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Getting sick of the Dictatorial Meta enforcement

Damagefox··4 votes·619 views

Seriously. Who said it is YOUR job to tell people what they Can and CANT play as thier roles. I thought normals were about expermienting with new metas, trying new things. I am a support main, and Yes I happen tohave good luck playing as A Jhin Support. My adcs get fed, I make sure they get plenty of gold (almost always start with relic shield). And I generally have good games most of the time. Then I get these arrogant self-centered little preschoolers who act like they just received the hall monitor badge and start enforcing the meta harder than north korea. I generally avoid the usual supports because a) they are too predictable, and thus easy to work around. and B) I enjoy the strategy and planning needed to take a non support champ and make it work as support. With my play style and the strategy involved, I do well at leashing down enemies and handing them off to adc for last hit. But I am sick of being reported (correct me if I am wrong but you cant report someone for thier CHAMPION CHOICE), they make up some excuse, intentionally ban jhin (MY OWN TEAM BANS JHIN). Or punish me by, in the case of my last 3 matches, Intentionally ABANDONING BOT LANE. They are mad I wont play what or how they want (Some even said they DONT CARE about the winning streaks i have with a support jhin) and are Tyrant-like in the rigid enforcement of THIER META.

SO I ask again. Who put these spoiled little tantrum kids in charge of dictating what champion people can play, how they can play, when they can play, and under what circumstances. Answer: NO ONE. So do me a favor and STFU about telling me How to play my own role. In a way that has worked for me countless times. all because it doesnt fit in with your precious little book that tells you the only times a champ can be played My Own Champ My Own strategy My own Victories.

DEAL WITH IT.

16 Comments

Narvuntien2 votes

You should find 4 other people that share your goals and play 5 man teams.

You can't expect a bunch of strangers to have to deal with your hair brained schemes for at least 20 min

Damagefox1 votes

How is it a hair brained scheme if it works. Gotten an adc ashe fed to 20/10 adc gnar 14/8 the good games iHave had were because people understood the plan and were willing to try, and they got fed. The games I lost were people who acted like: These are the champs you CAN play These are the champs you CANT play This is How you are allowed to play your role This is the approved build, this is not an approved build. You must do this at these times... AND DONT YOU DARE try any thing yourself.

They treat the meta like if you go against it, you just punched a puppy or something.

Narvuntien1 votes

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How is it a hair brained scheme if it works. Gotten an adc ashe fed to 20/10 adc gnar 14/8 the good games iHave had were because people understood the plan and were willing to try, and they got fed. The games I lost were people who acted like: These are the champs you CAN play These are the champs you CANT play This is How you are allowed to play your role This is the approved build, this is not an approved build. You must do this at these times... AND DONT YOU DARE try any thing yourself.

They treat the meta like if you go against it, you just punched a puppy or something.

When it works you are a genius when you fail you are a troll. find people that share your view or you will be pissing people off.

Damagefox1 votes

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When it works you are a genius when you fail you are a troll. find people that share your view or you will be pissing people off.

And How can I find people if even Mentioning the possibility of "Hey I have been doing this for a while, its got me quite a few wins" automatically gets me flamed, trolled, and reported as a troll because a strategy I have worked out for myself, that works for me. Isnt on the pre-approved list. Cant find people who share your views, if even mentioning said views instantly gets you reported as a troll. Just for speaking them.

Narvuntien1 votes

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And How can I find people if even Mentioning the possibility of "Hey I have been doing this for a while, its got me quite a few wins" automatically gets me flamed, trolled, and reported as a troll because a strategy I have worked out for myself, that works for me. Isnt on the pre-approved list. Cant find people who share your views, if even mentioning said views instantly gets you reported as a troll. Just for speaking them.

The people I play league with is legitimately the brother of an acquaintance's friends it just a web of people, I play with one once then then other added me and suddenly I had a team.

Also.. I may of added a girl from OKcupid just to play league with. :/.

