I am soooo MAD

Crett·Sep 24, 2015·25 votes·3,023 views

Every day it's bronze this, bronze that, you're bronze why are you having the opinion over there I played my promotionals this season and stopped after them, because ranked has a terrible atmosphere I got like over 750 wins in unranked games, and I just don't play ranked at all really

And now I'm going to go into ranked and see how far I can get because I'm tired of people looking me up and deciding I don't know anything I mean what makes them think EVERYBODy plays ranked?? IT'S SO RUDE

65 Comments

TwigglesSep 24, 20157 votes

I know my agreeing with you means nothing because I'm bronze as well, but you're completely right... You know, until a plat player comes in and says we're wrong in the most disrespectful way possible. -_-

Rew711Sep 25, 20151 votes

Honestly, today, I'm playing normals as usual and I'm playing one of my favorite supports (yeah, I'm more of a support main) Bard . My ADC Sivir is a Silver rank with a skin. Now, I don't know if she was lagging or what, but when I would lay down a shrine, she would automatically go and get ALL OF THEM. Doesn't matter when. I could had just laid it down and would you believe it, she ran into it to heal herself before it was finished. And then there are those times where I would lay all 3 down and have one ready to just hit her with incase she got a little damage... she'd rush back and get 2 of the shrines... Also, I know that we were facing a Draven/Lux but she had the better advantage with her E that stopped most to all of his slows and she should had gotten some mana regens (as Lux went crazy with her abilities and had a lot herself). For the rest of the game, she didn't do well, it was only because Wukong and Yasuo won their lanes that they came and helped us. We won but I really wonder how Sivir got to Silver unless she hardly plays Sivir (and even then, why waist money on a skin for her if you don't even like playing her?).

DragfinSep 24, 20154 votes

With so much ELO boosting going on when someone brings rank into an argument I just tell them to F**K off because more than likely they were ELO boosted. Like I can't prove they were, they can't prove they weren't.

RenascentSep 24, 20154 votes

The people who say that people in low elo don't know anything are the same people who expect those in high elo to know everything.

"How did you even get into plat?" - Whenever I make a mistake

"Why are you so bad at (Insert champion here)" - I just wanted to have some fun trying champs I don't play

Just saying, there's people with pretty bad attitudes out there, and you don't have to listen to what they say; It's just text, and something that takes so little effort to type out has no reason to yield so much "reward".

Hello I am BirdSep 24, 20151 votes

Please tell me you get those messages in normals...

Because you really shouldn't try out champions you don't have a basic understanding of in ranked.

Not to sound like an ass, I just want clarification <3

RenascentSep 24, 20151 votes

Sorry 'bout that; Yeah, I try out new champs in normals.

Most of my games nowadays are in normals, because there's much less pressure there than in ranked.

ihaveapotionSep 24, 20151 votes

I know people who are plat but terrible players who would easily get stomped by other people in my fl who are unranked.

RenascentSep 24, 20152 votes

A misconception, I don't know how common or uncommon it is, is that unranked players are low elo players.

I also have friends that are unranked, and they prefer to stay that way to either avoid rank-related remarks or to just stay out of the solo-q environment, even though they are good players.

Dunkrius2gSep 24, 20154 votes

I'm plat and you guys are getting trash-talked by egotistical people who think elo> everything, where as that is NOT the case. All opinions are accepted, don't matter if you are bronze or Challenjour.

Remlap1223Sep 24, 20153 votes

Plat+ Rank =/= always right in an argument.

Luckily for us Bronze baddies though, boards is actually moving away from the progressive stack of League where your opinion's value is directly correlated with your rank, and they're actually putting more merit into the ideas.

We've still got a long way to go, but it looks like we've erased one instance of circlejerking.

A Superb VillainSep 24, 20153 votes

I have never played a ranked game, which makes it all the more amusing when a team starts flaming someone for losing lane to an unranked scrub; break one and the team follows.

If someone must flaunt rank to legitimize their argument, maybe their argument wasn't good to begin with.

