@Lyte, I am not going to play until you take that LeaverBuster warning out of my face.

Your wording should reflect that, when asking players to click "I agree" for LeaverBuster.

If the problem is players leaving games while getting upset why are people who have client issues, storm outages, real life emergencies, or things beyond their control being targeted? Also I've never had a problem with my internet, that isn't the issue.. the problem is patch updates that effect people. For instance, being stuck on champ select while the game already started or bug splat. Those are client issues people get tarted with that is on Riots side no matter how many times they do the client fix or reinstall the game.

People can have constant problems with client issues.. Every other game someone has a problem with something, high ping spikes, client freezes or crashes or can't relog in meanwhile skype, raidcall, youtube, etc work perfectly fine with no spike in latency.

An Example: My job where I work sometimes will call me in early a couple times a week, Sometimes i'll be in the middle of a game and I'll get a call where they say we need you to come in now or asap. Meaning now I have to get ready as quick as possible and get to work, I don't have time to finish the game. Does this mean I should never play league of legends because my job calling me in early is unpredictable? That sounds pretty stupid...

How about when the you lose power , or have to restart your computer or client crashes and takes you a few minutes to get back in game? You're already flagged by leave buster even though you get back in game and go 17-3-10 and get honored by your team mates? Why should that person get suspended even tho he didn't intend to leave the game and still made a come back that their team is happy with?

A Flawed system is a flawed system.

If you really want to just target ragers and afkers who get mad then make the option available to the people it effects "Your team". Id your idle for more then w/e leave buster is set to, give an option at the end of the game for your team to decide rather if was intentional or beyond their control. That way people don't get caught up in this flawed system that suspends everyone instead of the exact words you said: "The problem of players leaving games isn't caused by players having emergencies ... it's happening because people get upset, and they ragequit or afk" The leave buster can't tell if it is intentionally or without control and it sure as hell doesn't account for people who logg back in and win the game, it only registers the time a person is idle for and that's it.

I've been in games where my team is winning and I tell my team "Hey, I just got called into work i'm sorry.. is it cool if I leave?" and sometimes they will be ok with it, yet I still get flagged by leave buster. The only people it effects is my team, not the other team and if my team is ok with it why would I still get flagged?

You said that you only get suspended for constantly leaving, well sometimes things constantly happen in life or constantly screw up with your client and it is enough to get suspended. You can't use your own experience as to why no one should leave games but only a few times a year because not everyone is you and some people have more problems or different lifestyles then you do.

Imagine if our world was ran by a system where there is no accountability for action taken against people for what it does and doesn't take into account anything other than what is was designed for.

Let's be honest, what is Riots intentions with leave buster? Because you cannot deny that majority of people have client and server issues that is on Riots side not theirs.

I'd also like to see that there is a way to check your status of left games and how many games you would have to play for it fall off, I think playing 10 games should be enough for 1 afk/leave should fall off because if you expect someone to play 50 to 100 games without having a problem then eventually their account would get banned because it happens more to some people then others.

We know that acts of God happen.

Then change the message to something along the lines of "I will not voluntarily leave a game outside of unexpected emergencies." Because the current message doesn't allow for exceptions.

Yeah I just got this for the first time as well. My internet went down for like 10-15 minutes or something and I came back, completed the game, and got the pop up. Typing "I agree" to not leaving is talking down on people and pretty much a shltty way of phrasing your prompt. It needs to be changed, period. Not all of us are leavers/afkers in this game and don't need to be talked to as such. It's called tact.

We know that acts of God happen. In a real life emergency ... PLEASE GET TO SAFETY. I've been playing online games for 15 years, and in all those years, I've had to immediately leave the computer for an emergency a small handful of times. The problem of players leaving games isn't caused by players having emergencies ... it's happening because people get upset, and they ragequit or afk.

By the way, in the 5 years I've been playing League, I've had an internet / computer related leave maybe 10 times. Your mileage may vary, but again, we're not focused on the occasional incident, we're focusing on the constant.

We know that. We appreciate what you guys are doing. It is absolutely the correct direction. The wording though, man...come on! You guys can do better.

We know that acts of God happen. In a real life emergency ... PLEASE GET TO SAFETY. I've been playing online games for 15 years, and in all those years, I've had to immediately leave the computer for an emergency a small handful of times. The problem of players leaving games isn't caused by players having emergencies ... it's happening because people get upset, and they ragequit or afk.

By the way, in the 5 years I've been playing League, I've had an internet / computer related leave maybe 10 times. Your mileage may vary, but again, we're not focused on the occasional incident, we're focusing on the constant.

Tell me why I got the warning today after a game in which I did not leave, had no disconnections and was not AFK at any point?

After you tell me that, tell me who the mental midget was that worded that warning? Because it's basically the video game equivalent of a forced confession. I HAVE to agree that I did something wrong, even if I didn't OR ELSE I don't get to play. I cannot tell you how incredibly unprofessional that is. I can't believe a group of educated, creative people like those who work for Riot read that message and said, "Yep, holding them hostage, that's the way to go!" The only message being sent to new players, is you guys are bullies, and bad at your jobs.

We know that acts of God happen. In a real life emergency ... PLEASE GET TO SAFETY. I've been playing online games for 15 years, and in all those years, I've had to immediately leave the computer for an emergency a small handful of times. The problem of players leaving games isn't caused by players having emergencies ... it's happening because people get upset, and they ragequit or afk.

By the way, in the 5 years I've been playing League, I've had an internet / computer related leave maybe 10 times. Your mileage may vary, but again, we're not focused on the occasional incident, we're focusing on the constant.

