why do people pick on bards so hard

yamimosh·Jun 22, 2015·13 votes·2,461 views

ive played league a while, and i love bard, best champ riots made in ages, ridiculously fun, very useful, just a great design overall, now ever since ive started, well id like to say maining him, ive never been blamed so much in my life. every game something goes wrong, its instantly my fault. and i realize i mess up ultis, its hard to get a perfect ulti but for every 1 ulti i mess up i make sure i sent out 8 better ones. i get i miss q's its a pretty difficult skillshot in all seriousness but when it lands... oh boy does it lead to great things.

i guess what i really want to know, why do you hate bard? why is it so easy to blame lost games on him?

24 Comments

I GANK LANESJun 22, 20157 votes

He got a bad rep for super low base stats on release so everyone hates him even though Aphromoos been killin it in the LCS with him

Bard

FelixphaetonJun 22, 20151 votes

You can give him all the base stats you want, it won't fix every Bard on my team throwing their ult on our kills and saving them, or stunning us as we run away.

OverpoweredSoapJun 22, 20152 votes

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You can give him all the base stats you want, it won't fix every Bard on my team throwing their ult on our kills and saving them, or stunning us as we run away.

So you can't stop bad players from being bad. Or at least bad bards from being bad. Like I'm not trying to be an ass, but that's the vibe I'm getting, and you can apply that to basically any champion in the game.

OrbvJun 22, 20151 votes

If they release Anivia today, the forums would blow up about trolling with her Wall.

It's a thing people used to do, until they got bored.

Bard is just like that except his ultimate is a bit harder to hit, although Anivia's wall is far more risky to use.

FelixphaetonJun 22, 20151 votes

I can't stop bad Bards from being bad any more than I can stop bad Yis, Vaynes, Yasuos or whatever from being bad, but a bad Vayne tumbling into 5 isn't going to completely nullify a 4-5 man Vlad ult.

AFK PushJun 22, 20151 votes

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He got a bad rep for super low base stats on release so everyone hates him even though Aphromoos been killin it in the LCS with him

It's a mixture of that, and if you don't use your ult perfectly people assume you to troll. I've grown quite fond of him myself, not playing as him, but I like him on my team and even like playing against him. He's just fun by design.

SEKAIJun 22, 20156 votes

He is fat, old, formal, intelligent, powerful, has good sense of dressing taste and has kids surround him all the time,

It tickles the jelly bomb you see...

QarekeoJun 22, 20154 votes

See, he's fat, old, has a jolly beard and dresses in red. He also gives people presents, but since nobody sees these presents and uses them, they get disappointed in Bard and think he's just a cheap ripoff of the real thing.

Also, Bard needs a Christmas-themed skin desperately.

junglerboy16Jun 22, 20154 votes

people pick on Bard because when you mess up with him it is much easier to tell that you messed up.

"Oh, hey, you accidentally ulted me in the middle of their team instead of just their team. way to go Bard"

Where if someone else messes up, like a Sona missing her ult, it's just "wow, you whiffed your ult" or someone like Leblanc "Wow, you didn't instagib their carry"

Bard has a hard time because his kit is pretty telegraphed to both teams which makes it that much cooler or that much sadder when you either succeed fantastically or fail hard.

PROJECT BearJun 22, 20153 votes

apart the reasons above, Bard has the potential to be noticeably bad (or good) in additional ways other than simple feeding, so people who like to blame others have extra reasons to blame Bard.

plus, he bounces about like he just doesn't care. if somebody is losing and wants to blame it on others, his body language is just irritating.

The EllimiistJun 22, 20152 votes

You lost me at "very useful". Let's look at his kit

1 crappier version of lux Q with potential stun. Probably not peeling with this thing
2 other crappy skills that can't peel, cc or do much of anything well
1 mostly crappy ult that probably won't peel anything either and can fuck your own team hard

About sums it up.

