Support lane dominated by Thresh, Janna, Leona, Morg, and Braum.

SexyTaylorSwift··37 votes·2,719 views

Better nerf Sona.

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RedCyclone13 votes

Zed uncounterable even after buying 2 items just to play against him

Better nerf Sona

SexyTaylorSwift8 votes

Fizz, Akali, Kat, and Zed banned every single game....better nerf Sona.

Wullf1 votes

does not Azir counter him?

Nissasah1 votes

It's kind of even. Early Azir has mana problems so it's kind of even with the poking game. After first back Azir can poke him down but after lvl 6 Zed can kill Azir if he plays well, so kind of a skill match up.

SleepyLionCub5 votes

janna does 7 damage with all her abilites combined.

sona 1 shots squishes late game with q autoattack combo.

Deal with it.

SexyTaylorSwift11 votes

If you are getting 1 shot by Sona (how are you even talking about 1 shot with q + AA), you shouldn't be playing the game.

RedCyclone6 votes

Also has terrible CC, defensive and mobility options What pretty much every support in the game excels over her in

Sona builds AP because we have no option not to, thanks Fearless

Tin Tarantino1 votes

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janna does 7 damage with all her abilites combined.

sona 1 shots squishes late game with q autoattack combo.

Deal with it.

If you have manage to stack enough AP on Sona to 1 shot anyone who isn't on low health, the enemy team has severly goofed, also you still pop like a balloon at that point.

CoolKnightST4 votes

Thresh is not nearly as strong as he ones was

Janna will recieve a hugh nerf next patch (her Q width will be reduced with 30...)

Leona was always been strong if the meta is in her favor. It don't think riot plans any changes for her ever.

Morgana will be reworked in 2100 until than, deal with it I guess. The meta isn't in her favor right now.

Braum is not nearly as strong as he ones was.


So this is what I think will happen:

  • Janna nerfs will move aggressive supports Blitzcrank (probaly back to god tier), Thresh, Braum. But the most noticable change will be Leona that dominate solo Q
  • Morgana will move back up because she will again become the only solution against those aggressive supports.
  • Nami will move up & replace Sona
  • Some kind of damage support will rise to compensate for Sona

I believe the god tier list will look to something like this: Leona Morgana Blitzcrank (remember this patch??)

Fashion Mage1 votes

Funny, that's exactly what I foresee as well. I don't enjoy bot lane being stunlock central.

exiledFromBadmen1 votes

But Leona is pretty much funny :( Blitz too

demonsnake4204 votes

No offense to you Sona mains, but the nerfs aren't entirely unjustified. Sona is currently sitting at a little over 53% win rate, and since her rework has consistently been around that winrate. Then you'd argue "well, why nerf a champion that isn't even that popular?". First off, a champion's particular popularity isn't (and shouldn't be) the basis for why they are buffed or nerfed. Secondly, while Sona isn't the most popular of supports she also isn't the least popular either. She currently sits close to 10% popularity among supports; so not as popular as Thresh, Janna, or Leona but more popular than Braum and Morgana. Sona has good damage and good utility, which is really strong combo and can easily lead to imbalance. But then you could say, "Well, you shouldn't nerf or buff entirely based on win-rates alone" and you are right but it is an important factor to take into consideration. Plus, you have to take in mind that (whether you like it or not) some of the balance changes are based upon the opinions of the balance team (although at least their opinions aren't uninformed cause they get to see all relevant data); while Sona isn't the most popular supports, she is one of the more successful as such they probably believe her to be sleeper OP. Also, no offense again, but as a non-Sona main regardless of my feelings towards who and how Riot buffs or nerfs champions its hard to feel sympathy to Sona mains when literally every other thread on the boards is a post complaining about the nerfs. Most of these threads have not really had that great of record of including well written and thought out defense of Sona against said nerfs and instead have appeared to be little more than cireclejerks (for lack of a better term). I realize this is probably gonna get downvoted but hopefully some of you take something away from this and at least can somewhat see the reasoning behind why Sona is getting nerfs.

Ligerzz2 votes

Irelia has a new challenger;)

Rinky Dinky1 votes

#betternerfsona

cshakes1 votes

Honestly, I think that Janna and Leona are fine. They have counters (Morgana and all poke supports [Sona] for Janna, disengage and heavy poke supports [Morgana, Janna] for Leona). Morg is supposedly countered by heavy poke supports [Zyra] but I'm not all that sure. Thresh is bullshit. Braum is unkillable (maybe Zyra/Leona can kill him? idk).

What I would have done to supports:

  • minor nerfs to Morgana and Braum (base HP, MS etc)
  • minor buffs to Taric, Lulu, Karma, and other underplayed or underpowered supports
  • delete nerf Thresh
SexyTaylorSwift1 votes

I think these supports are fine as well. All I'm saying is that they are dominating support role, as in being picked all the time, yet they nerf a champ that isn't lol.

Magma Lux Mid1 votes

Braum is easy, just have to keep harassing him in lane so he can't stay in lane. Morg is weak to poke lanes if you avoid her skillshots, same with Janna. Leona you either have to poke down or lock down her AD if she tries to go in.

Thresh is just good all around.

You also forgot to mention Soraka.

NinjaToad991 votes

As long as people leave my support Lux to me I'm fine.


Patch Notes 4.22: We felt that Lux was just too dominate in the support role, so we're putting her back in line with the other caster supports, like Sona

Lucent Singularity: Slows enemies caught in the field for 20/24/28/32/36% 15% and then for 2.5 .2 seconds out of it Enemies damaged by Lucent Singularity are slowed by 20~~/24/28/32/36~~% for .25 .2 seconds

Prismatic Barrier: Shields allies for 80/105/130/155/180 (+35% of AP) for 3 seconds, shield refreshes and reapplies when hit with Prismatic Barrier again

Final Spark: Triggers and applies Illumination


...Crap...

slaya451 votes

Just to be clear, this isn't real right? The Final Spark nerf would be crazy detrimental to her gameplay.

NinjaToad991 votes

No it's not real, but if it becomes real I may cry for a few minuets.

Magma Lux Mid3 votes

Then I'd blame you for ruining my mid Lux Kappa

Grunt6661 votes

indeed nerf sona! because uhm... I cant think of a single reason why sona would get nerfed over all the other commonly played supports like thresh leona braum...

SexyTaylorSwift1 votes

Because rito logic

SexyTaylorSwift1 votes

bump

Space Bum1 votes

As for me, I would rather play support and end the game with top damage... Zyra

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