Why does rank decide what you can and cannot do on the boards?

doiminat0r3600··3 votes·522 views

Just because I'm silver doesn't mean that I cant offer suggestions on how to possibly fix things or even put in an input to the community.

I cant believe that a community would shun someone for being a lower rank than them.

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Angry Monster2 votes

You have the problem that most silver players think X is OP, so it must be true. Look at the majority of bad ideas and you will see they are silver or bronze. What most people think is a good reason is not.

Its not shame it based on the idea rank mean game understanding. Watch a bronze game and see all the weird shit that happens. The weirdness get less the higher you go up. The problem is that silver is almost half the player base. Their are plenty of wtf that goes on that can not be explained out side they do not understand what they are doing.

When was the last time you saw a gold or higher complain that they should be X but their team is holding them back on the boards? The negative impressions stick with us the longest.

doiminat0r36001 votes

Its not a "It must be true" kind of issue. Its that rank is so "important" that people's opinions are so quickly down voted because of it.

Angry Monster2 votes

Learn to provide legit proof instead of meaningless feelings. I feel that X is op in general is how most silvers post. Then make sure that what your saying is true and makes sense to everyone not just your self. If you fail to do those things people will just say ah silver or bronze.

Link me a post where you have legit ideas. (if you have one)

doiminat0r36001 votes
  1. Does Stating the fact that Katarina's ult does more damage than all of Kassadin's kit?

  2. My posts have a problem and a solution. But if the person doesnt agree, they downvote then claim its because im silver.

  3. Need proof?

  4. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/PiLTjN1B-katarina-ultimate-does-more-damage-then-kassadins-entire-kit

  5. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/vMmKPtEV-kat-balance-suggestion

Lack of experience bringing what people want to board topics doesnt mean it isnt a decent idea nor is it a reason to not look at it.

Angry Monster2 votes

point 1 does not matter. They have different kits and actually with R stacking Kass does more and has MR shield.

point 2 You are making complaints with out a solution, how original.... if its such a problem have a damn answer.

lack of experience bringing what people want to board topics doesnt mean it isnt a decent idea nor is it a reason to not look at it.

wrong? no i mean WRONG. Its your post people should not have to figure out what the fuck you want. Why make a post talking about something if you are not going to be clear. This lesson applies to real life.

I have seen those posts. Wow man are they bad. lets start with you using the word "WE". You do not talk for anyone but your self. Your pretty arrogant to think that you talk for me or any other player.

Your talking about an ARAM CHANGE!!!!! What the fuck is wrong with you? Its fucking ARAM champs kits do not get changed around. It defeats the fucking point.

The other one where you compare the 2 is badly done and completely ignores everything kassdin brings. You list only what you think will help you and do not even consider power budgets or the fact that kassdin has been the most problematic champion of the last 3 years.

Yeah you posts are trash, they are bronze tier not silver. I see why you get treated the way do. You clearly have no understand of game balance or power budgets. Your every reason people look down on silver. Congrats.

doiminat0r36001 votes
  1. Yes because its perfectly balanced for one champion's ability to have more damage than an equal champion's entire kit.
  2. There was a solution. Incase you didnt actually read my board posts
  3. Yes because pointing out issues that I see as a player of the game is an issue?
  4. Maybe you should go back and read my posts because if you find the word 'we' it refers to the ones that agree. Not the ones that disagree and decide to be rude about it.
  5. Yes, yes i am talking about ARAM snowballs. And what do you mean by "Its fucking ARAM champs kits do not get changed around. It defeats the fucking point." I didnt even know there was a point to ARAM (Other than short games). Nor has there ever been a rule about how those champions kits dont get changed around (although they can be played anywhere).
  6. I didnt even do that post about what Kassadin brings. It was just something I found and agree with. "Kassdin has been the most problematic champion of the last 3 years," Not exactly true. He was not as big of an issue as these: Ahri Akali Annie Evelynn Katarina Leblanc (are you getting the point)
  7. Power budgets? What things are these? Kits are overloaded all over. Why is power budgeting an issue for an older champion? Game balance shouldnt leave one champion useless because another can teleport or do more damage or does more cc. Your point on that is invalid.
Angry Monster2 votes

i am going to be really straight forward with you. You do not have a clue with what you are talking about. You are seeing problems cause they are in your head not cause they exist.

Stop while you only 6 ft into the ground. Any deeper and your going to find water and be able replaces all your tears.

FooDang1 votes

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  1. Does Stating the fact that Katarina's ult does more damage than all of Kassadin's kit?

Did you know Kassadin Q cancels Katarina Ult? If timed right you can say Kassadin Q does more dmg than Katarina ult...(drops mic)

doiminat0r36001 votes

Unless. You know. Its on cooldown. Which kat has a hard time keeping her cooldowns..

FooDang1 votes

Whoosh ...you missed my point #bronzeplays

BerserkGoldfish1 votes

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Learn to provide legit proof instead of meaningless feelings. I feel that X is op in general is how most silvers post. Then make sure that what your saying is true and makes sense to everyone not just your self. If you fail to do those things people will just say ah silver or bronze.

Link me a post where you have legit ideas. (if you have one)

the problem with what your saying is sometimes people in bronze-silver ELO actually do use proof numbers etc.

this is how the boards work with ranking.

bronzie been playing 4 years but doesn't rank due to not being able to commit the time creates a solid argument with reason and logic. its downvoted to oblivion by elitist trolls just because they are bronze, literally, often times the people cant even argue back why something is wrong other than "bronzie complaining LLOLOLLOLLOL ROFLCOPTER".

diamond player says the same thing but in the form of "XXX OP AS heck, I just lost to one, that means its OP" (paraphrased) and gets upvoted because the diamond player must be right.

heres what league forgets to remember (using the sports analogies) not every coach/announcer/analyst has the ability to back up knowledge.

