

On a thesis, yes. If you can't proofread your own thesis to avoid "Anna was tow apples" (w isn't even close to h by the way), you probably shouldn't be writing it in the first place.

I literally see at least 10 scripts a day from doctors that do this same shit. Shit like, "Inject 1500units insulin at mealtimes" because they don't take the time to proofread their stuff. They probably had people doing their shit in school too because "lelz jus an paper".

doombotMECHA1 votes

im not sure how many of my dom wins counted b/c so many of them were s3 and idk if those were counted. honestly these past 3 seasons ive barely touched lol except for bot matches for more ip

Yordle Xayah1 votes

I think it's all-time victories, as long as it was PvP and they reach 100 or more.

YuGiHo17 votes

bots dont complain...because they are bots

Duke Anax37 votes

the bot users can though.

Matezoide14 votes

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Removing content from the game is fucking stupid.

Seriously, how can anyone defend Riot in this? They are taking something from the game and removing it, who cares how many people it affects? It is their complete negligence that killed Dominion to begin with. How can anybody be ok with random removal of content?

Are some people really that self-centered that they dont understand why removing something from the game for no reason is a bad thing just because ''I dont play it anyway lel''?

BlackxHokage11 votes

No one played it.... It was a waste of time, money, and server space.

Matezoide11 votes

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No one played it.... It was a waste of time, money, and server space.

It wasnt popular because Riot gave absolutely no support to the mode.

Dominion existed for 5 years, they would have removed it a long time ago if it was a money or server space issue.

It would be a different story if they were replacing it with something to make up, but as it stands, they are taking something from the game and completely deleting it.

BlackxHokage5 votes

They are removing it because no one cares about it. And to be honest no matter what they did to it it was a bad gamemode. Should they replace it with something ? Sure but tbh no one will really care because you play the game for the rift and all the other thi gs is just fodder for when you dont feel like playing normals. Complaining about the removal of dominion is like complaining about halo removing splitscreen in the end no one really cares as long as the game that they actually care about is fine

ManiacalCoyote7 votes

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Complaining about the removal of dominion is like complaining about halo removing splitscreen in the end no one really cares as long as the game that they actually care about is fine

Are you fuckin' kidding me? Removing splitscreen is the number 1 reason why fans dumped Halo 5. You want to invite your friends over to play Halo 5 together like you've done with the past games for the past decade and a half? You each need to buy a $500 console, $150 TV, and $50 game, that's $700 per person!

343 has RUINED Halo!

Halo is no longer fine, fool!

ZehNetoBR6 votes

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It wasnt popular because Riot gave absolutely no support to the mode.

Dominion existed for 5 years, they would have removed it a long time ago if it was a money or server space issue.

It would be a different story if they were replacing it with something to make up, but as it stands, they are taking something from the game and completely deleting it.

Pretty much this. People might find it hard to believe, but Dominion WAS popular back in the days. Hell, we even had DominateDominion, a group dedicated to promoting the game mode and the matches between "higher ranked" players (so to speak, because of hidden ELO system) were epic. Unlike many might think, Dominion DOES have diversity, DOES have strategy and can lead to some amazing clashes when 2 or more veteran players meet on opposite sides. There were some gimmicky builds that eventually worked (movespeed Zilean anyone), but they were situational at best. Any team that had at least 1 player familiar with this kind of trick could easily neutralize it and, thus, punish the enemy team by steamrolling over it.

As someone who played it since launch (over 4k matches before they reseted the counter, God knows why), it is a really sad moment. I sincerely hope Riot will realize how bad of a move it is and, on a not so distante future, bring it back with the necessary updates and THE GODDAMN RANKED QUEUE WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR WAY TOO LONG.

Anidan2 votes

I miss so long ago when I could start spectating a game from when the Featured Game thing was new, and I'd occasionally get to see a high-ranked Dominion game. That was some of the funnest stuff to spectate because it was so different from SR. While someone like myself may only sort of understand what was going on, you could tell how well those top players, like Sauron, understood the mechanics of the map and how to use them to their fullest. It was so interesting because it was so different.

I tend to love being a spectator and analyzing the action more than actually being in the action myself, so that probably doesn't help, unfortunately

Sir Yamazuki1 votes

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Pretty much this. People might find it hard to believe, but Dominion WAS popular back in the days. Hell, we even had DominateDominion, a group dedicated to promoting the game mode and the matches between "higher ranked" players (so to speak, because of hidden ELO system) were epic. Unlike many might think, Dominion DOES have diversity, DOES have strategy and can lead to some amazing clashes when 2 or more veteran players meet on opposite sides. There were some gimmicky builds that eventually worked (movespeed Zilean anyone), but they were situational at best. Any team that had at least 1 player familiar with this kind of trick could easily neutralize it and, thus, punish the enemy team by steamrolling over it.

