Kindred: Day 1 - What're your first impressions of playing with, as, and against Kindred so far?

Deep Terror Nami··1 votes·467 views

Did you like playing as Kindred? With a Kindred? Against it? Do you feel you need to use a ban against them (other than to deny a teammate from using it first time in your game)?

Post your thoughts.

14 Comments

fasega2 votes

I have lost and won with her on my team and I think she works very well actually. The main problem I noticed is that because you now have 2 adc on your team with her you need a tanky top and support to peel constantly.

IcyPepper1 votes

Is it possible not to have an ADC bot lane?

Or maybe have a mage/support duo bot lane, with an assassin mid?

I think Riot's encouraging us to think outside the box here. Hell, I do'nt think you need to build Kindred like a carry, I think they can be built as a duelist bruiser.

Tilomentry1 votes

What, you mean like have a giant hulking metal man, lumbering around and bashing peoples faces in with a mace instead of a marksman? HA! What a silly idea. Who would ever consider trying to do such a thing?

fasega2 votes
  1. "Is it possible not to have an ADC bot lane?" You could do this as she does seem to do the same amount as a regular adc would. Her playstyle is very similar to kalista as she can constantly dash around.

  2. She is very squishy so you are going to need a brick wall of a champion in front of her. The reason I said you need a tanky top and support to peel constantly is because in our match I noticed our the top laner (Nasus) had to stay with kindred otherwise she would die and our support (Ali) had to stay with our adc. The rule of never leave your adc alone still applies to kindred so you need 2 people for both her and the adc, since your mid laner usually cant do this the top laner has to.

Here is the link if your interested http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/1979991286/212147412?tab=stats

Karn Bishop1 votes

small correction you have one adc on team and one ad caster in the jungle, shes not an true adc just like urgot.

fasega1 votes

She is in the marksman class however since the adc role has been only marksmans for years most people just call them adc for short. Also you have have more then on adc on you team.

Karn Bishop2 votes

Playing as her i quite enjoy her and her hopping mechanics, I find she works best with allies that like and are capable of long drawn out fights like Volibear Leona Blitzcrank Garen Thresh Braum Also of note is she synergizes very well with good Anivia players and can kite around while her egg forms reviving.

Playing with her, ive only played with/against one kindred each and they both went the devourer route and had hot steamy loads dumped on them, shes an ad caster like urgot and trying to build her like vayne or cait will get you instantly deleted as these guys found out the hard way.

My recommended build setup, black cleaver is pretty core for the CD, movespeed, HP, and armor shred effects, besides that you should emphasize hp resist survival builds with exception to blade of the king and you should avoid devourers like the plague and instead focus on getting warriors or cinderhulk jung items since ad casters scale well with both armor pen and survivability.

So in short build her like you would urgot but substitute manamune out with blade of the king.

No i don't feel the need to ban it and the 4 times i picked her i was only questioned about it once and they accepted my reasoning for picking her into our team comp, told them she has the same hunting playstyle as eve and even her ult is usually used in the same way as counter engage/ a tool to turn the tables on a fight to win it.

Niyumi1 votes

I don't have enough IP or RP for Kindred, so I haven't played them yet, but I'd like to eventually.

Playing with a Kindred was interesting, since I helped her counterjungle (to get marks), and their kit makes things more fun, since you can dive and still live, you can slow them to death, all that. Her VO is kind of creepy, but I like her voice.

Playing against Kindred is also fun, since I have to protect my jungler's jungle from her, and it gives me a few picks early game if it marks a scuttle or something and I see them go for it.

I don't think they need a ban, they're not broken or weak, but they do seem to have an Azir-esque skill curve.

Overall though, a neat champ that I'd like to play one day (assuming her VO doesn't set off my anxiety). xD

ABlueQuaker1 votes

I enjoy her, but I don't like the way Riot has forced her into being a Jungler. Like, you can still get stacks from kills and you can still potentially roam and get Jungle camps as an AD Carry or Top Lane Kindred but it deliberately only marks camps on the opposite side of the map.

It doesn't mark Dragon. It doesn't mark Baron. It doesn't update if the camp has already been taken.

Karn Bishop1 votes

She would get destroyed bot lane vs any existing adc and they work out great in the jungle even if first clear is a little tough depending on what side you start.

The mark mechanic not vanishing when cleared right away is an intended mechanic other wise it would tell them where you were or where your enemy jungler is at any given moment, though currently there is a glitch where if you check n the camp is gone the marker doesn't vanish for you when confirmed with vision.

If your struggling with her as a jungler its likely due to trying to run and build her like an adc, when shes more of an ad caster like urgot.

ABlueQuaker2 votes

I meant when there's vision of it being taken. Even when an Ally takes it themselves whilst counter-jungling it doesn't update.

As for playing Kindred AD Carry, it's actually pretty decent and her mid-game is really solid because you can basically take bot, take dragon, mark Enemy Mid, kill Enemy Mid, Take tower, take the marked Raptors/Krugs/Scuttle on the Top side of the map and then back.

Nami and Braum are probably my favourite Supports to have just because of the chase potential they provide. E, W, Q, AA, Q, AA, Q, AA...

Chase for days. I find she works best with BotRK and TriForce into a generic Bruiser or AD Carry build depending on your Position/Role and the Match itself.

Karn Bishop1 votes

lel random downvotes, didn't know stating facts was downvotable, and on the vision thing i agree its a bit weird and i mentioned it as an exception in my initial post.

Now here is my problem with running her as an adc in the jungle, the moment you do that you forcfully restrict both top and bot supports pick pool to only champions with good aoe CC + tankiness, it also hurts mid who usually relies on having a beefy jungler to survive fights.

Statisticly building her like an ad caster bruiser looks bad in terms of damage and stuff but heres the cool part about doing it anyways, you get to live though the entire fight to use your ult when your primary carry needs it the most but going adc build means you must use it the moment you get engaged upon, basically for me its a matter of utility and supporting your team which are all good things on junglers.

tommyagun1 votes

She can carry well if you build right, if I get to jungle the game is over within 20mintues because I became a monster. She is gold reliant in my opionion to be able to get the items she needs. Her early game is her weakest point, so I recommend that people counter jungle her and she will became useless for awhile. She hits a power spike in mid game if built right and in the end game she is strong but not vayne strong.Kindred I think she might be played at mid more than jg because she can stack her passive well there and get ahead level and gold wise.

Karn Bishop1 votes

she is weak to counter jungling which is why you learn when to expect it and what junglers will do so, vs those champions you start your primary buff pref red and leave it at full hp n no red pots used, then clear as normal, this gives plenty of hp for safety and messes up most invade buff strategies.

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