But what the hell, let's nerf 
for no reason at all, according to Rito's logic.....
Had one hell of a time going 
top against a 
, and all she needs to do is land Qs & AAs to deal 80% of my health. And I have no idea why was she & Udyr never nerfed.....
Incoming "this is how you counter Riven & Udyr" comments. Would be receiving the exact same reply if I say Kass is the one out of control & Riven being nerfed.
Jamaree2 votes...What?I can't tell if this is trolling or not.
BeatzBoyFTW1 voteshttp://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1720420734/208257366?tab=overview
Here's my proof. It's hard to make a serious sounding thread with just words, and I hate people who think of me in a wrong way when making "dumb" statements, like when I said Riven needs nerfs.
mirAcIe2 votesThis is the proof that snowballing happens. Your Riven opponent was fed first blood at minute 1. You died to her at minute 8. Don't expect much out of that lane after that start.
BeatzBoyFTW1 votesIt was my jungler
fault for trying to invade enemy jungle, only to have himself killed instead. I was otw to bot til Tristana fed kills to my enemy Riven instead.
mirAcIe1 votesNot arguing who's fault was that here. Just explaining the reasons why Riven was strong from the start. It's not normal to judge whether someone needs nerfs if they are 2-0 8 minutes into the game. Of course they are going to be stronger than you.
Jamaree1 voteshttp://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1720420734/208257366?tab=overview
Here's my proof. It's hard to make a serious sounding thread with just words, and I hate people who think of me in a wrong way when making "dumb" statements, like when I said Riven needs nerfs.
I kind of understand Riven QQ...but not Udyr.
Ariaflux2 votesSorry OP, it's not meta to complain about Udyr and Riven. Get with the times.
Try Kalista, she's getting popular. If it fails, you can always fall back on Lee Sin and Zed.
Only Play Darius1 votes Has become a problem once again because of the nerfs to mana regen. Just going to have to put up with it until Riot either nerfs Riven, or buffs champions with early game mana problems, and neither outcome seems likely.