PSA: You are at risk of being banned for MMR boosting even if you've never done it. Here's proof.

Craig··265 votes·96,762 views

Please read through the post before immediately assuming this is just some shitty booster crying about a ban. It's not.

Yesterday, after a Normal game with a friend, I received a pop-up message saying my account was banned and that the client was going to exit. I had immediately assumed it was because I'd recently had a game with an Irelia that locked in the traditional troll Summoner Spells and I chose to tell her that she was an immature piece of shit as she sat in the fountain. Okay, fair enough.

I went ahead and checked my email and was extremely surprised to see "MMR Boosting Suspension". I was even more surprised to see that I was being hit with more than just a wrongful ban. The email claimed that bans of this type come with a two-week ban, yet my actual email informing me of the ban shows that I've been banned for just one week. That, in combination with the fact that I'm being banned for something I've never done, has me pretty convinced that someone didn't exactly have their shit together when I was banned.

I'll stop here just to throw out my performances in previous seasons:

  • Season 2: Bronze
  • Season 3: Gold
  • Season 4: Platinum

I'm Platinum IV at the time of my ban. That just looks like basic progression, yeah?

Feel free to look through my OP.gg and LolKing. Go as far back as necessary. Let me know if you find anything that looks even remotely suspicious. I'm really confident that you won't, because there is nothing. It's just me grinding League.

Knowing that I've not done anything wrong, I begin to consider what I could have done to make it appear as if I have. Well, I've played a couple games at a friend's house. I've recently redone my entire Runes and Masteries (simply because you can't change their positioning yet). I had to use WTFast for a few days because my ISP was affected by the Chicago move. That's all that comes to mind.

Playing lawyer for myself, I go ahead and look through all of the League documents on MMR boosting:

The second link is especially discouraging, as it reads: > Keep in mind that we are committed to not punishing anyone unless we have 100% certainty that MMR Boosting is occurring.

Whaaat? How arrogant is that? I can immediately say that's a completely false claim. They're literally telling you upfront that they make no mistakes in banning people for this? They do.

However, the area above that claims that you can legitimately play at another location (which I'm assuming means using WTFast is also fine). That absolves me from just about everything that comes to mind.

Taking a glance at their process of detection, it seems like they make the claim that this is all done manually. It just says that they look at your own previous performance and compare patterns in it to those that have boosted. It's apparently checked numerous times.

Again, I will be shocked and amazed if anyone can point out an abnormality in my performance history: http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Craig

The closest thing that might cross even the biggest skeptic's mind would be my placement matches, where I duo'd with a friend for all 10 games and we played super aggressive bottom lanes. We'd play stuff like Syndra or Riven support, and I think I finished 8-2 or 9-1. But, I've had higher win streaks than 8 or 9 before. There's no way they use that as their criteria for flagging someone as a booster. And, like I said, I'm Platinum IV right now. I was Platinum last season. Does that ring any alarms to you?

I went ahead and submitted a support ticket last night. This morning, to no surprise at all, I received a response with a copy-and-paste answer going no further than essentially just saying that they're right and I'm wrong. That's helpful!

So, I'm here sitting and thinking to myself again, "What could I have possibly done?" It comes to mind that I have a friend who was banned in Season 4 for this reason. I regularly play Normal and ARAM games with her. Does that, for whatever reason, have anything to do with it? Am I guilty by association? Can I not be friends with someone who was accused and banned for that before? I'm literally trying to pin guilt on myself at this point and it's still not making any sense.

TL;DR: I've never been banned before. I even set my little "good behavior" icon before this ban. I've done nothing but support the game and grind hard. I've probably got in between 1000-1500 total Ranked games. My progression from Season 2 to Season 5 has been a steady Bronze to Platinum. I have never boosted my MMR and I was banned for it.

Riot makes an arrogant claim that they are 100% certain that they are correct. They aren't. This is the advice I can give you:

  • Don't ever play at a friend's house.
  • Don't make major changes to your Runes or Masteries.
  • Get rid of any of your friends who have been banned for MMR boosting before.

Your performance history does not matter. Check mine. There is nothing abnormal. There is no huge climb. There are no strange champions. It's just me playing League of Legends.

