"E - Electro Harpoon WHOOPS: Fixed a bug where the cooldown between Harpoon casts was shorter on Super Galaxy Rumble" Skin advantage confirmed by rito
I like how people are getting mad over this and acting like its really a thing because they are bad and cant dodge skill shots its fine that you cant what makes you bad is your blaming a skin for it.
Blue Moon Wolf31 votestechnically it still is a thing.
underworld 
Q changes the cards making them spin in a strange way that slightly increases successful Q's
i 
makes his arm look smaller with no arm cable, making it harder to see
pulsefire 
ult looks slightly larger than it really is
hell, the commando skins give a small advantage against 
due to sunglasses
butcher 
makes you vomit uncontrollably (okay. that one I made up)
Oysteroth51 votesCan confirm butcher makes me unable to play due to excess arousal.
not a starburst3 votesNew entry on list of things I really did not want to know.
7ha7guy7779 votescertain skins also have advantages on Howling Abyss because some abilities blend in with the map too well
Nunya Bezwacks2 votesthats opinion
Arveanor24 votesVisual contrast isn't an opinion...
Nunya Bezwacks2 votesno you thinking its hard to see is
Arveanor9 votesI never said I thought it was hard to see. There is opinion here, and there is fact.
You would be correct in suggesting that whether or not these spells are too difficult to see is opinion.
But visual clarity and contrast are easily measurable things, so we can do a pretty good job in this day and age of making measurements of how difficult things are to see.
Unfortunately I can't know your specific intent when you say "thats opinion" but I felt it useful to bring some detail and clarity into the conversation, although I will say I'm not downvoting you, because, like i said, i don't really know your intentions.
ChrisB51 votesShort vague response that disproves your real argument, because it's an opinion. (seriously I hate when people try to disprove a valid statement with "it's an opinion" or "you're wrong" or "that's just stupid." Trying to get through to these people will never work)
ChrisB51 votesNo it's not an opinion. Play Snow Day Ziggs and THEN repeat that sentence :P
Twistedtoo1 votesNo it's not an opinion. Play Snow Day Ziggs and THEN repeat that sentence :P
They have little red telegraphs around things, I can imagine it being more challenging, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it is hard.
ChrisB51 votesDid they add one to his minefield and q? Regardless, it's just ARAM anyways. Just pointing out some of the silliness (: The ghost skins can be said to have skin advantage as well, but I won't go there because that's a long stretch.
Conncept3 votesunderworld
Not sure about the rest but that one is untrue, the spinning effect is solely visual and has no affect on the projectiles hitbox.
Auz the Ripper10 votesBut players rely on the visuals to infer where the hitbox is. A difference in visuals can make a skillshot easier or harder to dodge if the player trying to dodge haven't memorized the actual hitbox of the ability
cshakes4 votesSee: Ghost Bride vs Classic Morgana binding projectile. Classic has a dark glob advance at you. Ghost Bride has a freakin' bus.
CST Resonance1 votesNot sure about the rest but that one is untrue, the spinning effect is solely visual and has no affect on the projectiles hitbox.
I own Underworld TF. It baits the enemy into thinking the cards are smaller than they are. Similar with the Santa Gragas skin on his barrel.
Nunya Bezwacks3 votesNone of those are real advantages the skins with sun glasses reduce 1 point of damage.... 1 ....a whole 1 point from solar flare which isn't meant to damage anyway the rest are just you not following piccolo's advice. super galaxy rumble had a cooldown reduction on his abilities because of a skin...you know...cooldowns those things that get tweaked every now and then to keep the game balanced. completely different.
Rock Rockburgh4 votes...wait, they actually get a damage reduction? I don't care if it's just one point, that shouldn't be a thing.
Quort5 votesAnd Zyra gets a model size increase when the sunlight hits her! Plus, her SKT T1 Zyra skin has Sunglasses also! It's these fun little in game tidbits that keep things well... fun! Like "This unit is a flippin' ninja." :'C
j j2 votesAre you really going to argue that? Nobody goes out of their way to put on a skin with sun glasses to avoid that 1 dmg anyways.
Rock Rockburgh2 votesI'm sure nobody does it, it's just a precedent that I don't like having in the game.
RoyaiChaos1 votesWhy, it's not going to make a difference. Ever.
Rock Rockburgh1 votesBecause if they ever do something slightly bigger, they can point to sunglasses and say "Hey, this existed and nobody had a problem with it! Why is it an issue now, but not then?" Highly unlikely to ever happen, but it could. This being in the game gives Riot precedent if they ever decide to let skins make a bigger difference.
RoyaiChaos1 votesRiot has a habit of not doing that, it's the players that usually do it.
Dragonface1 votesTell me you can confidently say that 1 point of damage has never EVER saved someone from death, and I'll tell you it's okay to be in bronze. I'm not saying this is very significant, I'm just saying that you cannot say that it has never once saved someone's life against a Leona, seeings how League has probably 10s of millions of games played. I escape people with 2-3 health all the time. I'm sure someone has lived against Leona just because of that little bit.
