Seriously most matches are decided pre-15 minutes
when you're down by 7 kills and youre 2 levels behind across the board pre 15 chances are you're not coming back(especially in low elo we're simply not good enough to make necessary outplays) the game just generally just snowballs further and you get stomped for 7 minute
I have won and lost games prior to 20 minutes (17 minutes was the earliest i think) if your able to do that the ff time should really be lowered
Jack º3 votesI was thinking this exact thing!! they want to make the games shorter, make the surrender vote shorter
Dragfin2 votesCan we get rid of surrender altogether and make people play better or suffer? Stop using it as a crutch and get better so you don't have to use it.
arc951 votesCan we get rid of surrender altogether and make people play better or suffer? Stop using it as a crutch and get better so you don't have to use it.
ya lets not do that... surrender @ 20(or 15 :P) or play a 55 minute game that you really had no shot at winning yes you can pull out some hugh upset but not practical... if you behind in every way and the enemy has a far superior late game comp
Dragfin1 votesya lets not do that... surrender @ 20(or 15 :P) or play a 55 minute game that you really had no shot at winning yes you can pull out some hugh upset but not practical... if you behind in every way and the enemy has a far superior late game comp
You also missed the whole point. Also typical.
RisenDarkKnight1 votesPlaying League isn't signing up for the LCS. The point of the game is to have fun, not to get better at winning. What's wrong with trying to surrender and start a new game if you're getting crushed and not having fun? Would it really make you happy to know that thousands of random strangers were "suffering" because they have to play out every game where they are losing horribly at 20 minutes?
Dragfin1 votesPlaying League isn't signing up for the LCS. The point of the game is to have fun, not to get better at winning. What's wrong with trying to surrender and start a new game if you're getting crushed and not having fun? Would it really make you happy to know that thousands of random strangers were "suffering" because they have to play out every game where they are losing horribly at 20 minutes?
You missed the whole point. But typical.
Azure Hamster2 votesThe game we were down 4-21 that we came back to win (without dcs or afks) cured me of ever surrendering.
arc951 votes[{quoted}](name=Azure Hamster,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=YEcdWKvR,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-11-18T21:39:36.215+0000)
The game we were down 4-21 that we came back to win (without dcs or afks) cured me of ever surrendering.
there are games were it just isnt practical and im talking more in the normals sense too :P
RisenDarkKnight1 votesSurrendering for me isn't about winning or losing. I've had plenty of 4 v 5/comeback wins (as we all have). It's more about fun. If I'm not having fun that game (usually because we are getting crushed or something) then I'll want to surrender even if there is some chance we can win. League is a game, a duo who never surrenders shouldn't be able to hold a team hostage in a stomp because there is a .1% chance they can win after the enemy team has take all 3 inhibitors and is dancing inside your base but not attacking your nexus towers.
Azure Hamster1 votesLeague is a game, a duo who never surrenders shouldn't be able to hold a team hostage in a stomp because there is a .1% chance they can win after the enemy team has take all 3 inhibitors and is dancing inside your base but not attacking your nexus towers.
And that happens SOOO often.
Best Valor NA2 votesI would be okay with a 15 min surrender time if your team had an AFK, because nearly no one likes to play with afks. Also, if you offer a surrender and the vote is 3/1 and one person doesnt vote, I think that should count for surrender...
RisenDarkKnight2 votesAlso, can we get surrender at 10 minutes if we have an afk/DC? Dawngate (RIP), gave the option for super early surrenders in the case of 4 v 5s or large kill disparities. IMO you shoudl be able to surrender early if it is 20 to 0 at 8 minutes. Just because the enemy team can win quickly with that lead doesn't mean they will. They can just dick around farming up their builds and just towerdiving you without actually pushing your base and you just have to wait for 20 minutes. Just because people can surrender early doesn't mean it will be used everygame, especially in ranked.