DogIsGodSep 24, 20153 votes

I prefer ranked over normals. Anyone with me or just me? ;c

Hello I am BirdSep 24, 20154 votes

Some people enjoy the competitive nature of ranked, I can understand that.

It's just when you start bragging and being a total ass about your ranked status that you become shunned.

Personally, I prefer the (Sometimes) lighthearted nature of normals. The fact that I can try out anything and any build without having to worry about winning or not.

And the LP system is completely broken, matchmaking sucks, ect...

ks916Sep 24, 20152 votes

I personally don't do ranked since I'm playing for fun, trying out new champions, roles etc. I feel like I should only do ranked games if I'm really serious about climbing since everyone else who's gonna be doing ranked is going to be serious about it.

PunkkeeSep 25, 20151 votes

there was a time where i only played normals and whenever i win, i'm just like oh ok i won? cool. if i lose i'm like, oh i lost? cool. after every game you just feel like you did something and achieved nothing. i got bored and almost quit until i played ranked After losing, i felt like i HAD to play another game to make up for that loss. After i win i feel like i HAVE to play another because i'm on a streek. I HAVE to and i WANT to. I litterally played ranked consecutivly from bronze 5 to plat 1

0kAzAn7A4BSep 24, 20153 votes

Its simple don't be bronze. Its not hard to NOT be bronze. TBH if you are in bronze you aren't ready for ranked so stick to normals.

Divine HymnSep 24, 20151 votes

So exactly how many games did it take you to climb out of bronze? What percentage of those had dcs, trolls, flamers, and people consistently pushing without wards, continuously getting caught out, and having no real basic understanding of the game? How many AD Teemo jungles did you have to carry? If you never climbed out of bronze, you don't get to talk, and if you got on a win streak and got out fast, then lucky you for avoiding the toxic swamp that keeps some of the rest of us mired there. I have hardcore won several games too, if I am fortunate enough to get one of my preferred roles, and have teammates that aren't afk, 1v4ing or flaming. Some games just aren't carryable no matter what your individual skill is. And it really doesn't take a ton of those "some games" to be stuck at a division.

0kAzAn7A4BSep 24, 20151 votes

Well I started in bronze in season 2 back when the ranked seen was actually hard and still got out of bronze and I have never been placed in bronze since then because I sat back and actually tried learning the game unlike 95% of the community. I read patch notes, watch streams, and understand why things are built not just "Dyrus did it so I'm gonna do it". So my answer is I can fucking talk all I want if you are in bronze there is a reason why you are in bronze enough said. Hell I can see from your last 12-13 games of ranked you have only played at a silver level 20% of the time and 80% of the time you are playing at a bronze level hence why you are in bronze sorry not sorry at all.

Divine HymnSep 25, 20151 votes

Can you like give me some examples of these egregious mistakes I am making that put me at "bronze" level rather than spouting off a made up statistic of 80% bronze? I mean if you actually have real pointers, I'd be interested in hearing them since I am in fact trying to improve. But you're probably just here to make yourself sound good about how all the bronze people suck even though you're only silver V. And I am assuming you're taking into account the fact that for several of these games, people were dcing and flaming the whole time and making it pretty difficult to accomplish much of anything. I've played with several gold and plat friends specifically asking them to watch my play and give hints and suggestions on what I can improve and unless they're all lying to me they say I am doing fine from what they can see. But you must know better since you can casually glance at my match history and label me 80% bronze.

0kAzAn7A4BSep 26, 20151 votes

You're friends are gonna lie to you I do it to my bronze friends all the time we tell you, you people are doing fine when you really aren't. Again you are bronze for a reason enough said.

Divine HymnSep 28, 20151 votes

So zero examples, then. Kay.