I have to assume I was banned for one of the above three things, which Riot's pages even claim are perfectly legal and allowed. You are at risk if you do those things, because that's all I ever did. Thanks for reading.

292 Comments

RiotKeyru113 votes

I decided to investigate your account and confirmed that it was in fact boosted. I can see how this might be forgotten as the boosting only occurred during your 2015 placement matches earlier this year.

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The closest thing that might cross even the biggest skeptic's mind would be my placement matches, where I duo'd with a friend for all 10 games and we played super aggressive bottom lanes. We'd play stuff like Syndra or Riven support, and I think I finished 8-2 or 9-1. But, I've had higher win streaks than 8 or 9 before. There's no way they use that as their criteria for flagging someone as a booster. And, like I said, I'm Platinum IV right now. I was Platinum last season. Does that ring any alarms to you?

Looking into the placement matches, you never played Riven or Syndra support. What was interesting in this case was that your duo queue friend through these games was also flagged by the system and had a booster playing on their account at the same time.

Browsing the ranked games played after placements throughout the 2015 Season, you definitely proved to having the skills and capabilities to play and earn a spot at the Platinum level and I am positive you will be able to accomplish this in the next season. That being said, the boosting case is pretty clear and I stand by the decision we made.

There are many factors the system takes into consideration before flagging an account. I know many players are asking for evidence in regards to MMR Boosting punishments but we don’t reveal much information pertaining to our investigations to protect our methods of detection. This is especially true to those who would exploit the knowledge to try and not get caught in the future.

MacbethAndCheese1 votes

Are you 100% sure? Why would he lie about something so easily proven?

Edit: I was just making sure, because it would seem stupid to lie about an easily proven point. Like walking up to someone and saying your hair is pink...

qetzel15 votes

The OP may believe that it isn't easily proven. If it is, Riot doesn't show the evidence anyway for reasons already stated, and so the OP may believe they at least have a chance of getting the punishment removed.

SuperLuigiLXIV12 votes

Still doesn't make sense. The OP was already in Plat last season. Keyru stated in his post that the OP is clearly good enough to be where he is.

Nobody risks getting banned to be boosted to where they're already ranked at.

elduris10 votes

Logically, you'd be correct. If I knew I could play at a Plat level, why pay a booster to play on my account? There are two reasons I can think of.

  1. I don't have the time to play my placements right now, so I will pay someone to play them for me at the level I can play at.
  2. I'm not confident in my ability to do well in placements and don't want to get placed in bronze, so someone else can do it for me.

In this particular situation, this is the reasoning I imagine the OP had when deciding to get boosted. To anyone else it seems unnecessary, especially if you can already play at that level. Keep in mind, however, that just because you are considered "boosted" doesn't mean you pay someone to increase your rank significantly. Letting anyone else play ranked on your account can be considered "boosting", even if you don't advance several tiers.

Ferg0013 votes

@Keyru

Just out of interest, could/would you be punished for duoing with someone who was being boosted with no knowledge of it?

I know it's impossible to prove that you have no knowledge, but say you did 3/10 of the placements with them, then they started boosting and you were unaware of this and then invited them to duoQ in order to finish off your placements.

(Edit: Man these forums suck for when people reply to your comments...)

disregardable6 votes

Looks like that happened to this guy, so, yes.

Orisi11 votes

Keyru explicitly stated that BOTH accounts were found to have been boosted during that time. So he isn't being punished for playing with a boosted account, only For his own boost.

disregardable5 votes

Yes, his account is considered boosted because his friend's account had a booster, not because he actually boosted his account himself.

elduris16 votes

No.

{quoted} Looking into the placement matches, you never played Riven or Syndra support. What was interesting in this case was that your duo queue friend through these games was also flagged by the system and had a booster playing on their account at the same time.

RiotKeyru28 votes

A player would not be punished for duo'ing with someone breaking the Terms of Use unknowingly.

WaruMonzae1 votes

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A player would not be punished for duo'ing with someone breaking the Terms of Use unknowingly.

Is it possible that you can look into my case here? whether you do it publicly or privately doesnt matter, riot support is being very slow and you seem to be active atm and i would appreciate it. I was discusing with another forum member about the duo and they said its very possible the duo is what got me slapped with the ban hammeri, is this true?

