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BadmoonBC2 votes

Saw a Nami mid with ludens lichbane and shit the other day in one of my normal games. He was plat1. Our midlane viktor was bronze 1. By the end of the game viktor was wanting to try out mid lane Nami due to its op-ness

Seriously tho, shit was hilarious. Fish was so fast she looked like she was swimming

LostFr0st1 votes

Congrats^^

Yup, I have a question: How many E buffs does it take for you to decide whether to put it on you or your adc in lane? Or do you simply wait for their attack particle to be in the air?

Deep Terror Nami3 votes

The decision to put it on me or the carry is dependent on who can get the most of them off on a relevant target. I do try to reactively place it on my ADC when he goes in to poke, but I don't always wait until his auto is guaranteed; he may need my speed boost to get it off. Placing it after his attack has left is just a nice surprise for the enemy. The cost is low enough to not be upset if he doesn't follow up every time.

LostFr0st1 votes

Gotchu, thx a bunch.[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Unstoppable Monk1 votes

How to AP non-support Nami? I want to hit lanes with Japan-destroying waves. How to ADC Nami? I need something to make people salty with ADC builds and I'm getting bored.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

I don't think he plays those

Deep Terror Nami3 votes

It's ok I can talk out my blowhole :3

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

If you really want to play Mage Nami I'd get her some bulk with RoA or Seraph's and burst with Luden's. She's really immobile and squishy so needs some protection to not stay in the very back. CS'ing is really difficult but you don't want to spend Aqua Prison on waveclear.

Never tried AD Nami, but Guinsoo's would probably be a good option since it solves her waveclearing problem. Her poke is all about weaving autoattacks in between her spells, but I think they are too long of CD's (~10sec each) to efficiently use Sheen items; I'd pick up BotRK, Hurricane if no Guinsoo's.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

You're about twice as far on Nami as I am on Quinn. So much for me making one of these! :P

QuantumLight1 votes

What do you find is the easiest match up for nami and her hardest?

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Easiest; Janna, Kog'maw Hardest; Leona, Lucian

Janna just can't win in poking or sustain against me. Her teamfighting is really strong since she makes her team slippery and hard to pin down, but in lane it's easy. Kog'maw is just a sitting duck for my Aqua Prison.

Leona is kind of terrifying. Normally I can poke a melee down easy, but I'm so squishy I'm almost guaranteed to die every Zenith Blade. Lucian and other fast ADC's are just hard to hit with Aqua Prison. Kalista is the hardest, but only after she gets some attack speed.

resumed1 votes

normally when i face a leona i wait until she uses zenith blade to use aqua prison, it stops her combo pretty fast and if you're quick enough it'll hit before she can stun them and it ends her combo then and there

it doesn't prevent a whole lot of damage because you're trapping leona over the enemy adc, but it's a whole lot better than having leona hold the adc hostage and risking missing the aqua prison

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

If I get hit I aim for the ADC so there's nobody to wail on me while Leona has me stunned :3

A Miss Fortune1 votes

Is it okay to spam cntrl 4 all game long

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

"Haha, yeah!"

Sorry I couldn't resist

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Some moderation should be considered, to avoid poor sportsmanship.

z14GaKI7TO1 votes

Do you have the Koi chroma pack?

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

I don't really like the base Koi Nami, but I like the gold and purple recolors so I did pick up the chroma pack.

z14GaKI7TO1 votes

Good..... good....

Hugoban1 votes

Im so jealous, I only have 64k mastery points on Nami. She is my favorite champion, so I was wondering if you have any tips on her in general. Runes masteries? Also, do you often build item 3504 or do you think this item isnt worth it?

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

Building Ardent Censer is completely dependent on who your ADC is and if there's at least 1 other that can somewhat benefit from it (like Devourer users). If my ADC stacks attack speed like Vayne and Kog'maw it's a good pick to me, but if they are someone like Jhin I won't bother. It's kind of a comfort item you go for to make a snowball lead bigger.