0kAzAn7A4BSep 28, 20151 votes

Ok I have reviewed your last 13 ranked games you want examples let give them then: 1st. you cant cs for shit on a champ that has a free point-click spell as long as you last hit the minion with the spell (annie). 2nd. you can't ward past a silver level ever you buy maybe 2-3 wards per game unless you are support. 3rd. Ap support doesnt mean you buy ap support item then go full carry it means you are still a support and should not be trying to burst people. 4th. You can't seem to grasp that 2nd tier boost should be either 1st or 2nd item you complete not an item that is purchased with your spare gold you have lying around. 5th. We visit vision again even on your supports you refuse to buy pink wards you buy a sighstone and think "ok I've got my wards for the entire game" WRONG. So these are just 5 simple and basics skills you do not posses and are a basis of getting into anything above a medium bronze level. This is all showing major errors in simple game play I'm sure your mechanics are not amazing as well since the most mechanically intense champion you play is Annie and you seem to screw that up. These are why you are in bronze. Wanna see where I got my facts from right here http://freelo.gg/summoner/NA/rionach where it shows you playing at a 70% bronze level. Enjoy Bronze.

Divine HymnSep 29, 20151 votes

I agree my CS is not fantastic - I started playing Annie mid about a week ago, and it took me a few games to get the hang of it, especially coming from a role that doesn't really CS. It was my secondary pick in ranked after support since you can't always play your preferred role, but I think I've improved. I don't claim to be particularly great at roles other than my main, although my last ranked game I actually went 15/1/17 as Annie mid. Generally I compare my CS more to my opponents as the game is progressing than to the standard "platinum" CS because in bronze there is a ton of roaming that has to happen in order to prevent other lanes from snowballing. I have to leave lane a lot more than I do in my normal games, where my elo is higher. I think my win rate is over 66% with Annie mid, though, and a lot of it is because I am map aware and going to help other teammates in a tight spot, even if it means missing a wave or two of CS. If my opponent sit in lane and farms, they often lose the game because the rest of their team is dying and they aren't helping, even if their overall CS ends up being higher. For example, the Ahri I faced last game I played as Annie had a lot more CS than me, but I ended up with 3 k more gold because I was actually at team fights.

I'm not really sure where you're getting the boots thing.. boots is always either my second or third item (third on support because I rush a sightstone and often upgrade my gold income item early). Not only do I upgrade boots, but I always make sure to enchant and upgrade trinket, which a lot of bronze players forget. A lot of times the reason I have only a couple pinks is because they sit on the map all game, even if they're in an obvious spot. People just don't kill them. Buying more pinks when my existing pinks aren't dead is a waste. I probably could be buying even more regular wards, so that's something I will continue to work on, but compared to my teams I am generally on the higher end of warding. Still, I agree that wards are always a good thing even if you're mid.

The AP support game you're referencing is probably the Zyra game. In this game, Yasuo dc'd early and when he came back was lagging all game. He specifically asked me to build dmg heavy because he was essentially useless. I ended up even sitting in his lane a while because he couldn't move.

And the second and fifth point you made were the same thing, so...

But yeah, the site gives a general sort of benchmark, but I think there is a lot of situational decisions that it can't hope to account for. Either way, it's not a particularly accurate way of labeling someone's rank - best case scenario it highlights one or two specifics areas that player could potentially improve on without any regard to context.

YatsufusåSep 25, 20151 votes

You're Silver V. You were just bronze. What's up?

0kAzAn7A4BSep 26, 20151 votes

um no I wasnt I'm silver 5 cause this is what going 8-2 in provisionals gets you ass hat you can look and see unless I climbed out of bronze and into silver 4 with less than 18 ranked wins

ninjaIRL Sep 24, 20152 votes

It sucks but you just have to shrug it off. I know because I've avoided playing ranked since I got Bronze II last season.

I've started playing ranked again though. 3 or 4 months ago I finished my provisionals and got dumped in Bronze II, it felt embarassing but I noticed how my gameplay was getting better and better. I feel lucky in that most ranked matches there are hardly any DCers or AFKers or flamers so that lets me climb faster. Everyone just plays the game regardless if they're "bad" or not which is just the way ranked should be and I'm fine with that. Sure your team mate might suck ass but that's infinitely better than if they flamed all game or DCed or AFKed who cares! I'm now Silver IV slowly climbing. I'll see if I can get to Gold V for the season rewards.

