My problem with provisionals

Wasabo·1/1/2015, 11:05:31 PM·1 votes·734 views

Everytime I play a provisional game, someone in my team tries to troll, and hard. Like, raging, going afk, ignoring pings, or doing some stupid off meta build. Is there a way this is accounted for by Riot when figuring out where I'm placed?

BTW: I've been playing for a long time, with more wins than most of my allies (I have about 650 wins (that's not even total games though)), and the people I play with in provisional are MUCH worse than in normal pick (teambuilder). Why is this?

5 Comments

Willow Ninja1/1/2015, 11:17:48 PM1 votes

I'm not sure that the things your teammates do are accounted for, however i do believe your placement is affected based on your your personal performance (and if you win or lose of course).

I could be totally wrong and if someone knows exactly what the system is id love to know myself. But i think your kills deaths and assists each game effect it, as well as cs, possibly contribution to towers and drag/baron. Again i could be wrong and maybe its just straight up based on your place in the previous system/during preseason and your W/L for the placement matches.

A bit of advice, i don't do my placements for a season until at least a month in. I find people are too hectic at the start of the season from my personal experience. I like to wait until most other people are settled into they're elos/leagues and then end up (theoretically) playing my placement matches on teams that are genuinely trying to win

Eleshakai1/1/2015, 11:19:30 PM1 votes

Normal MMR is not taken into account for ranked play which is why you'll get placed in provisionals with people in seemingly weird ways.

Weenîe Hut1/2/2015, 12:58:04 AM1 votes

Let me break it down for you. Assuming you weren't higher than Silver the season before, (which you're not or else you'd have a gold badge) usually your provisional has a "base MMR" which is the Match Making Ratings that is calculated from your previous season performance that goes through a formula that basically "resets" your MMR.

Your Provisional works like this: You play a game at Base mmr (usually 1200-1300) and from there when you win, your MMR increases exponentially until you lose. When you lose, that is the provisional ceiling and your next game will be in between the MMR you won and the MMR where you lost. From there, if you're lucky, you're placed on the upper end of the middle ground or the lower end of it depending on who is currently queing at that time. But they're not that far apart. That being said, your early Provisional games will be games where you're at base MMR, meaning you're playing with people who have low MMR (high bronze low silver) OR people who haven't ranked yet (inexperience players). In both cases, don't expect Doublelift level of plays or the level that is equal to your level. In fact, it is a level where you are probably are better than. In that case, it is up to you and only you to perform above the MMR level (by a pretty high margin) to win the game for your team. Seriously. But that is why high elo players like Plat + Diamond stay consistent. They might lose their provis here and there, but if they finish their provis into silver for example, (which is very unlikely. They have to lose 10 games of the provisional while duoing with silver or bronze) if they are actually plat level, they'd get out of silver in less than a week. I can actually get to Gold from low silver/ high bronze in less than a week. I got hacked and when I recovered my account I found out the guy who hacked me sucked at this game.

Lil Kr1tz1/2/2015, 3:03:09 AM1 votes

wana duo? ive been wasting time as solo rank player due to trolls,and non communicating team... im silver 4 but ive also been playing since season 1.. (ofc ive quit for awhile and come back)

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