Then why does this binding contract show up on the first time you have the problem forcing you to SWEAR that you will NEVER AGAIN leave a game?

Ya know what, nevermind... I think I'm done with this genre competitively. I enjoy it, but the developers of these games are so obsessed with enabling the people who take these games WAY too seriously and I simply can't support that.

Leavers are not a problem, even people who have repeated issues caused by situations outside of their control. What are the problem are the people who do it intentionally, even once. What matters are THOSE people.

I don't CARE if someone disconnects from every game I play for the rest of my life due to situations outside of their control. Literally, I do not care in the least bit. That's fine. If I get the horrible luck of having someone in EVERY SINGLE GAME I play from now on who has a household emergency, power outage, or other issue, that's perfectly okay with me. I don't want those people getting punished, they've done nothing wrong.

There are two things I want:

1. I want you guys(and Blizzard, etc.) to stop enabling the people who have their priorities in all the wrong place. Did you SEE the horrible comments people made in your initial thread? You guys are enabling that attitude. You're supporting it. Congratulations. You guys are helping people justify the fact that they rage over people leaving a game to take care of their sick wife. You guys are helping people justify the people who say blanket statements like 'if you think you might have any potential internet problems, don't play at all'. You guys are acting as the worst kind of enabler.
2. I want you guys to build systems that target people who do things intentionally to show their disrespect for their fellow players.

That's all. But apparently you guys don't care. And it sickens me. You can check my game history. I have played a few bot games and a few teambuilder since you announced this system. And that's the way it's going to stay. There will be no more ~hundreds of dollars per year flowing into you guys, no more me playing hundreds of games per season(if not thousands), no more of me championing you guys and defending you to people who try to exaggerate the game's flaws, and no more of me defending this community... because you guys have shown me that YOU are perfectly happy enabling people to treat others poorly over issues beyond their control(hell you even WANT them to do so since you're PUNISHING the people they want to mistreat), that you guys are perfectly happy enabling this incredibly unhealthy attitude and prioritization LoL has taken in peoples' lives... and because the community has shown that this is what they want from you.

And that has opened my eyes.

And I'm disappointed by what I see. Damn, Ignorance really is bliss.

We know that acts of God happen. In a real life emergency ... PLEASE GET TO SAFETY. I've been playing online games for 15 years, and in all those years, I've had to immediately leave the computer for an emergency a small handful of times. The problem of players leaving games isn't caused by players having emergencies ... it's happening because people get upset, and they ragequit or afk.

By the way, in the 5 years I've been playing League, I've had an internet / computer related leave maybe 10 times. Your mileage may vary, but again, we're not focused on the occasional incident, we're focusing on the constant.

You didn't answer the point, which is that people have to agree to never leave a game again, which is impossible.

i understand the way you guys run it and everything but i am on call 24/7 and i have to take care of my dying step father so these games are my bright light ive invested so much money and try not to leave as much as possible but ive already been banned for a day and got this same popup. idk maybe if it the amount of time since you last left a game was changed to the amount of games you play scince you last left cause when im not busy i play constantly but shit happens.

I think you have the wrong 420noscopes. Sorry bro ;)

This initiative is being "forced" on us because leavers / afk's were one of the biggest complaints players had. Seriously, it felt like every riot post by lyte was followed up by comments about afkers. They're trying to reduce the amount of chronic afkers with this update.

The warning pops up after your first leave, but bans don't happen unless you're consistently leaving. The warning is just that, a warning. There is literally no punishment for that first leave. It's worded the way it is to discourage people from rage quitting before having to resort to bans.

dude he doesn't have a point he's using the assumption that if he leaves again ever he will be banned when this is just a warning showed that leaving a lot of games can get you banned. As someone else already mentioned that this warning is shown the first time you afk or leave and unless you afk or leave a lot you won't be banned and if you have that many emergency situations or whatever and leave so many games you shouldn't really mind getting banend because they would have plausable cause to ban you and you would have more important stuff to do. I even had a period where I had to leave about 1 every 3 games or more for like 30 games because my mom doesn't understand online games can't be paused and I've never even been given a temporary ban.

so as a summary.

1. He won't be banned unless he leaves a lot of games consistently. So the occasional emergancy situations shouldn't get you banned and as mentioned if you have a lot of emergancy situations the fact is your still leaving a lot and you shouldn't care about a small temp bann if you left that many times for so many emergencies.
2. this is a warning message shown to people in general not to say you'll be banned if you ever afk again but mroe to say if you do leave on a consistent basis you can be banned so try and not form a habit.

and since the point of this post was it's not fair to be banned for 1 emergency situation and that leaver buster shouldn't accuse target him. (which it's really not since it's given generally to everyone and you have to leave a lot more games then 1 to be banned.)

no actually, that wasn't the point of his post at all. The point of his post was that the message he received is asking him to make a commitment he cannot in good conscence make since it involves things outside his control, and will not allow him to play unless he makes that commitment.

That is his problem. He's not 'afraid to be banned', he just values his word and is being asked to knowingly lie in order to play LoL.

What if the tape breaks?

And I think, regardless of how strongly we each feel about it, we can certainly agree that having our concerns over the issue dismissed is not part of the goal.

That certainly isn't the impression I've gotten from Riot's responses to people regarding this whole mess... prior to this I'd have agreed with you on that... but they've been absurdly dismissive(and in some cases blatantly insulting to people) over issues relating to the new leaverbuster that I don't think I can agree with this.