DaenSep 24, 20152 votes

I'm now Silver IV slowly climbing. I'll see if I can get to Gold V for the season rewards.

Good luck! Rootin' for ya.

Jihadi GhandiSep 24, 20153 votes

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It sucks but you just have to shrug it off. I know because I've avoided playing ranked since I got Bronze II last season.

I've started playing ranked again though. 3 or 4 months ago I finished my provisionals and got dumped in Bronze II, it felt embarassing but I noticed how my gameplay was getting better and better. I feel lucky in that most ranked matches there are hardly any DCers or AFKers or flamers so that lets me climb faster. Everyone just plays the game regardless if they're "bad" or not which is just the way ranked should be and I'm fine with that. Sure your team mate might suck ass but that's infinitely better than if they flamed all game or DCed or AFKed who cares! I'm now Silver IV slowly climbing. I'll see if I can get to Gold V for the season rewards.

I'm a platinum player. It means nothing man. I play with my bronze and silver friends and I have seen better game play better mechanics better builds on them than I do in half my ranked games. They're hungry for higher elo and even if they aren't playing ranked they are getting better constantly. I have told my bronze 1 and silver 2 friends time and time again that they are platinum players but they play champions that are not meant for solo q wins. (Azir and ww). They love their late game scaling champions. And that's awesome. They just can't wrap their heads around the early burst champion solo carry mentality. And I don't think they have to. They chose not to sell out to rank hype and I find that cool.

Ps I started in bronze 5. And the struggle from bronze 5 to gold 5 was twice as hard as the push to platinum. Ragers. Flamers and very young players. Norms have a much better atmosphere to play quality games if you aren't already high elo. And even in high elo I will run into people thinking they can build and play whom ever they want because they're platinum. Silvers don't do that. They play to win with what they know.

ihaveapotionSep 24, 20152 votes

Youre the kind of guy i respect. :)

PunkkeeSep 25, 20151 votes

in my opinion getting out of silver was probably the hardest thing in my career. i actually had to duo with a friend i knew didnt deserve silver and we played until i got into gold. right after that i consecutivly won until i was plat.

SerevasSep 24, 20152 votes

I get that quite a bit as well, just because I'm bronze in ranked, a game mode I haven't touched in months, doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about. My MMR in normals is in the 1200s, I'm not actually a bronze player by those standards, and even in ranked I rarely play against bronze players, it's mid-high silver with the occasional gold player here and there.

Emperor AntaresSep 24, 20153 votes

how do u calculate normal mmr lol

FHMarshySep 24, 20152 votes

Usually ranks are only brought into arguments when they don't agree with your opinion but can't prove it wrong.

LeetriSep 25, 20152 votes

Ad Hominem, they attack you directly to diminish your opinion since they can't attack the opinion itself due to their weak/lack of arguments.

FHMarshySep 25, 20151 votes

Sadly someone just does it to feel superior :(

DaenSep 24, 20152 votes

I think Riot's idea of lumping Bronze together with Unranked kind of backfired, to be honest. Instead of making people that were unranked feel a bit better about it, they essentially made it so that anyone below what used to be 1149 ELO (Silver) is the same Tier. Someone that's literally at zero MMR is considered to be part of the same group as someone who is almost silver, which to me might be a contributing factor.

ayNigerianPrinceSep 24, 20152 votes

Can I buy you a new icon?

CrettSep 24, 20154 votes

My icon is cool and original

YatsufusåSep 25, 20151 votes

Haha

ayNigerianPrinceSep 25, 20151 votes

Well...I guess it is not used as much.

But I see it more than I ever see mine.

