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Runes are really way too expensive...

Dovahkiin416··6 votes·659 views

I was just tabbing through the runes section of the shop, and I realized something. THEY ARE WAY OVERPRICED

For instance, specifically I was look at marks of armor pen. for a full set of them they cost 3600IP. 3600IP

Lets do some quick math shall we? Say you (somehow) win every game you play, you'll get an average of 100IP per win(depending on gametime). Take into account most games will last around 30 minutes. That's 1600 minutes, or 26.6 hours. Just to get 9 runes. (not taking fwotd into account)

Now this is assuming you actually win every game you play.

And don't even get me started on additional pages, 6300IP just for 1 additional page. Now of course you could spend money and get them, 2600(?)RP I believe. So basically $20 on a game that should be completely free to play, and not pay to win. Someone who has multiple rune pages set up for individual champions is of course going to win in a stat check matchup.

The rune system needs to be addressed in the preseason.

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Pierce The Veal2 votes

Shall I mention it costs around 6300 ip to get 4.5% lifesteal? Yes, 4.5% lifesteal is worth one 6300 champion.

Dovahkiin4162 votes

Exactly, so overpriced.

Pierce The Veal1 votes

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Exactly, so overpriced.

Yep :/

Dragfin1 votes

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I was just tabbing through the runes section of the shop, and I realized something. THEY ARE WAY OVERPRICED

For instance, specifically I was look at marks of armor pen. for a full set of them they cost 3600IP. 3600IP

Lets do some quick math shall we? Say you (somehow) win every game you play, you'll get an average of 100IP per win(depending on gametime). Take into account most games will last around 30 minutes. That's 1600 minutes, or 26.6 hours. Just to get 9 runes. (not taking fwotd into account)

Now this is assuming you actually win every game you play.

And don't even get me started on additional pages, 6300IP just for 1 additional page. Now of course you could spend money and get them, 2600(?)RP I believe. So basically $20 on a game that should be completely free to play, and not pay to win. Someone who has multiple rune pages set up for individual champions is of course going to win in a stat check matchup.

The rune system needs to be addressed in the preseason.

Compared to what? They are free.

Dovahkiin4161 votes

IP. Their IP costs are way too high.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

you can get runes that cost 1 IP

Dovahkiin4161 votes

Which are significantly less effective than the full priced runes, you will still be stat checked.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

they are 2/3rds of the tier 3 runes in stat wise... its better then nothing... and stat check me all you want ... you can use IP boost you can farm your bonus IP on 1st win of day bonuses by doing a quick 21 min co op game while you practice new champs or rune/mastery set ups

Dovahkiin4161 votes

Which costs real money. Better than nothing, yes, but still less impactful than overpriced tier 3 runes.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

but its a start... and you can get by with two basic pages

ad and ap

9 flat ad reds, 9 flat armor, 3 ad quints 9 flat mr

9 flat magic pen reds , 9 flat armor ,3 ap quints, and 9 flat mr

Dovahkiin4161 votes

You can "get by" but say if you play Jungle. You go for an invade on their buff, equal matchup champ wise.

Khazix vs. Rengar. Post lvl 6.

You, Kha'Zix have a basic AD page useful for most AD champs. 9 flat AD reds, 9 flat armor, 3 as quints, 9 flat mr.

Him, Rengar has multiple pages for different champs. His rengar page. 3 AD quints, 9 flat armor pen reds, 9 flat armor yellows, 9 scaling mr blues.

You get stat checked, you lose simply because of that.

(Rengar v. Kha'Zix is prob a bad example, but I just like the lore)

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

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You can "get by" but say if you play Jungle. You go for an invade on their buff, equal matchup champ wise.

Khazix vs. Rengar. Post lvl 6.

You, Kha'Zix have a basic AD page useful for most AD champs. 9 flat AD reds, 9 flat armor, 3 as quints, 9 flat mr.

Him, Rengar has multiple pages for different champs. His rengar page. 3 AD quints, 9 flat armor pen reds, 9 flat armor yellows, 9 scaling mr blues.

You get stat checked, you lose simply because of that.

