Ok. It is patient. It takes more than 2 games to give someone that warning. I was chat restricted today. I had to see it for myself. No one can ever complain again about this algorithm. Only VERY toxic behavior will fall into it.
TlT1T1T1T1T1TlT2 votesWhat leads to it? Excessive swearing?
Abracadaba1 votesNot necessarily. From my perspective, it is a simple system composed of different routines. Like some people observed on this topic, players can get a lot of warnings until they even get the chat restriction. In my case, if you look at my last 2 games that led to my chat restriction, I barely said any swear word, maybe I didn't even say any at all.
What triggered the routine was the fact that I was reported by an overwhelming number of players on that particular last game (maybe the other overall small number of reports that I had from previous games was also considered in order to validate my chat restriction).
I was playing mid and started to challenge my opposite mid lane by saying on /all chat that I was going to win, that he was a loser and bla bla bla. Everything escalated and their team started to be really united by my approach. I lost my lane, got ganked by their jungle and support several times. In addition, people on my team lost their lanes, so they all had a common purpose at that point: blame me. Once the game was over I got the chat restriction right way. It is clearly an automated system.
I think it is fair, because what is the odds of someone being reported by almost everyone else on that match. This simple trigger makes everything relatively fair. Questionable, but fair. There is no artificial intelligence or anything more elaborated taking place on the chat restriction routine. It is probably just a rudimentary workflow that check your standing and the number of reports. Very basic and cheap, but interesting.
If I had to improve something, I would remove some hard coded phrases that just increase maintenance cost (and subjugate the reader's intelligence) and I would include the complete chat transcript (not just what the restricted person said) so they would have a chance to understand in context what they did.
So long story short, I don't think excessive swearing is a major factor, but perception is reality, sooo, if those other 9 people feel like you are being disrespectful, you will get the restriction even if you didn't use any bad words. Bad behavior will get caught - Yes for sure. Some outliars and minorities that should have their view protected will be caught as well - Yes for sure.
lolptwo1 votes"Only VERY toxic behavior will fall into it." - THIS
Is the exact problem with it, only VERY toxic behavior will fall into it, or very toxic for x amount of games in a row. People who are toxic and extremely toxic in 1 game are NOT punished. and that's a massive issue.
4thHorsman1 votes"Only VERY toxic behavior will fall into it." - THIS
Is the exact problem with it, only VERY toxic behavior will fall into it, or very toxic for x amount of games in a row. People who are toxic and extremely toxic in 1 game are NOT punished. and that's a massive issue.
I disagree, if someone is having a super bad day and play a match and become toxic they shouldn't get a restriction for just one match. Yes it is wrong, and yes it is unacceptable behavior, but to impose a punishment for having one match where you lose your mind is not the way to go. Give them a warning after that one match sure, but a chat restriction is way too far for having a single match where you are toxic.
lolptwo1 votesI disagree to your disagreement. People should have to face consequences to their actions, similar to how in real life if you're having a bad day, and you have an outburst, it can cost you your job. A fine, a penalty, a criminal offence. There is plenty of ways to handle stress, go to the gym, take a walk, punching bags. Going online and abusing people is not acceptable. There should be punishments depending on severity or else your system will be abused. If you're making racist, homophobic, death threat, cancer wishes, anything that could cause someone else into having a bad day. You are thus spreading your toxicity and should face immediate consequences, this will overall improve League's communities attitude, even I have successfully exploited their justice system, many many many times.
4thHorsman1 votesI disagree to your disagreement. People should have to face consequences to their actions, similar to how in real life if you're having a bad day, and you have an outburst, it can cost you your job. A fine, a penalty, a criminal offence. There is plenty of ways to handle stress, go to the gym, take a walk, punching bags. Going online and abusing people is not acceptable. There should be punishments depending on severity or else your system will be abused. If you're making racist, homophobic, death threat, cancer wishes, anything that could cause someone else into having a bad day. You are thus spreading your toxicity and should face immediate consequences, this will overall improve League's communities attitude, even I have successfully exploited their justice system, many many many times.
Death threats, racist/homophobic slurs, cancer wishes, etc., I agree with you on, those are the very extreme level of toxic and should come with an instant chat restriction followed by a ban if it happens again. What I am referring to is the vanilla toxicity of just being an asshole to people.
And in a workplace if it is legitimately your first time ever having an outburst like that (like I was saying with your first time being toxic) you would not lose your job. You would at most get written up, which is similar to getting the behavior warning. Any times past the first time then there would be the possibility of restriction.
lolptwo1 votesThe difference between being written up and in League is that i've seen people get upwards of 20 warnings without a ban, warnings are very vague and are just based off the number of times you've been reported, not the severity or level of toxicity you're at.
What they need is to show that they know how toxic you've been and are watching your account closely, no toxic player out there takes warnings seriously. You can easily get 20 warnings and never face bans
4thHorsman1 votesThe difference between being written up and in League is that i've seen people get upwards of 20 warnings without a ban, warnings are very vague and are just based off the number of times you've been reported, not the severity or level of toxicity you're at.
What they need is to show that they know how toxic you've been and are watching your account closely, no toxic player out there takes warnings seriously. You can easily get 20 warnings and never face bans
Which is a problem, I totally agree with you on that. But punishing a person for their VERY FIRST infraction, which is what we have been talking about, is not fair. 20 infractions is a totally different argument and should totally be dealt with harshly.
SmokedAlmonds1 votesWhich is a problem, I totally agree with you on that. But punishing a person for their VERY FIRST infraction, which is what we have been talking about, is not fair. 20 infractions is a totally different argument and should totally be dealt with harshly.
So you don't think there is anything bad enough that they should get punished for their first offense?
A lot of punishments are for frequent mild infractions. So that I am fine with those individual incidents not being punished. But I definitely think there are some things that should instantly punish players, like racism for example.
4thHorsman1 votesSo you don't think there is anything bad enough that they should get punished for their first offense?
A lot of punishments are for frequent mild infractions. So that I am fine with those individual incidents not being punished. But I definitely think there are some things that should instantly punish players, like racism for example.
Like I said before, things like homophobic/racist slurs, death threats, telling others to kill themselves, calling others autistic or similar things, should all be met with an instant chat restriction at the least if not a ban, without a warning.
Abracadaba1 votesNot necessarily. I finished my 10 games chat restriction yesterday and posted some further explanation on this topic. I think you don't have to worry anymore man. I gave up. I will comply to their norms and just have fun, because I love the game. Don't stress yourself too much, it is not worth it.
raechuul1 votesI have super toxic people in my games every. Single. Day. And I have only ever had one notification that says my tribunal case worked.
Today I got my first chat ban because I defended myself in a few of those games where super toxic people were constantly attacking everyone. I don't think it's fair and maybe I shouldn't buy RP anymore... I get chat banned for defending myself but people say racial slurs and other horrible things in game and they get to walk away? I'm upset with that system.
Melledoneus1 votesIt isn't fair when I'm in champion select and I call "mid" just for me to get spontaneously chat restricted for a full minute so I don't get my role...