RiotKeyru18 votes

I'm not currently at work with the tools to look into your suspension but if you were banned for MMR Boosting, this was not due to duo queuing and through detection of boosting on your account.

Caytheles1 votes

I have a Question, I was stuck in silver for a very long time, Me and an IRL friend decided we would duo after months of fearing we would bring eachother down. so we did, Since i am usually a support main and she is a Top main, we decided to do just that but ended up losing, We noticed an enemy using Leona and Mordekaiser and they dominated. So for the rest of the journey to Gold, i took on Morde as an ADC and she took up Leona as the support role. (Big Note, I hardly ever played Mordekaiser and i was winging the First game played with him in ranked because i we didnt know what the rework did and i didnt play him almost at all) And she hardly played Support due to her getting top lane.

This is a Very big change in Gameplay behavior on our part with runes and masteries and championwise, So i want to know, How would you know if we were boosting or not?

We did not boost btw, we just saw an OP strat on the enemy and tried it out and made it work.

RiotKeyru21 votes

There are many variances looked into to determine if a player was boosting. In the situation you mentioned, you would not be punished for boosting.

I will say that Mordekaiser/Leona bottom is definitely a brutal lane. :)

Seekêr1 votes

So, I started truly climbing ranked this season. I just hit gold 5 and I've been performing pretty well. I have a couple mains with really good stats. I'm afraid to play ranked in fear of being falsely banned. I've gone to the extent of recording ALL of my games.

My question is, what can Riot do or say about this player paranoia that is obviously becoming an issue among players due to the lack of support/evidence presented by Riot regarding bans placed.

To me this seems arrogant of Riot and needs to be addressed. I'm thinking of making back up accounts just because I'm afraid of being wrongfully banned, seeing all these "falsely banned" posts.

Daen5 votes

[{quoted}](name=Orphic Greed,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=NIyHz2Aj,comment-id=002e00010001000200000004,timestamp=2015-09-30T15:03:14.419+0000) To me this seems arrogant of Riot and needs to be addressed. I'm thinking of making back up accounts just because I'm afraid of being wrongfully banned, seeing all these "falsely banned" posts.

I'm not sure this thread is a particularly good example, seeing as Keyru convincingly debunked the OP's claims of innocence.

Gimilee10 votes

Thank you for putting in your time to check. I just logged in to comment on how much i love the riot support that actually respond to the players. :)

HAIL WHYDRA6 votes

Get call out. Dang, Riot is on point.

Nefas2 votes

I have a lot of doubts about this but all that aside - can you explain why the account is being flagged just now if you say the only boosting occurred during placements months and months ago? That seems super weird. Or does that get into Riot's detection methods?

Mike170323 votes

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Looking into the placement matches, you never played Riven or Syndra support. What was interesting in this case was that your duo queue friend through these games was also flagged by the system and had a booster playing on their account at the same time.

And this pretty much sums it up.

First off the OP knew he was guilty during these matches, and that is why he mentioned them in the first place. There is no reason this would have even crossed his mind if he didn't already have a guilty mind over it.

Second he didn't even remember what champs he had played.

Him and his friend paid to be boosted. Props to Riot for coming out with a clear specific answer, at least as much as they can without giving away secrets that would allow cheaters to cheat better. People are obviously afraid of their accounts getting false flagged, so it's good that they are communicating like this. And it is nice to know that someone at Riot will take a second look for you if it does happen.

Archon X74 votes

there have been several such threads lately about bullshit bans for mmr boosting and I'm really starting to believe you guys that someone at Rito has a bug up their butt and is taking it out on random people.

Dorans Shuriken44 votes

whether its true or not, we might as well upvote in the hopes that a rito employee at least looks it over. innocent until proven guilty. i feel anyone banned should be presented with the proof they used to ban them

Trumpet9 votes

But if they give that proof then boosters can use it to find a way around the system.

I remember Lyte saying something along those lines, because it can create a weakness in their system.

Jari10 votes

At the same time, they not only waited over half a year to do this to him, but the refusal to show anything could also say that they messed up, but don't want to admit it.

