When your champ gets banned and your teams reason is....

DemonBoneJangles·Feb 5, 2016·4 votes·1,385 views

ok so pick intent works lovely... until your own team bans the champ you picked and their reason for doing so is because players of that champ are feeders. now logic dictates not all players are the same with every champ. but hey that's just me, I understand new champ bans are high as well however regardless of the champs release date and weither others think a champion is garbage or not that doesn't excuse the reasoning that everyone playing that champ will feed or be a troll. Opinions in the boxes below, id like to hear others thoughts on this matter because honestly I'm not mad just shocked that people find that a legitimate reason for denying someone the right to play a champion even though they have done nothing to any player involved aside from picking their intent

17 Comments

l Helios lFeb 5, 20162 votes

I had a game earlier today where a guy did that. Argued Jhin players are bad and he didn't want me to be bad on him.

Although I guess it was for the best since I picked another champ and got asked by the enemy team if I was scripting.

That reasoning though is dumb. You always ban things that can solo carry based on whatever the champion does.

DemonBoneJanglesFeb 6, 20161 votes

its hard with new champions because everyone is in the learning phase and some people take longer than others, now ive argued this point before. BOTS can only teach you so much and they are not a good gauge of your actual skill with a champion, ive done poorly in bots only to be a beast against players and vice versa when people say go play bots I tell them it wont teach me anything new I haven't learned in a custom match

cuddlykitten4Feb 6, 20161 votes

fuck bots. Never used em. I only play them if I have a friend who is brand new that is on their bot matches. I only do that so I can carry it for them quickly so I can start teaching them the real game. Bots teach you bad habits, and don't force you to break outside of your box. They don't force you to learn how to build the toon because you have no true challenge presented that forces you to truly question what item you need because the wrong item will lose the game. There is no danger in a bot match. Danger is what creates greatness. Danger is what shows you what you can truly do. Like people who say they play bots to learn how to cs with a champ. That's cute....what are you gonna do when there's someone beating you up every time you go in for a minion? Didn't have to figure that part out did we? Welcome back to square one. Time to learn how to cs.

LegacianFeb 6, 20161 votes

It really depends on the circumstances. If it's a normal and everyone is just there to have fun, you can play any champion in any role. I won't care... but if we're in a serious (/ranked) game, or you've got a bad attitude about it (ergo "I'm a god with <enter champion name>." "Uh, I'm going <enter champion name>. Deal with it." etc) you aren't going to get that champion. If it's off-meta: I don't care if it works. I don't care if you can successfully pull it off. Nothing you could ever say will change my mind. If it's a ranked game, I don't want you playing AP Tryndamere jungle. If it's a new champion: No, you do not know how to play that champion, I know that for a fact. Let's say you do. You still have not had near the amount of time needed to become sufficiently good at that champion... and placed against someone who may potentially main their pick, you will not succeed.

DemonBoneJanglesFeb 6, 20161 votes

normally I would agree with you, this was a normal game but it was draft which in my interpretation of the mode is semi-competitive because it prepares people for ranked. I myself don't play ranked without a team, no way no how will I ever be stuck with people who don't know how I play in a ranked game it throws my whole balance off, but to the point. I agree wholeheartedly with you but in this case telling someone they cant play a champion because "All <champion name> players are garbage and feed" isn't a valid reason to not allow someone to either learn or improve on a champion they don't know as well as others. again bots can only teach so much because they have a very predictable patter and it cant teach you anything about jungle at all

EX: I played a bot match as shaco who I know very little of gameplay wise and went 34/4/3 in a pvp match it would look the opposite 4/10/12 bots are too easy even on the hardest difficulty thus pvp is the only way to truly learn anything useful about a champion new or not

cuddlykitten4Feb 6, 20161 votes

Lol, last season I bought maokai. I have a tendency to just buy champs that I'm interested in with the intention of getting around to them later. It wasn't until preseason when I started trying to get all my champs to at least Mastery 1 that I played him in a normal (still my only normal maokai game). However, last season I did pick him in several ranked games. The first time I picked him in a ranked game was literally the first time I ever played him. I only picked him on a whim with no logical reasoning to it whatsoever. I proceed to go something along the lines of 15/3/15 and win the game. I picked him several more times in ranked throughout the season just because of that, but I never played him in normals. I had a 100% win rate with maokai last season. Sometimes champs you don't know will still TREEt you well :) lol