Runes/Masteries are pretty standard for an AP support, and you'll want Windspeaker's Blessing over Thunderlord's. I go for hybrid pen marks to accentuate her great early harass.

Spellthief's is the best support item for her, but if the enemy is something particularly dangerous you can't win trades with, it's ok to go Ancient Coin.

Hugoban1 votes

Thanks a lot :D

One last question, how do you feel about the Expose Weakness mastery? Do you think its worth going down the Ferocity tree on Nami?

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

I think I'll be sticking to the Resolve tree's utility masteries, but that is a really nice talent for us. Personal preference imo; I like Runic Armor and Insight.

iHerring1 votes

What kind of match ups would make you consider coin over spellthief? Would you use the coin to more safely lane and then swap to FQC later on?

Maybe as an extension of that, what ADCs/styles do you think work best with Nami and are there any enemy bot lanes that make you consider a different support?

Do you have a set build that you aim for regardless of enemies? I feel like I have a decent base build, but the only real change I ever make is just some subtle build order sometimes. I guess with my crippling addiction to 45CDR I get enough utility out of her base kit to stay too much out of trouble, but I should probably think about these things if I get into ranked more.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

What kind of match ups would make you consider coin over spellthief? Would you use the coin to more safely lane and then swap to FQC later on?

Things with a lot of kill pressure for landing 1 skill (Thresh/Blitz/Leona) or have a lot more poke strength than me (Sona/Brand) I might take it. Standing in the back not playing the poke game denies their strengths. I don't always play it safe, though. I upgrade to Talisman if I think my team needs the speed to get a good engage.

Maybe as an extension of that, what ADCs/styles do you think work best with Nami and are there any enemy bot lanes that make you consider a different support?

I hate working with ADC's that farm the whole laning phase like Ezreal. I want someone that follows up on an Aqua Prison and lets me add Tidecaller's Blessing to their trades. I don't change from Nami except for Yasuo, because he stops her entire kit and is extremely hard to hit with Q or even just escape.

Do you have a set build that you aim for regardless of enemies?

Aside from the standard Tier 3 gold item, Ruby Sightstone, Swifties and Oracles, everything else is dynamic.

Rosaline1 votes

I am by no means a Nami main, but I have played her quite a bit this season (I am a Janna main, but Nami has been my secondary highest champion in ranked this season -> here for op.gg) and the question of Ardent Censor is quite a common one. In my personal experience, most of the time, the only people I really find it good building for is if you have two auto attackers (Not casters like Jhin, Corki) preferably your ADC (the only ones I usually build it for are Kog'Maw and maybe Draven, but I'll get into that later) and jungle/top (For example, Xin Zhao). However, most of the time I find that the item is more of a "fun" item and there are usually better things you can do with that gold. For example, Mikael's Crucible is only 100g more but the active (even though it had a long CD) is generally fight changing in a lane or teamfight. It gives Nami most of what she wants (mana regen, CDR, some MR) while sacrificing a few combat stats in favor of a QSS + Burst heal. It also delays a lot of items that most babysitter supports should build (Mikaels, their upgraded GP10 item, Banner/Locket, Frozen Heart/Randuins, Boots) unless you're going straight AP in which case, Ardent probably shouldn't be on your "to build" list either way imo. Another issue I have with building Ardent Censor is that most of the time, you end up roaming by the time you have enough gold for that. Dragon becomes an objective, mid becomes the focus (unless it's literally just a Farm Simulator game) in which case I find it a lot more useful to just build a Locket/Banner if the mid laner is fed, or a Frozen Heart even if there's a fed bruiser on the enemy team (Xin, Shyv, etc), or like I mentioned before, Mikaels. My theory about Ardent Censor is that yes, it does give the "Magic Damage on hit", however, if your ADC is dead due to getting caught by CC, they won't be able to pump out damage anyway. As for the AP that the item gives, I would say that you're better off buying Banner of Command if you really want the AP since it's generally more useful for your team overall by providing MR (considering how most mid laners are either caster ADCS and Control Mages that don't really want to AA).