Shonjl1 votes

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And How can I find people if even Mentioning the possibility of "Hey I have been doing this for a while, its got me quite a few wins" automatically gets me flamed, trolled, and reported as a troll because a strategy I have worked out for myself, that works for me. Isnt on the pre-approved list. Cant find people who share your views, if even mentioning said views instantly gets you reported as a troll. Just for speaking them.

Ignore them, like, not trying to be rude but you are taking this so out of proportion that its getting kinda sad. You aren't required to read the chatbox. Don't say why you are picking it, just do it. At most just say like one thing. If people are rude just mute them. The button is there for a reason.

As long as you do your job right that is all that matters. There is no rule in the game that says you have to do ADC/SUP bot, etc.

There is no reasoning with a lot of people in this game so just simply don't. Most people don't have anything of worth to say so its easier to either mute them to save yourself some headache or just laugh at them and move on and ignore it. I usually just troll the person in chat a bit and then just ignore it for the rest of the game if I get idiots, you should as well.

DemainaNyx2 votes

If you are doing it in normals, and assuming you aren't doing dumb things like feeding or trolling your team, I don't see a problem with it.

I've been against teams of all assassins v our standard team comp in a normal game. I was against an Anivia Poppy bot lane that kept murdering my support with the wall/heroic charge combo. I had a normal game where our mid wanted to play Varus and the rest of our team decided to play AD champs. Our mid decided to take Ziggs and then complain all game about how if they had just let him take Varus, maybe we'd be winning, and my entire team just responded with "if you wanted to play Varus, then pick Varus."

For whatever reason, people seem to take this game too seriously. If it were ranked, I can understand wanting to have a more standard team comp, but that doesn't mean you still can't pick whatever or do whatever. I had a game recently where, as Bard, I used my ult to stop their MF from ulting. Apparently our Poppy had decided to turn on MF at that point as well and got caught in it also. I was told to "stop ulting" because of that. People are going to do whatever they want to do, the best thing you can do is just try to ignore them and enjoy your game to the best of your ability.

Damagefox1 votes

No I understand that everything must be done within reason. But as far as My experience, as I said I find more enjoyment in taking Non-support champions and seeing in what ways they could be used as a "demi-support". Not full support, but enough to help get the adc fed as well as be a general Pain in the a$$ for the enemy adc. The way I see it. Support is pretty much any champion that either provides a buff to your team through heals or boosts, or hinders the enemy effectively enough that the ADC can farm effectively. And Jhin has enough Slows, stuns, pokes, leashes, traps, and general annoyance to fill that second role. He can keep the enemy adc and support pestered just enough to be a distraction while ally is able to farm. and as far as I have seen by my efforts with A support jhin, it kinda falls in the same realm as how "Support Vel'koz" started.

His Q is good for leashing, can be used to help poke...keeps enemy from being able to farm unhindered. His w is good for both poke/Leash. If the enemy gets too close, jhin can draw a line between enemy and ally adc. If ally adc has hit them, it can be used as a stun to allow the ally adc more time to get away. W can be used in combo for further slowdown/stun should the enemy be escaping. or if your ally needs to get away while being chased. R is both a gap closer and a good kill lockdown for the support: Use R to slow down enemies enough for adc to get in close. Or if enemy adc escapes, it could be used to "Finish the job" before the enemy adc can get to safe space and recall.

Tricky to use efectively, requiring good timing, intuition and setup, but a beast when it is done right.

The problem is. These players are So hung up on champions having thier "assigned roles" that they are unwilling to give anything else even consideration!. As I said, my teammates were bargaining the other team to report me ("Hey, we will report your >insert champ< if you will report our vel'koz"). Why? Becuase nowhere on his stats page/info does it say "Mage, SUPPORT". It doesnt say support, so playing velkoz is a support is not allowed...like EVER. and I will repeat, This is in NORMALS. Normal Draft Pick. (generally been chased away from ranked sinse last year)

Its the idea that "This is the champs you can chose from, and ONLY these ones. If you try your own strategy,if you say 'hey lets try this..." you will immediately be flamed, trolled, generally seen as "not a part of the team"...and finally reported for your "troll pick".