LegacianFeb 7, 20161 votes

I agree with that mentality, it's more just that at this point Riot can't do much about it. It's up to the players. Even with new champion select, if your team doesn't want you going a certain champion or role, you're at their mercy. That also is a great forewarning to how the game will probably go if you stick with that team. What CuddlyKitten said to me was true to an extent, but I don't typically let it bother me unless that person is just downright rude and uncooperative about it. In terms of trying to go a certain champion, I think he does have some credence that players do tend to place blame on the person that went Yorick jungle (me), regardless of how well they did, simply because those players have a biased opinion of that champion. It also puts pressure on that person to do well, and creates a lot of tension between the teams. There needs to be a gamemode specifically titled and meant for going whatever you want, where meta doesn't apply. That's what I think.

cuddlykitten4Feb 6, 20161 votes

You're the kind of player that I hate to have on my team. It's always a red flag to me that says "This guy is going to blame everyone else for everything that goes wrong. Most likely he will throw the game on us at some point due to raging for no reason whatsoever."

LegacianFeb 7, 20161 votes

Because I don't want people doing stupid things? Like I said, in normals, I couldn't care less about what you do or how well you do it. If we're just screwing around and having fun, don't expect me to lash out at all. Even if I do get tilted, I'll usually keep it to myself in normals. The issue comes where that "having fun" changes to someone who refuses to listen or cooperate because this is "their" champion or "their" role and they "know what they're doing." I don't mind you playing something off meta or a new champion, so long as we're in normals and having fun. It's when people get a bad attitude about it or try to pull that s- in ranked that I'll say something about it.

Ap Mid BurstFeb 8, 20161 votes

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It really depends on the circumstances. If it's a normal and everyone is just there to have fun, you can play any champion in any role. I won't care... but if we're in a serious (/ranked) game, or you've got a bad attitude about it (ergo "I'm a god with <enter champion name>." "Uh, I'm going <enter champion name>. Deal with it." etc) you aren't going to get that champion. If it's off-meta: I don't care if it works. I don't care if you can successfully pull it off. Nothing you could ever say will change my mind. If it's a ranked game, I don't want you playing AP Tryndamere jungle. If it's a new champion: No, you do not know how to play that champion, I know that for a fact. Let's say you do. You still have not had near the amount of time needed to become sufficiently good at that champion... and placed against someone who may potentially main their pick, you will not succeed. If they want to play a champion, banning them would be a mean move and will just put them on tilt and make them play worse

ZT XperimentorFeb 6, 20161 votes

Yeah, that and flat out ignorance; it's incredible just how unobservant people can be.

Big LincolnFeb 6, 20161 votes

gonna have to accept that jhin is going to be banned in ranked for the first few weeks

rightly so; i have no reason to trust that you'll do well with a brand new champion

DemonBoneJanglesFeb 6, 20161 votes

I agree I have no reason to trust youll do well, that's fine however. given that the two pvp gamemodes are draft and blind and blind you pretty much need to speed lock your lane and champ and hope you did it fast enough draft is now the main learning area aside from bots, whish in my opinion and the opinions of others are not good at teaching you much of anything. yes I know he will be banned but I wasn't trying to play jhin, but yes I understand that certain champs will be banned regardless

RAT IN GAME UwU Feb 7, 20161 votes

let me guess you picked yasuo and they banned yasuo

DemonBoneJanglesFeb 7, 20161 votes

lol, I cant play yasuo to save my life, then again I also played yasuo support before everyone thought it was "acceptable"

UirayaFeb 7, 20161 votes

If your champ was Jhin then no you were wrong

I wouldn't ban him, I'd just dodge. Anyone wanting to play Jhin in ranked right now is not playing to win, so wasting a ban is a waste of time when they're going to be playing suboptimally anyway. Any victories I've seen him get are due to absolute teamwide roflstomps so harsh that he could have just as easily afk'd for the same result.

Wait for the inevitable ridiculous overbuff (and/or for people to learn how to play him hahahahahahahaha like this would ever happen).

DemonBoneJanglesFeb 7, 20161 votes

I wouldn't necessarily dodge, but at the same time id be watching them and if we made it to 15 or 20 and we were getting stomped I mean bad stomped not we can still make a comeback stomped, then id explain we are losing and hope they surrender, as it is ive unfortunately been reported more in the preseason since teambuilders removal than I have in my entire time playing leagues (late S3) however that's likely because of the above problem of people having pre judged you without looking at. A. my profile, B. my champion list, And C. my most played champs, im not the best but I do like to win even with off meta pics