Should I get Leona or Nautilus

Whatevsman97·Sep 25, 2015·1 votes·1,649 views

Lookin for another support to buy, and these two have been on my list for a while. Problem is, I dunno which one to get. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

14 Comments

InphernalSep 25, 20152 votes

Leona Leona Leona Leona item 3190 Leona Leona Leona Leona

Nautilus item 3070

Whatevsman97Sep 25, 20152 votes

Maybe its your username, maybe it's your reply, something about you just tells me you prefer Leona.

ninjaIRL Sep 25, 20152 votes

Leona is a more reliable initiator. Leona is overall tankier. Leona has a more foolproof CC combo. (almost everything is instant) She really doesn't need a lot of defensive stats to be as tanky. She doesn't need much mana sustain.

Nautilus has a longer CC train. (a lot of his CC is noticeably more delayed). Nautilus actually has a knock-up, capable of knocking up entire teams. (good for Yasuos) Has mobility for emergency escapes. Is tougher to kill when his shield is up. Has really bad mana sustain. (Affects his tankiness bcz shield) High mana costs with low mana base.

The only reason that Leona might win is because she can stay in lane for longer if constant skirmishes are happening.

Professor WardSep 25, 20151 votes

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Leona is a more reliable initiator. Leona is overall tankier. Leona has a more foolproof CC combo. (almost everything is instant) She really doesn't need a lot of defensive stats to be as tanky. She doesn't need much mana sustain.

Nautilus has a longer CC train. (a lot of his CC is noticeably more delayed). Nautilus actually has a knock-up, capable of knocking up entire teams. (good for Yasuos) Has mobility for emergency escapes. Is tougher to kill when his shield is up. Has really bad mana sustain. (Affects his tankiness bcz shield) High mana costs with low mana base.

The only reason that Leona might win is because she can stay in lane for longer if constant skirmishes are happening.

hit the nail on the head

Professor WardSep 25, 20151 votes

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-history/NA1/219413341?matchType=2

my recent ranked games

buy nautilus, he is so damn broken its funny. i havve the longest win streak on lol cause of his op ass.... but as you can see i have a lil leona in there too, she is strong as well and id consider buying them both

AmazingBeaverSep 25, 20151 votes

Nautilus seems better , just because you can go bot, top , or jungle with him .

KaelnorSep 25, 20151 votes

Leona if you want more reliable CC, Nautilus if you want more reliable durability.

Professor WardSep 25, 20152 votes

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Leona if you want more reliable CC, Nautilus if you want more reliable durability.

i disagree and actually you have this slap backwards leonas only cc is her e/q which is much harder to land than nauts, and her ult, which is again much harder to land

The comparison is something like this

Leona- E/q through minions and hope your ult lands flush(much weaker in skirmishes as her e has horrid range)

Nautilus- q halfway across the lane for a temp stun, e for a 50% AOE slow that hits multiple times for 200 damage(5 sec cooldown so spammable),Auto attack root(again spammable in team fights), Point and click ult for multi knockup/yasuo synergy.

When comparing cc there isnt a champ in the game that can compare to nautilus, and when comparing durability there is no support that can compare to leona. Nautilus just isnt as tanky as leona ever.

KaelnorSep 25, 20151 votes

Hmmm I guess you are right in that regard. Still Leona has great CC, and Nautilus has great durability.

Professor WardSep 25, 20152 votes

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Hmmm I guess you are right in that regard. Still Leona has great CC, and Nautilus has great durability.

agreed

Maximum MordeSep 25, 20151 votes

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...and when comparing durability there is no support that can compare to leona.

Rammus, Cow and to a lesser extent Malphite and Taric are pretty compareable when it comes to durability.

Professor WardSep 25, 20151 votes

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Rammus, Cow and to a lesser extent Malphite and Taric are pretty compareable when it comes to durability.

agreed aside from the fact that ive never actually seen rammus support and malph taric and alistar usually are worse supports than leona (alistar can be used very effectively just has a much higher skill cap)

InphernalSep 25, 20151 votes

some pros and cons for op

Leona: +mana regen +strong sustain in lane +instaclear wards +very strong ult +constant CC chain in long teamfights +scales strongly with health +insane level 3 power spike +can control/zone multiple enemies at once during fights +great peel +can usually get a double when enemy dives tower +good build paths +great roaming ganks

-no escapes besides E+Q+run away -no damage after early game -chance in solo q of ADC not following up in lane -squishy if you dont land your W -sunglasses reduce damage by 1 (rito pls change hidden passive >:C ) -no reliable disengage -needs to build "real" items on support income -can only lane as support (i mean jungle but ehhhh) -poor waveclear without sunfire -hard to get away from sticky fighters like MasterYi Udyr Nunu

SerevasSep 25, 20151 votes

I'd say Nautilus as he has more versatility as a support. He can sit and play the passive game, he can be aggressive, he can peel effectively, he can engage, and disengage.

Leona has a much harder time of a lot of that and frankly suffers tremendously from not going aggressive in lane, all she can do is go in to be honest.