Hex the FenFen1 votes

I know the feeling >_> Everyone assumes because we are Silver or whatever that we don't know how the game works and we are terrible players...which isn't true. I have seen higher ranked players make mistakes that I would never make in a game, so rank is not everything...

Angry Monster1 votes

there are less bad players are plat than at silver. Also plat players get a pass and people just assume that they are trolling or being stupid. Lower elos are considered to be always be bad

tonzillacrayon1 votes

well sure. but when you are giving your input about something and how it works in game chances are that you are wrong about how it works in the first place. Think of it this way would you rather listen to a pro baseball player about what needs changes or a little league player?

doiminat0r36001 votes

Well baseball and league are 2 seperate things completely. One has a set rules that arent persuaded by the spectaters and players unless there is overwhelming evidence to support it. league on the other hand has a huge community that most can agree on a few things, Assassins are OP and Supports dont have enough items (preferably item 2049).

tonzillacrayon1 votes

Not at all they have their differences but they are the same way any sport would work i could have used any baseball, basketball you name it. Assassins are not "op" at all they have loads of counter play and its funny because assassins are bad right now in the meta they work in solo que because players dont know the mini map exists or how to positing especially at your elo. Why should decent to good players have champions like that nerfed just because they are smart enough to do so? It should be on you to learn simple things about the game such as watching a map or where to stand not that its "too strong to handle" like it may appear to unskilled players. Supports dont have enough items? you can either build tank ap or the variety of support items that they just added??? what are you smoking?

doiminat0r36001 votes

I think assassins are rather OP considering that they always are able to snowball if they roam bot lane and get a successful gank.

the variety of support items that they just added???

What do you mean by that? They added Jungling Items. Smite bonuses. Im talking about something that Supports must have (for risk of getting flamed) item 2049. It only adds Health. Although most supports dont need health. Some, Soraka, probably needs some HP regen. Others such as Janna or even Nami can take use off an AP Sightstone.

tonzillacrayon1 votes

That again goes to the bad players positioning and map awareness thing i could do the same with annie a mage or syndra ect.

hp regen? the new coin?? Janna, Nami the blue starting item? You must be new to the game you didnt get those items back in the day. They are supports not ap bottom carry champions that build ap/ad.

doiminat0r36001 votes

Yes but even with good positioning, assassins can easily get to you and kill you without much resistance.

HP/man regen isnt very strong. Especially if its only 3 per 5. Its kinda useless if youre running Soraka or Janna . It would be extremely nice to have extra health/mana regen so that you could actually support instead sitting back near tower at low health/mana. These champions are meant for peeling and being unstoppable at doing this. Even if your ADC is absolute crap, you should be able to atleast assist them in getting away. Which cant happen if youre out of mana or health. Its crap that Tanks are better at peeling than champions that are meant to peel.

AJStarhiker1 votes

It's an ego trip. Just because some one doesn't want to grind into the upper ranks, doesn't mean they don't know the game. Or they might have extra accounts they don't use in ranked for posting to the boards.

doiminat0r36001 votes

I could care less about my ranking. I feel like most of them care too much and play for winning instead of wait for it

God forbid playing a videogame for fun.

Live2LetDie1 votes

I dont think anyone is shunning you or saying you cant put in your input. The thing is though you are handing out this advice, saying its something someone should work on, when you yourself haven't been able to put it in to use and get out of silver. Im not bashing you I am just saying its like taking advice from a kid on how to do taxes.

doiminat0r36001 votes

Its true, what you are saying. But what i cant believe is that I cant count how many times ive heard something related to how my rank says that i cant put in input.

Rootworth1 votes

Better start climbing! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

doiminat0r36001 votes

Oh.. So youre one of them.. Good to know that you dont make the community toxic.

Rootworth1 votes

LLOLOLOLOLOL!

Cindikle1 votes

Depends on the advice. The game played at silver and diamond are different. So while your advice might me accurate for where you are at. Players often want to know how to get to diamond. They don't care about silver mechanics, even if they are silver. And knowing those mechanics will get them to gold quicker than some trick they learned from a diamond.

It's also why a lot people view bronze->diamond smurf streamers as bad for the game. You often don't really learn anything. You just watch some guy stomp another most of the time. Says why he did it. Then you go and try it and realize it's not as easy as he said.

In short, too many people think they're in elo hell unless their diamond. So unless you're diamond you're opinion is equal to elo hell.

doiminat0r36001 votes

Its more of things that i see wrong with the balancing issues or giving opinions to balance a certain champion such as Katarina.

Cindikle2 votes

Ah, I usually ignore people who bring rank into balance discussions. Maybe I'd ignore someone in Bronze. But I'd at least check their win rate in ranked with that champion if I was going to respond in such a way.

If the player cannot describe why your idea may be bad, they how can they say their is right.

Kãtãrinã1 votes

Most lower elos just cry about something or another and declare Katarinas OP/Fizz is broken/REWORK my champion/cry cry cry/Ranked is to hard/you shouldn't loss much LP but i should gain a lot!/ETC. The list goes on honestly. A lot of people are silver and lower. Plat 5+ are only 10% of the community honestly, they are the top 10% . I'm currently the top 10.38% of league players. (as of this minute)

Sukishoo1 votes

It doesn't people are just arrogant and think it matters.

BerserkGoldfish1 votes

I should also add this, while there are tons of bronzies who honestly have no clue about the game, not everyone should be discretided instantly for it.

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