Anyway, tl;dr

Ardent Censor is a fun item to buy, but overall I find Mikael's Crucible's active a lot more game changing in most cases than the little "oomph" Censor adds to your ADC. If you're going to buy it for any champion, buy it for Kog'Maw, but only if you're sure that Koggles can survive the enemy team and generally won't be in a situation where he can be caught by CC/bursted. For other adcs, while it may boost them a little bit (i.e. Dravens that have a lead), you're generally better off just building Mikaels/Aegis item in order to keep them alive.

Regarding the Exposed Weakness mastery, I personally find that the Ferocity tree just doesn't provide enough for it to be worth it. Generally early laning phase the 2 damage reduction from Tough Skin as well as the bonus health from Veteran Scars have a HUGE impact on lane since it allows trades especially for someone as squishy as Nami and the SS reduction is always nice. However, it's personal preference since I do not build that much AP on Nami for Sorcery to become useful enough to be worth it.

ShadowParker1 votes

Do you ever bubble an ally to increase their speed? And do you think it's ever worth it?

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Only if you are at the back of a conga line chase and won't be able to help any other way.

Astôlfo1 votes

How much fun is the 1.5 second stun at Lv1? It seems to do a pretty decent amount of damage as well?

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

It's very good for invades, but if invades aren't happening you don't want to grab it at level 1. The damage is kind of negligible itself, but it sets you up for using your entire kit and weaving in auto attacks with not being traded back.

Bemapon1 votes

Do you prefer to build more AP, utility, or tank?

I know it probably depends on the situation, but which one do you personally find more enjoyable?

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

AP Utility is preferable (Censer, Banner), but usually you gotta get some tank items (Frozen Heart, Locket). If you're getting late game and have gold I like to spend it all on more AP.

ArlanKels1 votes

Do you like fishsticks?

RoodToob1 votes

When will Riot actually make Deep Terror Nami, cuz lets be real we all want it

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

I'd hit up KateyKhaos on that. She's a big Nami fan and Skin Team QA somethingorother; when she can say something about it, she will :3

Only Play Darius1 votes

Why is Nami so underplayed? I don't play her but from what I see she is an extremely versatile support and I don't think she has really ever been outright weak.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Because she hasn't seen much play on the pro scene since Season 4. The pros influence player picks too much, for absolutely no reason.

colesy1 votes

pros will always try and play what's optimal, that's the reason, not "absolutely no reason".

there's a reason you're gold, and it's because you have no idea what you're talking about or how to play your champion.

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

You done bashing me for no reason? I made it clear that I don't pretend I'm highly skilled. Not being so doesn't mean I'm not allowed to talk about it.

colesy1 votes

if you aren't highly skilled or an authority on the topic why are you making an AMA? all you're doing is spreading misinformation if you're getting people to ask you about things you're clueless about.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Looking at your profile, seems all you do is go around harassing people on your smurf. Have fun with that :3

colesy1 votes

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Deep Terror Nami1 votes

That's nice.

joliesse1 votes

Do you have a guide on Mobafire on Nami? If not, would you ever consider creating a super in-depth guide on her like Elusive Ferret's Ahri guide? I really, really like Nami, and I want to improve with her!

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Nah, there are plenty of guides out there already from people better than me.

Top Lane Terry1 votes

What elo are you and what's your win rate with Nami.

colesy1 votes

golds doing AMAs, what is this place coming to, LOL.

i have a diamond nami main friend and he wouldn't even do one and he's two leagues above you

Nickoloteon1 votes

200k is alot. Doesn’t mastery(20k) take like 20-30 games to reach? So, you’re played 200-300 ranked games as nami..

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