As someone who played it since launch (over 4k matches before they reseted the counter, God knows why), it is a really sad moment. I sincerely hope Riot will realize how bad of a move it is and, on a not so distante future, bring it back with the necessary updates and THE GODDAMN RANKED QUEUE WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR WAY TOO LONG.

It wasn't ever "popular", it died extremely quickly even when Riot tried fixing things. The fact the few people who cared about Dominion felt the need to try promoting it should've been a clear indicator that it wasn't popular in the first place. Other than when it was new que times were generally fairly long depending on the day and matches tended to be fairly one sided pretty often. Long que times was a general complaint back then and people had tried encouraging others to play it, although the general population had no interest in Dominion.

Although, it makes sense to remove it as a que, but I don't see why the map can't stay as an option for custom games.

Minarde1 votes

It wasn't ever "popular", it died extremely quickly even when Riot tried fixing things. The fact the few people who cared about Dominion felt the need to try promoting it should've been a clear indicator that it wasn't popular in the first place.

How do you think League got started in the first place? Fans promoted something they liked. You're comparing Dom's initial popularity to SR's then-current popularity, without considering that SR had both more time to become popular and more support from Riot. Riot only gave Dominion 2-4 months of small map tweaks before completely giving up on it.

matches tended to be fairly one sided pretty often

Not nearly as bad as SR, considering Dom's mechanics. Even now Dom games tend to be closer than SR's snowballing mess.

Although, it makes sense to remove it as a que, but I don't see why the map can't stay as an option for custom games.

Maintaining the Crystal Scar for custom games is roughly equivalent in resource costs to maintaining Dominion as a queue. Balancing would be the main difference, but there haven't been any Dominion-specific balance changes in over a year, so that part's moot. The map itself would still need bug fixes and likely a graphical update.

Sir Yamazuki1 votes

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How do you think League got started in the first place? Fans promoted something they liked. You're comparing Dom's initial popularity to SR's then-current popularity, without considering that SR had both more time to become popular and more support from Riot. Riot only gave Dominion 2-4 months of small map tweaks before completely giving up on it.

Not nearly as bad as SR, considering Dom's mechanics. Even now Dom games tend to be closer than SR's snowballing mess.

Maintaining the Crystal Scar for custom games is roughly equivalent in resource costs to maintaining Dominion as a queue. Balancing would be the main difference, but there haven't been any Dominion-specific balance changes in over a year, so that part's moot. The map itself would still need bug fixes and likely a graphical update.

Riot themselves said people gave up on it extremely quickly, anyone that isn't biased and actually played Dominion between its release and now would know long que times were an issue for a very long time. It was also common to play with and against the same people for several matches in a row until people stopped playing for the day. I think it's funny you want to say SR is more one sided even though I rarely have SR games that end before surrender time is possible, meanwhile more than half my Dominion matches from 1 single day were heavily one sided due to the fact that my team completely out skilled the opposing team to the point I could have just been afk and my team would still win anyways, in fact most of the games where I played Lee I just played it as if it was TDM since my team never needed me for any of my wins. I'm sure it's a nice experience sitting in que for 5+ minutes for a match that lasted just as long or one where you felt you were completely unneeded. I had played 26 Dominion matches over 1 day and only lost 4 or so of them with every match but 2 being one sided.

Minarde1 votes

Playing with and against the same people and long queue times aren't unheard of in SR either. They're expected when faced with a relatively small playerbase size. Dominion was popular in its own right; it just wasn't popular when compared to SR because SR had more time and opportunities to reach that level of playerbase.

Anecdotal evidence is fun! My experience is essentially opposite yours, as my Dominion games tend to be fairly close the entire game while my SR games typically heavily favor one side by surrender time.

I'm sure it's a nice experience sitting in que for 5+ minutes for a match ... where you felt you were completely unneeded.

Yeah, that's why I don't like SR. Because I at least get interesting games playing Dominion instead of feeling either hopeless or unneeded playing SR.

Regardless, the fact is that the anti-snowballing measures in Dominion are much stronger than SR's. Stomps will still occur occasionally, but that happens regardless of game mode. The difference is that reduced snowballing makes playing from behind less frustrating and playing while ahead more challenging.