(Rengar v. Kha'Zix is prob a bad example, but I just like the lore)

arm pen dont help clear jungle FACT ! therefor your better off using flat ad on ad junglers

Dovahkiin4161 votes

But it will help in their jungle battle. He'll have 12 armor pen against you.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

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But it will help in their jungle battle. He'll have 12 armor pen against you.

your not fighting each other in the jungle at early levels so it dont matter if you clear slower the enemy jungler will have more cs, more gold, more items, more lvls FACT

Dovahkiin4161 votes

Hence why I said "invade".

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

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Hence why I said "invade".

still lets say its a kha vs rengar one vs one on an invade and you are trying to kill him and not the buff... kha wins cuz of bonus damage from isolation

runes dont matter

Dovahkiin4161 votes

Precisely why I said "(Rengar V. Kha'Zix is probably a bad example, I just like the lore)"

Dovahkiin4161 votes

Plus if he's a decent Rengar with all those bushes nearby... Yanno what they say... "the tankiest champion is a Rengar with bushes" xD

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

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Plus if he's a decent Rengar with all those bushes nearby... Yanno what they say... "the tankiest champion is a Rengar with bushes" xD

also ad is better early game and armor pen is better late game.. so ill take Khazix with 15 flat ad , flat armor, flat mr with 18-12-0

taking fury, double edge sword, vampirism, oppressor, battering blows, warlords blood lust. in the 1st tree for my 18 and savagery , assassin, merciless , dangerous game

so bonus damage from passive of isolation.... bonus damage from double edge sword of +1.5 % net gain, +2.5% damage on oppressor, + 7% arm pen and the lifesteal dueling power of vamparism and warlords blood lust then the +2% damage from assassin + 5% damage on targets lower then 40% hp.

Dovahkiin4161 votes

I would much rather have Khazix with armor pen reds, and ad quints.

reducing an enemy jungler's armor by 12 is much better than having like 8.5 extra AD from reds. Not even a long sword.

And I actually go 12/18/0 with Kha, taking Thunderlords. And Bounty Hunter instead of Oppressor. I've found great success with it.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

that dont help you in an early invade situation where you are dueling 1 vs 1

Dragfin1 votes

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IP. Their IP costs are way too high.

Compared to what?

Dovahkiin4161 votes

Compared to the amount of IP you get per/game

Dragfin1 votes

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Compared to the amount of IP you get per/game

How does that comparison work because it makes no sense to me? It's all free from playing the game.

Now if you are an entitled POS that needs everything handed them immediately with little to no work then I understand and you can go on your pathetic way and deal with the same thing that everyone deals with and earns.

Dovahkiin4161 votes

Are you dumb? Go back and read my post again.

Here's the short version. Runes are too expensive, and it takes way too long to accumulate the IP needed to fill a decent page.

What's worse is that you only get 2 base pages, you can again grind 6300IP for one more page, or pay and get like 7 for $20. Which will give you more pages for specific champs, so you can easily stat check anyone who doesn't have the money to buy more pages for individual champs, and waste $20 on something that should be free.

Runes are too expensive. Pages should be free/way less expensive.

Or increase IP gains, either way, the system is flawed.

Dragfin1 votes

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Are you dumb? Go back and read my post again.

Here's the short version. Runes are too expensive, and it takes way too long to accumulate the IP needed to fill a decent page.

What's worse is that you only get 2 base pages, you can again grind 6300IP for one more page, or pay and get like 7 for $20. Which will give you more pages for specific champs, so you can easily stat check anyone who doesn't have the money to buy more pages for individual champs, and waste $20 on something that should be free.

Runes are too expensive. Pages should be free/way less expensive.

Or increase IP gains, either way, the system is flawed.

Free is free. I'm not the dumb one. Or the entitled one. Thanks for answering my question about that. At least I know what type of person I am dealing with now.

You get two rune pages. You put basic AD runes in one and basic AP runes in the other. Both can be finished by level 30 along with a few champs. You get more shit by playing the game. It takes time. You want it now. ENTITLED! You are not special.

