So glad Dominion is removed, seems like a waste of space to me

BeatzBoyFTW·2/23/2016, 4:44:36 AM·2 votes·638 views

When I first heard about its removal, I don't feel affected about it at all. First of all, who dafuq plays Dominion? Second, even if people claim to have played it, then why dafuq does it takes me more than 20-30 minutes to find a goddamn team?? And even if I found a team by that time, it will always be composed of at least a singple who's a Bot player who're just here to farm IP. I mean, what kind of "Dominion determination" is that???

Hell, throughout all my 3 years of LoL life, and after checking through Boards last week, that was the first time I see people posting that Dominion is fun because of Hide & Seek. Let me guess. You just thought about it AFTER Riot announced its removal, huh? HUH???

And no, I am not in about the idea of replacing Dominion with another gamemode like URF. Cz after that, it will be URF's turn to suffer Dominion's fate. Let it be URF, One for All, or even Ascension. Doombots? Well, maaaaaaaybe, since we need a mode harder than Intermediate Bots anyway.

#But it was Riot's fault that they never bothered to update Dominion!

Oh shut up, if you're this determined to love playing it, then I'm sure the non-updated features doesn't bother you as well. Plus, there were various times where certain champions were nerfed/buffed around Dominion, so don't say Riot has completely forgotten about it.


I'm just here expressing my thoughts about it.

3 Comments

Rem Was Here2/23/2016, 4:47:17 AM3 votes

I guess you can relate to the "like a waste of space" part

Cindikle2/23/2016, 5:13:08 AM2 votes

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When I first heard about its removal, I don't feel affected about it at all. First of all, who dafuq plays Dominion? Second, even if people claim to have played it, then why dafuq does it takes me more than 20-30 minutes to find a goddamn team?? And even if I found a team by that time, it will always be composed of at least a singple who's a Bot player who're just here to farm IP. I mean, what kind of "Dominion determination" is that???

You probably tried Draft. Sadly Draft was a barren wasteland. And yes, bots were a problem. They will just move to another mode now though. I'm actually shocked Riot is removing Dominion because of this reason. If the bots start to go into SR they will actually have to do something about them.

Hell, throughout all my 3 years of LoL life, and after checking through Boards last week, that was the first time I see people posting that Dominion is fun because of Hide & Seek. Let me guess. You just thought about it AFTER Riot announced its removal, huh? HUH???

You missed that big post from about a year ago of people asking for Riot to do something with Dominion. It got quite a bit of attention. Every once in a while a post will pop up about the mode. But since all the modes share the same forums it gets burred quickly. I honestly never see anything about TT. Should that go too?

People flooded in to give their thoughts on how to improve the mode. How they would love to go back or give it a real try if it was taken care of. Riot overall ignored it.

And no, I am not in about the idea of replacing Dominion with another gamemode like URF. Cz after that, it will be URF's turn to suffer Dominion's fate. Let it be URF, One for All, or even Ascension. Doombots? Well, maaaaaaaybe, since we need a mode harder than Intermediate Bots anyway.

100% agree with this one. Those modes would seriously get boring. A big thing about Dom is that it has it's own map. And none of those mods are intended to be balanced. URF alone would take far more than Dominion to balance.

#But it was Riot's fault that they never bothered to update Dominion!

Oh shut up, if you're this determined to love playing it, then I'm sure the non-updated features doesn't bother you as well. Plus, there were various times where certain champions were nerfed/buffed around Dominion, so don't say Riot has completely forgotten about it.

Dominion received very minor assistance in the form of a single Rioter communicating it all. Those champion changes were map specific. TT got the same thing. This was also quite a while ago. When Dom had a community and it's own forum. It was for sure more than 0.5% of the population. It dropped that low because Riot stopped trying and people started to leave.

There were a lot of factors that lead to that 0.5%. And the #1 contributor was Riot. They did not care. They tried to give minimal effort to band-aid it. Obviously, it didn't work so they just stopped caring all together. #2 was probably that big thread I mentioned before. A lot of dedicated Dom players left after that, because Riot overall said they wouldn't put any effort into it.

Most people who got into the mode were able to ignore the non-updated features.

In all honestly, look at that Reddit post of the final Dominate Dominion tournament. Dom achieves what Riot has only done once for SR since I started playing. (I started early S3, Tank meta was fantastic).

  • Almost every champion is very viable. Some are for sure stronger than others. But not on the scale SR has problems with.
  • Comebacks can easily happen.
  • Vision is a challenge, but not frustrating. Hell, Clairvoyance on at least one player is a GOOD idea. When has that spell been a good idea on SR?
  • Action everywhere. The mode is teamfighting. What was the last season you watched the LCS and thought "man this is so exciting, every turn is a fight of skill". No, most LCS matches are people playing PvE till the jungler shows up to 2v1. Then one side stalls and tries to recover while the other streamrolls over them.
  • Most types of team comps are viable. SR is generally limited to a meta and meta-counter comps. Once in a while you see comps that go outside of this. But those are gamble comps and not really 'viable'. They hope to offset the balance and take the enemy out of comfort.
  • ADC's are a power pick! ADC's overall are weak on the mode and require a team to actually be effective. ADC's have been a mandatory pick on SR for years.
Minarde2/23/2016, 10:23:03 PM1 votes

even if people claim to have played it, then why dafuq does it takes me more than 20-30 minutes to find a goddamn team?? And even if I found a team by that time, it will always be composed of at least a singple who's a Bot player who're just here to farm IP.

If it regularly took you 20-30 minutes to get a queue pop, you were either in the dead draft queue or had extraordinary MMR and would be in the same situation regardless of map/mode.

Hell, throughout all my 3 years of LoL life, and after checking through Boards last week, that was the first time I see people posting that Dominion is fun because of Hide & Seek.

I'm not familiar with the Hide&Seek community, but the Dominion community typically kept to its corner of the Boards. Originally it was the Dominion-specific section of the old forums, then the Maps&Modes sub-board after Riot removed the individual map sections in the redesign, then the Gameplay sub-board after Riot removed Maps&Modes. Fewer and fewer people made the transition each time. Regardless, there's been a roughly annual large Dominion megathread: Feedski made one around when he stopped running DD tournaments, and Fancy had his ultimatum thing a year after that.

Oh shut up, if you're this determined to love playing it, then I'm sure the non-updated features doesn't bother you as well.

Still doesn't provide any goals (e.g. ranked, Mastery) for players to strive towards. Furthermore, new players wouldn't bother trying Dominion when the map is so badly neglected.

Plus, there were various times where certain champions were nerfed/buffed around Dominion, so don't say Riot has completely forgotten about it.

As a counter-argument, here are the patch notes for last year's URF event, and here is the list of all map-specific champion balance changes (except for Cass, rework GP, and rework Garen) for TT and Dominion ever. URF literally got more champion balance changes in one patch than TT and Dominion together have gotten in five years.