CrettSep 25, 20151 votes

I could be using my Perfect Ascension icon but idk I just like the minion for some reason

Divine HymnSep 24, 20152 votes

I love when you play normals, and your normal ELO is a lot higher than your ranked ELO because your teammates tend not to be as bad, and gold people are like "OMG why are there bronzes in my team?" (Then you actually play better than them). Rank is a lot more luck than it is skill.

DarthSpectrumSep 24, 20152 votes

I know what you mean. I got placed in Bronze I this season, and I easily climbed to Gold V this summer.

Honestly, the skill gap isn't that large. As long as both sides know how to play the game and understand their respective champions, there isn't that much of a difference between a high Silver and Bronze player. I would attribute more weight to the lane match up rather than player skill in determining which party wins lane.

In my circle of friends, I have quite a few gold, platinum, and diamond players. I noticed that the aspect that sets them apart is simply how much time they spend on League. Climbing in League takes time, a lot of time. It takes 7 games minimum to move up a division, that is at least 6 hours. Now imagine doing that 5 times, with some divisions taking as many as 13 or so games.

A Bronze 5 player who does not deserve to be there will need to invest at least 40 or so hours to get to Silver. Most people have school or work during the day. It would take an average person weeks, if not months, to find the time to climb 5 divisions.

My friends in platinum and diamond almost always have a lot more time to play League compared to me and my other friends in Gold. Since my high ELO friends play more often, they also get more chances to improve.

League is like a sport or an instrument, the more one plays it, naturally the better one gets at it. After making the trip to Gold V, I finally understand now that higher ELO players aren't necessary innately better, they just have more time for League.

However, most people just don't have the time to climb higher.

BemaponSep 25, 20152 votes

Everyone is bronze. Challenger? I think you mean the shiniest bronze.

BIG BAD AXE MANSep 24, 20151 votes

http://imgur.com/wXOQjCu

stomped a silver 3 and i'm unranked.

Photos of GhostsSep 28, 20151 votes

Silver 3 = unranked. Literally, unrankeds are compared to Silver 3s when they join ranked.

PunkkeeSep 25, 20151 votes

Proof. Not to sound rude but just deal with it. We need SOMETHING to judge you on, so we judge your elo. How else are we suppose to know you know what you're talking about? If you're applying to be a teacher but don't have your teaching credential and say something like "i learned everything i need to know from friends, friend teachers, and the internet but I don't have the credential" There was a time where i played normals only for like a year because i was scared of the ranked atmosphere. I stayed at about a bronze/silver level from playing normals. I never would've gotten the strategies and concepts of the game if i didnt play ranked. That's because in ranked, people try and do everything they can to get information. In normals, that's where you play with your friends.

tl;dr rank is suppose to be a measure of skill. Normal players are casual Ranked players are tryhards

CrettSep 25, 20151 votes

Why not judge people by what they're saying? When someone makes a post that someone doesn't agree with, they should seriously be looking at the post itself and not the player's credentials like posting your opinion on the forums is like applying for a friggin job lol

I don't fear the ranked atmosphere, I just have kinda zero interest in it, and I feel like I'm improving playing normal games fine (I'm in the "OMG VISION" phase). One day I'd like to play ranked teams, but solo queue just isn't for me

PunkkeeSep 25, 20151 votes

Think of this. Bronze: "Hydra is broken on lee sin" Diamond: "Zhonyas is broken on lee sin" I'm not sure how long you've played but after this statement every lee sin player was like... required to get zhonyas. It's insightful. Diamond people are familiar with the game, and are creative with it. Bronze sticks with what they know. Not that there's anything wrong with!

For the ranked opinions, yea you can play normals but theres kinda a max of how good you can get without playing ranked (or watching streams but that's a different story). In ranked there's strategy towards counterpicking and teambasing, synergy, and counterteamsynergy. That's a huge chunk that i can't really explain without a full on video.

I think the biggest difference between ranked and normals is the playerbase. Whether they care or not.

Playing with people that care will DEFINITELY make you BETTER.

*also a big portion of ranks is bragging rights

Photos of GhostsSep 28, 20151 votes

Because neither is an argumentation. Neither is or should be believable.