Dovahkiin4161 votes

Bruh... What you don't get is you can pay to get more pages early.... And have more pages for specific champions..

Dragfin1 votes

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Bruh... What you don't get is you can pay to get more pages early.... And have more pages for specific champions..

I know this and have done that and not paid a dime to do it. It's called playing the game and earning it. As you play IP adds up and you buy shit. You are saying that they are expensive but there is nothing you can compare the cost with because they are free. You pay for them with time invested.

You are suggesting that RIOT needs to give them all to you right now and anything short of that you will go mad.

Earn your shit like a lot of us do or pay for them with real money. It's that simple.

Dovahkiin4161 votes

WHAT IM SAYING IS PEOPLE CAN BUY THEM EARLY MAKING THEM PAY TO WIN

READ WHAT I TYPE

Dragfin1 votes

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WHAT IM SAYING IS PEOPLE CAN BUY THEM EARLY MAKING THEM PAY TO WIN

READ WHAT I TYPE

You can't buy runes with money. You can only buy pages with money. Also you can't buy level 3 runes till 20 or 21 unless they changed that.

READ THE RULES PERTAINING TO RUNES

There is nothing about this game that makes it pay to win.

Dovahkiin4161 votes

Oh my god.... YOU CAN BUY RUNE PAGES WITH MONEY.

Making it easier to have a certain rune page for a certain champ.

It is a small advantage, but its an advantage nonetheless.

Dragfin1 votes

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Oh my god.... YOU CAN BUY RUNE PAGES WITH MONEY.

Making it easier to have a certain rune page for a certain champ.

It is a small advantage, but its an advantage nonetheless.

Many people have made it far in this game with 2 rune pages. My nephew made plat 1 before he quit playing. Keep reaching, entitled one.

Dovahkiin4161 votes

Okay? I'm not saying its impossible to not climb with 2 pages.

I'm saying that paying for more rune pages is a p2w advantage over those who can't.

They get their rune pages soooo much faster by just buying extra pages. Its an advantage given by paying, instead of grinding,

Dragfin1 votes

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Okay? I'm not saying its impossible to not climb with 2 pages.

I'm saying that paying for more rune pages is a p2w advantage over those who can't.

They get their rune pages soooo much faster by just buying extra pages. Its an advantage given by paying, instead of grinding,

You need serious help.

Dovahkiin4161 votes

You're honestly so ignorant.

Literally like talking to wall.

Dragfin1 votes

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You're honestly so ignorant.

Literally like talking to wall.

What does your title say? Then you change your path.

I am not the ignorant one.

You need serious help child.

Dovahkiin4161 votes

That they are too expensive? Which they are?

Then I expand upon that saying you can pay to easily get more rune pages? Instead of PLAYING THE GAME to actually EARN THEM?

Dragfin1 votes

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That they are too expensive? Which they are?

Then I expand upon that saying you can pay to easily get more rune pages? Instead of PLAYING THE GAME to actually EARN THEM?

I could have earned a whole rune page but instead I wasted my time arguing with an entitled person. Won't make that mistake anymore.

Dovahkiin4161 votes

So ignorant, every time I make a valid argument that beats yours. You change the subject.

You can pay to get more rune pages, while others have to grind for them. You get an advantage easier, and earlier than others. Making it slightly p2w.

Get off of my post dumbass

Dragfin1 votes

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So ignorant, every time I make a valid argument that beats yours. You change the subject.

You can pay to get more rune pages, while others have to grind for them. You get an advantage easier, and earlier than others. Making it slightly p2w.

Get off of my post dumbass

Please make up your mind on what you are talking about. I can't argue when you change what you are talking about each and every post. Also your posts border on harassment now because you are an immature child who can't argue without calling people names. Have a nice day. You are not worth my time anymore.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

runes are free they cost no money what so ever.

Dovahkiin4161 votes

More rune pages costs more money, unless you want to spend 100+ hours grinding for enough pages. Someone who has specific runes for a specific champion will stat check anyone who has the typical AD and AP pages.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

hmm not an issue , i have 20 full rune pages... and i have runes i dont even use

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