Sir Yamazuki1 votes

{quoted} Anecdotal evidence is fun! My experience is essentially opposite yours, as my Dominion games tend to be fairly close the entire game while my SR games typically heavily favor one side by surrender time.

Actually, it was stated as one of the reason's for removing Dominion. Matchmaking was never balanced for Dominion due to the fact que times were long so it forced people of varying skill levels into a single match. I think it's funny you think less than .5% of the people who even had access to Dominion playing it is "popular".

Minarde1 votes

You're confusing tenses and time frames and comparing Dominion's current situation after years of neglect to SR's current situation after years of attention and support. Even with potentially wider matchmaking ranges, games are still typically closer because the game mode itself discourages snowballing. I think it's impressive how you keep single-mindedly parroting the same explanation as if it's somehow convincing anyone.

Sir Yamazuki1 votes

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You're confusing tenses and time frames and comparing Dominion's current situation after years of neglect to SR's current situation after years of attention and support. Even with potentially wider matchmaking ranges, games are still typically closer because the game mode itself discourages snowballing. I think it's impressive how you keep single-mindedly parroting the same explanation as if it's somehow convincing anyone.

You were saying my experiences were irrelevant even though it was stated to be an issue by Riot themselves. I also don't see what snowballing has to do with players of different skill level. You don't need snowballing through items for games to be absolutely one sided when there's massive skill difference. I've never even mentioned snowballing in any of my posts and stuck strictly to -skill- differences. You're the one who keeps repeating the same thing over and over with your biased experiences. Dominion was in fact -never- popular, it died immediately because the large majority preferred sr, which you know, Riot said as well. Unless you want to suggest Riot is lying, then by all means feel free to share your amazing data to prove Riot is making everything up.

Minarde1 votes

Skill differences are issues with matchmaking, not issues with a game mode. Snowballing, on the other hand, is a game mode issue that affects the perception of skill differences. Riot's statement about matchmaking issues concerns Dom's current situation. This is an awkward situation to analyze because years of neglect have already driven off most of the playerbase, causing issues with matchmaking. Once again, this has to do with the matchmaking system; it's not some innate issue with Dominion.

As for the data, feel free to share yours as well. Riot said their data showed that the majority of League's playerbase preferred SR and thus Dominion is bad and flawed. My point is that Riot's misrepresenting the data because there's no analysis on why the majority preferred SR. Hell, if you look at my account, I regularly played SR in recent months/years and rarely played Dominion. The data would suggest that I too prefer SR over Dom. In actuality, I massively prefer Dom's gameplay over SR. As many other players have said over the years, it's certainly not a gameplay preference that I'm playing SR over Dominion.

Photos of Ghosts3 votes

What money if they didnt' put any into it anyway? And why not leaving it as a custom option?

Voidner11 votes

Actually there are plenty of players playing Hide and Seek

Jabril9 votes

No one is saying this. We're mad and complaining because Riot has shown us that they are lazy "Having less options" my butthole

Old Man Teeto8 votes

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What about complaining about removing the map from customs so no more hide and seek?

Seriously gonna miss Hide and Seek.

SociopathFriend4 votes

Is there any reason you can't play Hide and Seek in Summoners Rift? I only played it once but it didn't seem like the Crystal Skar was required for it.

Old Man Teeto14 votes

By not capturing points minions don't spawn, and there's no turrets, additionally you actually get pretty good passive gold/exp so you can buy stuff and level.

It's the only good map for Hide and Seek.

Supreme Senpai691 votes

Damn, that sounds really fun actually

Actually xPeke2 votes

Hide and Seek? Yea, it's pretty fun. I used to play it a quite a bit. I'll explain in short. You have 2 seekers, and 5 hiders. Seekers are supposed to find, and kill hiders. You have 5 lives as hider. When you have 5 deaths you have to afk in base, disconnect, or just walk in the outer circle. Some champions like Teemo, Evelynn, kassadin, and rengar are banned.

Hiders are not allowed to kill seekers. And you can only use abilities that create terrain, apply any kind of cc, or grant mobility/health/defense.

Tank builds aren't allowed, you're supposed to build MS items.

The point is basically literally what it's called. Hide, and Seek I'm going to miss hide and seek D:

Arakadia1 votes

I played it as you can use whoever you want, just no stealth. No thornmail or GA either. And if your a hider you can't use damage only abilities.

Noam Braumsky2 votes

Additionally the new minion mechanics mean the lanes will eventually snowball super hard and not only give advantages to one side but also kind of ruin the game by eventually having one side's base get destroyed by minions.

The Soulforged5 votes

Because this chart is 100% accurate, right?

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