So many games that I have been in have been brought down by bad champion select behavior. You are mad entering the game, and that drags down your team during the game. And the worst part is, the trolls do not get picked out because the tribunal can not see their behavior at all the times that are relevant. Some of them troll champ select and then clam up during the game, and I fear that they squeak by undetected.
ShinRaigeki30 votesWhy not add post-game chat too. I've seen some pretty extreme behavior there too.
Should be a report for PMs too, I've had 2 people add me post match only to chew me out...
xZrathX6 votesWhy would you accept their friend invites in the first place?
I agree tho, post-game chat would be nice as well. Some ppl will freak the F*k out post chat since, they know the chat won't show up on the report.
RasCaelestis5 votesAye. I can attest to this, unfortunately. I had one ARAM where an opponent said nothing all game but 'lol' and then in post-game chat flipped out at my team. He told two of us to "drink bleach" along with other ways to kill ourselves, was extremely sexist, racist, angry, and generally not someone I'd ever want to come in contact with again. Unfortunately, since it was post-game, the Tribunal saw none of it.
This individual was so mentally disturbed that I actually sent a ticket to player support with screenshots of the chat log. That's the only time I've ever contacted player support, but something needed to be done. I'm okay with the occasional troll or rager, but this... There are some things you just don't say to other human beings.
xZrathX1 votesLOLHAHAHAHAH OMG dude thank you for sharing that. That was a funny read. "This individual was so mentally disturbed"
VirtualPlay2 votesI have submitted a ticket for post-game chat once because of a very horrible post-game chat that I knew Riot had to know about. I forgot the details now, but I'm pretty sure I got a death wish thrown at me, and I know that they said they had other accounts.
Either way, agree with OP, pre-game (and post-game) chats should be included in the tribunal cases for full context.
RasCaelestis2 votesThis person said that they'd been banned twice "because of *s like u noobs". I do not think it was because of us. >_>
ShinRaigeki2 votesBecause they were silent/fairly civil... until the Add-on.
Razamanie1 votesYou don't have to accept the request. Once you've sent a person a friend request you find their name in grey at the bottom of you're friends list and you can message them from there, no warnings and just start laying into them before they block you or can defend themselves.
NeroUS2 votesThe worst things that I have ever seen, I have seen in post-game chat.
DptBear1 votesI agree in principle, but I can see a logistic difficulty that does not come up with the pre-game chat: you can report people before post game "concludes". Then again, I doubt the tribunal is instantaneous after being reported, so its probably not a big deal (although it should show when people leave the post game chat).
ShinRaigeki1 votesWhat the tribunal would do is this after a revised system:
Prematch --Stores the chat logs, and individual complaints.
Match --Stores the chat logs
Post-Match --Stores the chat logs, and individual complaints.
When you go into the tribunal, it comes up like this
[ LAST 5 REPORTS BUTTONS ]
[ Pre-Match ] [ Match ] [ post Match ]
(Sub-Tabs/Buttons)
Magister Ragun11 votesWhile Lyte insists that having access to this chat wont change most tribunal outcomes, I want to throw out that without having access to these chats, tribunal is fundamentally incomplete, and I am less interested in participating in tribunal because of it, knowing each time I read a case that I can't see the full picture.
Sir ArmaMalum5 votesThis has been wanted by a lot of people trust me. The main issue is that champ select chat and post-game chat are done in a separate program (AIR client vs. game client) and for whatever reason this makes it very difficult to include without completely rewriting the AIR client. I'm not a computer expert by any means, but this has come up often and this is where the conversation usually leads.
bzhen09155 votesTbh tho the AIR client needs rewriting completely. It is generally quite sluggish and you can't even modify the in game settings. The AIR client needs to be rewritten to add more integration to the game client.
Sir ArmaMalum1 votesLike I said I'm no computer expert, so I'll just sit back and watch :)
Crunk2 votescould it not simply be saved as text in whatever way or location the game client does?
Razamanie1 votesI love this comment. Chat is text regardless of where it originates from or what part of the game it is entered in. it would be real easy i would think, to simply say game:1248790165708175 pregame text:hi im a feeder in game text: why isnt anyone answering my alert pings for help i need a gank?! post game: told you *** i was going to feed, hope you loved it, deal with it assclowns!
I wouldnt care how long it took, what format it was in, or how it was done, when i take part in tribunals, i want the whole story so i can fairly judge what happened. Especially to help those who are just victims and cant even defend themselves besides 1 vote to report for harassment/feeding/trolling etc
melek3 votesFrom a programmer's perspective, each game should have an ID. If the AIR client chat were logged (currently, I believe it is not) then it could very easily be tagged with the game ID and which team, with all relevant player IDs. This log could be merged with the tribunal data.
All of it is easy. It is work, but it is not hard work for a programmer who knows the respective systems. Its not a technical barrier, is all I'm suggesting.
FlagshipFrog3 votesIts completely unfair to get a cross in promo for dodge.
You don't want to start a losing game because of a troll ruin the game, harassing the whole team and you don't have way to report and you count as lost not because of your skill and the troll wins. Riot is encouraging troll to being not communicating with team, ruining people promo series, troll picks, by letting them doing all these without any punishment, instead they punish the people cooperate, punish those want the win from skill play. Maybe Riot stuff are also those self-centred kids who will do the same real life? GG.
Nicarasu3 votesI completely agree, also with the people who have mentioned post-game chat and pm's. There should be no chat where people cannot be held to account for their actions.
Zevymo2 votesI understand that if riot might be against this because they would have too much of a hassle with not actually going into game (someone dodges) but they could just save a temporary file or something for the chat and then if it goes in game it would be saved. Otherwise if not it would just get deleted on the spot
Monkbats1 votesagree fully
LunarMageRem1 votesI would agree with this. I've often seen people who act terrible in champ select, cursing at their teammates and such without reason, only for them to then act perfectly fine in game. The only explanation I can come up with is they know they can get anyway with it in champ select, but don't want to risk getting banned by doing it in the game where it can be seen by those viewing the tribunal.
Bioxard1 votesI fully support this