It goes like that. He's saying there's no proof of him boosting. Riot is saying there is proof, but refuses to show it. You know what would happen if someone in a court room said they had proof, but refuse to show it? They can lose right then and there. Why? Because it's another way to say, "There is proof, but it's proving me wrong, so I won't show it to try and keep my side clean."

SmokedAlmonds6 votes

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At the same time, they not only waited over half a year to do this to him, but the refusal to show anything could also say that they messed up, but don't want to admit it.

It goes like that. He's saying there's no proof of him boosting. Riot is saying there is proof, but refuses to show it. You know what would happen if someone in a court room said they had proof, but refuse to show it? They can lose right then and there. Why? Because it's another way to say, "There is proof, but it's proving me wrong, so I won't show it to try and keep my side clean."

They don't ever give much information on things like this because it allows people to reverse engineer the detection methods.

In court you have rights. Here you only have the privileges that riot decides to gives us.

Jari6 votes

If riot stating it was these few games, pointing out the awkwardness of them and such, is going to 100% screw their thing over, then their system is bad. We aren't asking for deep in details on how it detected it. According to Riot over on the Reddits, he MMR boosted early in, during his 10 placement games. He already said what he did and he was with a friend. If they can't point out the games, then they aren't helping.

Not to mention they try to pull the same thing every ticket. They spam you with automated responses that don't help. Remember how they said they were putting in a Blitzcrank bot to answer tickets, and if you still need help after the FIRST AUTOMATED RESPONSE then you'd get actual people help?

Oh wait.

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All responses you received in the past came from real live human beings reading your tickets.

-BlueFire

I forgot those automated messages they send you aren't counted as automated because an employee had to press the button for it. More reason why we have to keep demanding.

Xonra8 votes

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But if they give that proof then boosters can use it to find a way around the system.

I remember Lyte saying something along those lines, because it can create a weakness in their system.

And by giving no proof it allows them to just ban whoever they want and not have to tell you why outside of saying "You did X. We banned you. Bye". You are comfortable with that?

SmokedAlmonds13 votes

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And by giving no proof it allows them to just ban whoever they want and not have to tell you why outside of saying "You did X. We banned you. Bye". You are comfortable with that?

It allows them to do that, but that doesn't at all mean they are doing that. In this case I would say protecting detection methods is more important than showing any proof.

Laughing Fish5 votes

Why would they just randomly ban people? More players = more money. Rito has motivation to keep the maximum number of people playing, and banning people just for laughs goes against that.

Zielmann19 votes

Perhaps something leads them to believe you were boosting MMR for other people, rather than you having your MMR boosted? Not accusing you of this, it's just another angle to consider in your thought processes. Mostly commenting here to be able to easily check back, in case this does get some sort of response. I'm curious to see how these resolve.

Craig13 votes

Someone would have to be really desperate to ask a Platinum IV Support to try and boost their MMR. I've never done it and never will. The only thing that interests me in League is progression in Ranked, and this ban has taken that away from me after I've worked really hard on it.

Pahimakas2 votes

What leads them to believe you elo boosted was during September 13 - Septemmber 19. You increased 100 lks in 6 days which brings up the basic curve. You "suddenly" got better and progressed than you normally did, but it's one of my theories of you being banned. Idk, i call bs and i'm sorry for the ban.

Manwalrus10 votes

Watch out everyone...you'd better not go on winstreaks or else you'll be brought down by the mighty ban hammer.

TurquoiseYoshi19 votes

Major changes to Runes or Masteries? That... makes no sense.

It's like saying "You bought some groceries. YOU MUST BE A RAPIST!"

Craig6 votes

I don't know, I'm just throwing absolutely everything out there that comes to mind. I didn't do anything and if there was a way to link my entire match history for this season then I'd love to do it.

WhiteMriswith13 votes

For the people that are believing the OP: I want to point something out to you. Assuming that the OP is telling the truth about everything, how does that make Riot wrong? What does Riot see? This account starts logging in from random IP addresses, changes runes and masteries, and plays in aggressive and unfamiliar styles. This causes an increase in MMR gains. What does that look like to you? It looks EXACTLY like someone getting boosted.

Personally I think the OP is full of shit. I think s/he was boosting and is mad they got caught. Go, Riot, Go!

