Here is a list of things I think should be above Sona's nerf.

SexyTaylorSwift·Jan 6, 2015·8 votes·714 views

Lee Sin The permaban of Akali, Fizz, Kat, and Zed (not even saying these are OP, but they are permabanned so something needs done) Last whisper Urgot Olaf Zac Taric Ashe/Varus Azir Give Talon the ability to interrupt channels (not silence) Client PvP chat error In game crashes Servers East coast player's ping/reliability Intentional feeders Trolls Only allowing support to have 3 wards on the map Yasuo Morg's Q Lack of Riot feedback Sightstone being able to build into something with useful stats Stop nerfing Fiddles ffs Heim Hexdrinker Crit Inhib towers Towers in general

Edit #1: Summoner spells that are never used. Edit #2: Matchmaking. Seriously. Bronze players do not want to play with Plat/Diamond. "normal MMR" is not an excuse.

Not sure what else I missed, but feel free to add or comment.

20 Comments

SukishooJan 6, 20152 votes

Only allowing support to have 3 wards on the map

I think you mean everyone.

SexyTaylorSwiftJan 6, 20151 votes

Yes, but I am realistic. People don't even use their free trinket very effectively, I surely don't expect them to use real wards lol.

SukishooJan 6, 20152 votes

Well when I support I expect the team to ward effectively as it is a TEAM job not a SUPPORT job.

SexyTaylorSwiftJan 6, 20151 votes

Not disagreeing, as I buy my pinks and greens when playing all other roles, including ADC. But, I am not going to realistically expect my 1/5 mid laner to buy wards, because that is like expecting him to play well, which he has demonstrated he doesn't know how to do.

SukishooJan 6, 20151 votes

Well yeah if they are failing that badly then obviously keeping up with warding shouldn't be their priority.

SexyTaylorSwiftJan 6, 20151 votes

You say "if" as if my team isn't always like this lol.

AerothalJan 7, 20152 votes

good list! would read again!!!

SexyTaylorSwiftJan 6, 20151 votes

Bump.

SachabotJan 6, 20151 votes

Different teams. Different issues. Different approaches. Different solutions. Different speeds.

I don't understand why Sona is being nerfed, though.

SexyTaylorSwiftJan 6, 20151 votes

Right. But, Riot as a company does have a control what projects they put more resources into.

SachabotJan 6, 20151 votes

There are two resources Riot can manipulate: people and money.

The problem with the game industry is that it's so heavy on knowledge-specific roles by default. Some general knowledge is shared, of course, but they can't toss a guy from Sona's team to Olaf's team and just have things magically speed up, even if that guy is doing the same general thing. The only resource they can "freely" move is money, and that doesn't make things happen any faster. Ultimately, they've kinda dug themselves into a hole as far as issues go, and have decided on a plan to resolve them in the most efficient way possible. I think Riot is trying to reach a point where they don't have to Sion or Yorick another champion. It's just not work that can be done quickly.

SexyTaylorSwiftJan 6, 20151 votes

You mention that they can't drag a person from Sona's team to Olaf's team. I don't like this example because they don't hire people to work on one champ, unless I am mistaken. They hire a balance team to work on whatever they are given. So, I think a switch from Sona's team to Olaf's would in fact make it go faster. The more common argument I see is "dumbazz balance ppl dont wurk on servrz" to which I say that Riot can easily hire more people onto a server fixing team instead of hiring people to make skins and such.

SachabotJan 7, 20151 votes

They do, actually. Each champion has a "team" focused just on that champion. They work with part of the balance team (the whole team is dozens of people working on different things, I'd imagine you get a small number when problems need to be addressed). Sona's deal is also much smaller, so it's easier to resolve, whereas Olaf is having more work done.

And regarding servers, Surrender at 20 has Riot's next announcement regarding server issues. I know it's unrelated, but I thought you might like to know if you don't already.

SexyTaylorSwiftJan 7, 20151 votes

Yes, they have a different team on each character. They don't put out an ad for "Sona rework". It is essentially the same job, just given a different character to work on. That is like saying you have to hire two different people to paint your living room and bedroom. You might hire 2 people to each work on a project so that they can both be completed in a timely manner, but they aren't two different jobs that can't be interchangeable.

And yuppers, I did see that. They have been saying they had "plans" for awhile now, so I have trained myself not to get too excited over things like that. I will get excited when something happens lol.

SachabotJan 7, 20151 votes

So then in March? XD It's nice to hear something tangible, you know?

SachabotJan 7, 20151 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/ik9r8Es2-im-willing-to-sacrifice-the-next-champion-release-to-prioritise-fixes-and-reworks-for-old-champions

Scruffy talks about the rework team in this thread. From the sound if it, I was mistaken, and the normal team isn't involved in the rework much at all, which seems a little odd to me, but far be it from me to judge.

I feel like we're talking crossways at each other, like we've both misunderstood something somewhere.

foristJan 6, 20151 votes

Not saying I disagree with some of these changes, but you gotta consider what is easier to accomplish. It probably takes riot a much shorter time to simply lower someone's move speed than to let's say: rework olaf's kit. So, of course changes like base move-speed reduction are gonna happen much quicker than the long-standing issues with more technical balance changes. Honestly, we just got off x-mas and new years break, which even riot employees deserve too, so this pbe update is probably whatever they could accomplish in the 3-4 days after new years.

SexyTaylorSwiftJan 6, 20151 votes

Understood. That being said, those champs were in the works a lot longer than Sona. I have absolutely no reason to believe Olaf or anyone of his kind is even being looked at.

That isn't what I'm arguing here, either. I am arguing that nerfing a champ that doesn't nerfed is completely stupid when all these things are in the game lol. I literally have not seen 1 person ask for Sona nerfs...

foristJan 6, 20151 votes

Look, the mentality is: do the easier things first. That's the way its always been. Like why do you think talon was given a .25 sec slow in place of his silence instead of recieving a kit rework or a power balance? Simple, it was an easier fix, definitely not the right fix, but very easy to implement. Complicated balance changes like those will take time to test, whereas there is no doubt about how overbearing sona can be in lane when fed. They are simply trying to find the easiest solution to the problem.

SexyTaylorSwiftJan 6, 20151 votes

bump.