What if Veigar's R stopped mid-air if his target became untargetable

Crett··104 votes·4,563 views

And then resumed upon them becoming vulnerable again

It'd be broken, but it'd also be really funny to see that It'd make me feel better about Fizz

EDIT: Community Response: http://www.gifbin.com/bin/320sw0sw7847.gif

46 Comments

PiRoScOuT34 votes

It would be funny, but I say it should decrease with size, until they are targetable again, and if they survive long enough, and the ult shrinks away, you live.

ApexInTheCircle39 votes

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It would be funny, but I say it should decrease with size, until they are targetable again, and if they survive long enough, and the ult shrinks away, you live.

As a Veigar main I find this both funny and amusing. I would give my left nut to watch a hecarim try to ult away and outrun my ult.

Grouchy Poro1 votes

I had a gankplank burn his flash trying to run from my ult XP

Decrit13 votes

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I say it should decrease with size

...is that a short joke? or a short fuse joke?

Kitten of Evil1 votes

I had honestly forgotten Ziggs exists until you said that.

Conturbatio1 votes

It kinda makes sense, since it feeds on their power (aka enemy ap scaling), if they vanish, it'll start fading away unless they re-appear, then it'll continue haunting its target. It shouldn't lose its power as it travels, because that'll make the current version of itself trash, it would only start losing power if there is nothing to burst. Heck, that'd be so funny to watch xP but meh, something like this will never enter the game.

Oh, but I still can try it in the sandbox mode that Riot has just released! RIGHT?!

Dracocrash15 votes

when zed ults a target and if the target dies before the deathmark debuff can apply his ult goes on a 5s cd since veigars ult is so impactfull for veigar, I think if veigar ults a target and it dies or becomes invulnerable before the ult hits, it should reset the cd to 5s like zeds

Voluug132 votes

But muh play$

Conturbatio6 votes

Caitlyn's ult has similar effects too, if her target goes untargetable or dies before she fires the shot, her ult goes on a 5 seconds cd as well!

FastAsHeck3 votes

Pantheon can cancel his (or if he gets stunned) and it goes on 10 second cd as well. but Graves still cant have a cigar!!!

the Anarchit3cht2 votes

The difference being in this case is that the projectile is fired and the CD for his ultimate is already ticking. While I agree it shouldn't fizzle your ult if they die before it goes off, the issue here would be one with coding. It would require either a CD reduction if no target is hit or for the CD to go off when the ultimate hits, and be much shorter if it does not.

JungHai01 votes

The thing with Zed's ult thought is that it also gap-closes. Where other ults only fire a projectile, Zed is the projectile.

Micbran14 votes

Or make it circle the untargetable champ if it reaches them. And then just blow them up once they become targetable.

hi im alphonse17 votes

would it leap up and slam down like a blue shell?

Crowe Stalker2 votes

It'd be funny if Riot made a Veigar skin where it became a Blue Turtle Shell just to do that...

Terchio6 votes

While we're at it, make it go around Wind Wall.

Maximum Morde4 votes

Nah, it should shatter the wind wall (and any other walls it passes through like those from Karthus Trundle Anivia, J4 etc) causing the wall to explode for 10% max hp true damage to all enemies withing 1000 range of the wall due to the primordial energy interacting with the lesser magic of these pitiful walls.

dabbadonk4 votes

I think it would be even more hilarious to just watch it go around the corner of the windwall and then nuke that yasuo anyway

qetzel3 votes

It wouldn't be OP, it would just be a hard counter. Hard counters are not a good thing in general - they make the opponent feel crap.

IcyPepper7 votes

But untargetability hard counters targeted abilities.

:/

Crett3 votes

Armor penetration counters armor, which is supposed to be a counter to AD, but that's apparently alright too

I'm really bitter about AD itemization LOL

IcyPepper1 votes

As funny as it sounds, building more armor can counter penetration, and health too if the target isn't a strong BORK user.

Why?

item 3134 item 3142 item 3707 the flat armor pen items. Pretty expensive. Unless you're a glass cannon champion, warrior and just brutalizer are expensive compared to item 1029 that negates the difference. As for last whisper, your armor is still useful it's not just as useful. As annoying as that may be, it helps keeps tanks from being unkillable late-game.

Though with the recent armor/health item nerfs, you'd think they would give LW 5 more AD and reduce the armor pen to 30%, but that's just me.

You know what annoys me more tho? I main support/jungle, but even I'm annoyed by this one thing in midlane:

item 3020 vs item 3111. 100 gold difference, but that 100 gold gives merc a 10 MR advantage and a really useful passive. So if an AD assassin is vs a mage...

Not to mention sorc boots is countered by item 3105. Not as bad (Aegis is a very nice item!), it just sucks when the AD assassin built merc treads. :/

qetzel1 votes

I didn't say Fizz was good design :P

Rinky Dinky14 votes

I feel like Fizz players should feel some more crap.

But then again, im sure they already are with the juggs

Rebonack1 votes

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It wouldn't be OP, it would just be a hard counter. Hard counters are not a good thing in general - they make the opponent feel crap.

Zonya's is already a hard counter.

Blue Moon Wolf3 votes

Somehow I don't think Veigar should have that kind of power, but at the same time I want this to happen .__.

Rismonaught3 votes

What if we made it bad to counter his ult? Untargetable? Didn't do damage?

OK so it detonates in a 600 unit radius doing its damage in %true damamge to everyone and twice to vayne

Carnage2 votes

nice idea

Lugg2 votes

You can't have Fizz without a big F. Screw that guy.

Reazale1 votes

That "big F. Screw that guy" is too common , this would be totally uncommon, more unique (sadly this would be the counter to a counter but we have those on league)

PT Waluigi2 votes

This is the worst idea ever....I love it. It's so disgustingly beautiful.

Cicote2 votes

beat me to it like for real this is scary, I had this exact idea in the shower right now

Akesgeroth2 votes

And if it hits a wall like Yasuo's, it bounces off it and circles back around to hit its target.

This wouldn't even be broken. It would be hilarious.

TotalJerk1 votes

No offense man, but fuck no.

Crett6 votes

Obviously that's a heck-no balance wise But it's a funny concept

Zed tries to cheese Veigar with Death Mark, dies as soon as he shows up

DEmperor951 votes

Funny thing to see for sure. Except gameplay wise, that will remove literally all counterplay remaining to this ability so I don't see it happening.

Phuc Dat Bich1 votes

That would be broken....

All abilities are lost when someone goes untargetable

So no not gonna happen

Vincent Lucius3 votes

I know that you're using logic right now, but free your mind... and embrace the darkness in your heart. Embrace the power.

VancLucian1 votes

That is the worst think i ever hear in my life ! You wanna nerf Veigar soo much? Jesus....

BigPooStorm1 votes

They really should just make it go on a 10 second cooldown in some cases like if Vlad pools it or Fizz troll polls it. Seriously, as his only reliable form of damage, it's incredibly easy to outplay.

StealWolverine1 votes

I think it would be better if it just stayed there and became a bomb whose radius depends on its size/veigars ap

Byakuya Kuchiki1 votes

"what if we removed all the counterplay form a spell on a champ that is strong right now but i refuse to relearn so i suck at them"

Rundus11 votes

Rito pls

Alleo1 votes

I just wish that if you ulted someone as Veigar and they died before your ult reached them that the CD would be cut so you don't waist your ult for nothing.

Athenes Lulu1 votes

Imagine if that popped item 3157 ...

Oh boy.

Captainn Ginyu1 votes

Or better yet when it stop mid air it explodes into a giant black hole and pulls everyonne in doing the damage its scaled for over time now THATS broken

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