Yes there are limits to what can be done, But its gotten so bad that even the mere THOUGHT of trying something outside the pre-approved meta, will get you labeled as a troll, reported, and there is nothing you can do to stop it. I have told people about my winning streaks as an off meta champ. and thier response was "I dont care about winning. I want to have fun. You have to play a PROPER support" Ok...so he wants to have fun. But because I am support I am not allowed to play something -I- enjoy, something I am good with?

Sorry for the ranty length but I have been sitting and watching this for a LOOONG time and its finally gotten to the point where it just irritates me to no end.

League of legends: NO INDIVIDUALITY ALLOWED. Thats what I get.

Shonjl2 votes

My whole thing with non meta picks is you better make it work. If I go bot lane and you want to do Jhin support, I won't say anything since I give the benefit of the doubt.

If you do good I will congratulate you, if you fail though then yes I will probably say a few choice words since there is a high chance doing a non meta or troll pick was the reason it happened.

Btw Vel Koz isn't a troll pick. He is no different than Annie or Brand when he was Sup. They aren't actual supports, they are AP carries that just turn bot lane into a kill lane. And if I might add, Vel is pretty damn good too. Sure he may take all the kills but hell, I get all the farm and they are dead, as far as I am concerned, they did their job. If the enemy is dead or away or just out of my face, that is what an ADC wants.

Damagefox2 votes

I understand. I was using the velkoz thing because when Velkoz supp was just starting out, People would mention velkoz supp and be told ot "Pick a Proper support" If you look him up in the shop, it says Mage. It doesnt say Mage, Support. So Because it doesnt SAY it on his stats. people act like taking him as a support is intentionally trolling. Like the thought of taking a champ outside thier -assigned- roles is considered blasphemy. Thats what I mean. I had someone even tonight try and report me for taking Vel'koz support as a backup choice after they INTENTIONALLY banned jhin in order to sabotage me. THEY didnt want me to play jhin SUpport, So they intentionally made sure I couldnt. and when I went vel, they reported me because vel wasnt a "real" support. (according to them). They just kept saying "Jhin and Velkoz arent supports"

Angry Monster2 votes

proof that what you do is wrong

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/45477829

you have negative win rates on your 5 most play champs. At the level you play at you are never good, your enemy is just happens to be making bigger mistakes than you.

at some point you have to understand that you do not have a good enough grasp of the game to have people others trust you and that any testing that you are doing is invalid cause of the skill level of the players involved.

Randomonium2 votes

Are you high or something? You average a 1.62 KDA and have a 19% win rate in ranked on Jhin. You build absurd things on him like BotRK and Athene's and Rageblade.

If this is what you call being successful with a champion then I'd hate to see what you consider failure.

I'm fine with off meta picks but when you're obviously horrible with them and you build horrible items on them I don't blame your team for dodging or banning Jhin away from you. Your match history looks like you're hardcore trolling. Can you really blame them?

Dealth1 votes

Enforcing the meta harder than North Korea?

Damagefox2 votes

They act liek having your own strategies, your own ideas, Is = trolling

I go support jhin, They tell me how jhin isnt a "proper" or "real" support. If I continue to go for jhin, they intentionally ban him. So I usually go with my backup, Vel'koz as support. and they scream and cry and have a fit calling for the other team to report me because I went supp vel and not a "Real" support. (one of the pre-approved supports)

Taric the Gay1 votes

I get told not to play top or jungle a lot. I just tell them I will gladly take the support role if they feel so strongly about my choice of champion. I do well no matter where I go but the moment things turn out poorly for my team it's my head on the chopping block. And compliments for me are given reluctantly. Generally I get complimented more by players on the opposing team than my own when I go top or jungle. Which says something when I am a support main.

It's ok to go off meta but I still like to ask my team before hand. I do this as a general rule and to be nice. They're more open to it if they see it in lobby and have time to plan accordingly. There are some champions who are less ideal for having Taric on their team.

http://www.auplod.com/u/ulaopd785ed.png

Elisheva1 votes

Ignore. Lock. Done.

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