RoyaiChaos1 votesFirst of all, they need a skin with sunglasses. Second of all, they need to be against a Leona. Thirdly, they need to be in a situation where they escape with 2-3 hp. It will happen eventually, but not enough that it will ever matter (like maybe once every decade).
Dragonface1 votesOnce in a decade....so what you're saying is it's a 1 in several billion chance that 1 health will save you? You can't have been playing that long. I literally cannot tell you how many times I've lived with so few health a minion autoattack could kill me. 1 kill can mean the difference between winning a game, and losing it, if the opposing player who secures said kill or gets the assist is slightly better than you. Just a little gold can push someone far enough ahead that you have a very difficult time recovering.
Once every decade? Try probably more like once a day.
RoyaiChaos1 votesThey also need to own the skin and be up against a Leona.... And a minion aa actually does quite a bit more than 2-3 damage.
Dragonface1 votesYou're still not seeing the point. I'm not saying it's a game changing mechanic, I'm saying that it DOES save lives sometimes.
Tin Tarantino1 votes
and I think also 
all get -1 to their total HP for each additional ninja on the team, because of the inverse ninja rule
SecretAgentHulk5 votesLet's not forget that Easter Bunny 
has a higher global taunt.
ChrisB51 votesHere are some not mentioned:
, Spectral 
) can be harder to see for some users (but this is a LONG stretch)
' spread can be super difficult to see (but it's just ARAM who cares, ARAM is silliness mode)
is scary
integrates a champion that was banned for op behavior prior to his release (URF URF)
often confuse Annie and Tibbers the bear
causes +1 distraction to players.
causes arousal in some players.
Executioner Mundo for those who haven't see him:
http://riot-web-static.s3.amazonaws.com/images/news/December_2011/2011_12_02_skin_sale/DrMundo_Splash_5.jpgEDIT: All joking aside, I've heard in the past that Blood Lord Vladimir's animations are a bit deceiving due to alignment, BUT, I don't know how true this is or if maybe Riot fixed it, as I've only been against this skin once (and I didn't lane with him, and post-roaming stage didn't last very long).
ChrisB51 votesAnd then let's not forget about the skins which bring opposite affects, such as...
Nielarken1 votesdont forget Zombie 
that and see invisible/bush champs and start waving his arms.
RiotRiot Sweet21 votesSkintimidation!
ChimeiTekinaNasu10 votesJust think, Riot Sweet. If Rumble skin had a secret buff this whole time, how many other skins are actually bugged with secret buffs?? =P
Would be sad if a skin had a secret bugged nerf to it, then RIP Skintimidation. Skintimidate yourself instead of the enemy.
Autrah Fang4 votesthere was a rumble bug where his flamespitter i think did less damage on purple team for a while apparently until they fixed it as well. not exactly a skin that had a secret bugged nerf, but it was definitely a bugged nerf
Pod Bevna15 votesThe biggest advantage is zombie Brand. He waves his arms when approaching enemies in bush.
ChimeiTekinaNasu5 votesWhat, wow. kk. Getting Zombie Brand next Harrowing and going to use him when my team needs a walking ward.
Brand. Walk to that bush. You didn't wave your arms? So no one in it? Let's check the next bush. waves arms SOMEONE'S IN IT, ULT IN THAT BUSH LEONA AND FIDDLESTICKS.
Rock Rockburgh1 votesI believe this was confirmed to be false. It's just that the definition of an enemy "in front of" you is so broad that it often seems like it's going off when it shouldn't.
DrCyanide5 votesI saw a video confirming it true a patch or two ago. The Rioters were very happy with the video, as it showed situations that they hadn't fixed, if I recall correctly.
Pod Bevna2 votesI saw a video confirming it true a patch or two ago. The Rioters were very happy with the video, as it showed situations that they hadn't fixed, if I recall correctly.
I think this is the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL4h2DfOn74
I do not know if this has been fixed in the last 2 months, but I don't think so...
DrCyanide1 votesThat's the one!
marshal the pyro8 votesand lollipoppy 
fears you.
gubigubi7 votesAnd if you remember rumble on purple side did less damage than rumble on blue side for awhile as well! Damn you rito and your conspiracies
qetzel6 votesAlthough I suppose the fact that they fixed it BEFORE it gained massive attention shows that skin advantage is not something they want in the game.
Rueian4 votesThat's nothing... Who remembers the infinite mana swain skin?
Autrah Fang4 voteswhere were you when pulsefire ezreal had a slight range increase on his Q?
Xonra3 votesRiot seems to believe there are quite a few "skin advantages" seeing as there are quite a few (I don't know all of them to list) that Riot doesn't let LCS players use. Xpecial was even saying recently that he hoped Riot would "let" them use some of the newer skins in the LCs as they are pretty cool.
I know this was a joke ish thread but, just sayin' :P