Craig6 votes

What MMR increase? Rioter claims it happened "early in the season." I was Gold early in the season. I was Platinum last season, and now this season. How does this make sense? And my Runes and Masteries weren't changed early in the season, they were changed just last week actually. If Riot's client wasn't so terrible and allowed me to change ordering of them, I wouldn't have had to.

Sir Yamazuki13 votes

Not sure why no one noticed that he has 1 loss as Syndra and both his Riven games were losses, meaning he couldn't go 9-1 or even 8-2 if that's when he played Riven and Syndra "support". Although, you can search Riven in his ranked history and you'll see he never supported as Riven for those 2 games anyways it was mid+top and Syndra he went mid.

I don't know why people feel the need to instantly side with someone who has been punished and assume Riot made a mistake when within their own story there are lies.

Craig7 votes

If someone from Riot checks this, please look at ticket #18814299. Again, I didn't make this thread to shit on you guys or look for an apology or create a hatewagon. I literally just want this fixed, and this is the only way I know how to get attention.

MalzaharAnyLane10 votes

The Reddit thread shows they found you boosting in the start of this year, not in the last six months.

Xonra8 votes

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The Reddit thread shows they found you boosting in the start of this year, not in the last six months.

Scrimbul, I totally have proof that you also elo boosted at the start of this year.

I mean, I'm not going to prove it, or share it with you to allow you to argue the fact, or even prove that it IS a fact, but people should believe me now because I claimed it.

I mean, that's how this works right? You just say it with no proof what so ever and it is now a fact.

Red Ryu6 votes

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Scrimbul, I totally have proof that you also elo boosted at the start of this year.

I mean, I'm not going to prove it, or share it with you to allow you to argue the fact, or even prove that it IS a fact, but people should believe me now because I claimed it.

I mean, that's how this works right? You just say it with no proof what so ever and it is now a fact.

Irrelevant and misses the point as the why they don't openly share everything.

Xonra4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Red Ryu,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=NIyHz2Aj,comment-id=0018000000010000,timestamp=2015-09-29T23:34:47.357+0000)

Irrelevant and misses the point as the why they don't openly share everything.

The "reason" they won't share is actually nothing, as no one from riot has said as much in response to this, and the assumed reason is it will show some detection methods to others, which is awfully convenient to state as a refusal to show proof to just the OP.

He never asked for it to be publically shared, just wanted answers himself. That is a flimsy excuse at best.

Red Ryu5 votes

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The "reason" they won't share is actually nothing, as no one from riot has said as much in response to this, and the assumed reason is it will show some detection methods to others, which is awfully convenient to state as a refusal to show proof to just the OP.

He never asked for it to be publically shared, just wanted answers himself. That is a flimsy excuse at best.

Security reasons, revealing the method giving insight how to boost without being caught if the OP shared everything public Riot told him, potentially reveals private information.

I could go on.

Xonra5 votes

[{quoted}](name=Red Ryu,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=NIyHz2Aj,comment-id=001800000001000000000001,timestamp=2015-09-29T23:47:37.261+0000)

Security reasons, revealing the method giving insight how to boost without being caught if the OP shared everything public Riot told him, potentially reveals private information.

I could go on.

That's a complete cop out response, and I'm sorry to state it that bluntly, but it is. They could then use that excuse for literally everything, and never again have to share the reason for punishing or banning anyone.

You were banned for being toxic "Where?" we can't tell you that or it could compromise our detection methods.

You were botting and banned "When?!" we can't tell you that or it could compromise our detection methods.

You are perma banned for coughs some words "I'm sorry what?" We can't tell you that or it could compromise our detection methods.

They can use that excuse for every case of punishment and they would be well within their rights to do so. They only share info otherwise because they choose to, but they could just as easily do it for the smallest things.

Also, they HAVE in the past shared info about finding out about MMR/Elo boosting because they have publically shared the info about Pro players before, so choosing not to do it for players is just picking and choosing when it is convenient to pull that card.

Verxint7 votes

No system is without false positives. Theoretically, it should be rare.

The big problem I see here is how difficult it seems to get ahold of someone for a review.

DrCyanide1 votes

Do you have a smurf?

Godaren8 votes

{quoted}

Do you have a smurf?

don't think they punish smurfing considering every pro smurfs on a regular basis

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