The Bard DogJun 22, 20152 votes

its very easy to peel wiht his q you're stupid. people always group for teamfights so you always have a stun.

his heal is good for speed boosts late and thats about it. and for sustaining up while chiming before another fight.

his e is amazing for ganks, escapes, and fakeouts.

his ult has so many practical uses too. ult frontlines, have your team melt the back. ult turrets to make dives more successful. ult minions surrounding your turrets to force target changes on turrets. ult escaping low health enemies to ensure a kill.

going from your post you're both A. really dumb, and B. never seen a decent bard in your life.

The EllimiistJun 22, 20152 votes

Someone's a bit mad lol. Please though do go on about how his Q can peel an assassin of an adc so well.

IcyPepperJun 22, 20153 votes

You sound more mad if you ignore all the points he made with "Someone's a bit mad lol" then proceed to bring up something new.

Obviously if an assassin dives the carry, Bard still has his ultimate handy and will give time to allow his team to collapse on the assassin (you should have other forms of cc on your team outside the support). During laning, wards should allow you to see if an assassin is coming toward your lane, alongside mia pings (wards are more reliable). You can then make a tunnel to give your adc an escape before they can get dived on, or use the speedboost of your shrines so your adc can retreat. ANd if the assassin goes through the tunnel, you can easily Q them for a stun.

The Bard DogJun 23, 20151 votes

it can peel an assassin off of a carry. it has a slow, along with your meep slows, and you have a speed boost you can give to your adc. if your adc doesn't get away, then it's his fault at that point.

bard is extremely strong, and there's only two reasons as to why a bard does poorly in a game.

he's not very good at bard, and misses ults/q's, doesn't know when to roam, etc.
bard's team has absolutely no sense of when to capitalize on his cc.

BresnJun 22, 20152 votes

Bard is infamous as Riot released him nerfed compared to the OP states of new champs like Ekko and Rek'Sai.

warpenguin555Jun 22, 20151 votes

because blame the support

SociopathFriendJun 22, 20151 votes

Because unlike most champions- misusing your abilities will not just bone you, but your team as well.

Think Anivia- good walls are good and bring success, bad walls are bad and bring rage. Bard does that with two abilities instead of one- and his ult is arguably far more rage-inducing than her wall.

VerxintJun 22, 20151 votes

Please people, please...

Don't judge a bard exclusively on his ultis. It's the easiest thing to see, but it's the hardest one to use. And there is always that retard who flashes/dashes into it after you throw it then blames you.

Judge a bard on his Q accuracy and how well he portals.

ZydronJun 22, 20151 votes

My friends make fun of me for playing Bard, constantly calling him a bad champ and how I never do well with him, even though whenever I play with them they don't know how to play the lane with Bard and just think it's Bards fault for being Bard and having no damage or something

TwoDJun 22, 20151 votes

cuz hes a tard

DarthSpectrumJun 22, 20151 votes

Bard is a well designed champion, but Riot executed his release poorly.

He was the only "new" champion that wasn't a tremendous boon for whatever team he is on. Personally, Bard release week was probably the 2nd worst week of League, just behind the Ryze re-work with the infinite damage manamune then the infinite slows.

People didn't know how to play Bard, and even then, his stats were mediocre. Unlike most champion who were released with borderline OP stats such as Ekko or Rek'sai to make for players' inexperience with them, Bard came with no extra stats and one of the highest learning curves for a support champion.

It felt more like a dead weight than an advantage to have Bard on a team. Magical Journey and Tempered Fate has just a high chance of screwing your team over as does the enemy's. His Q was alright, but the heal costed so much mana that most heals simply out-classed it.

Seeing a new Bard players practice this champion was painful. I vividly remember losing the first game I played on Bard release week because the Bard over-estimated his heal and used his ultimate in a terrible location. The experience still lingers with me whenever I see a Bard. Even though I know he is a cool champion now, he was just so frustrating to deal with for an entire patch for me.

CupkekJun 22, 20151 votes

In my experience, Bard players mean well but they don't have the timing or communication to make him work with pugs.

Words cannot describe how many times an allied Bard has blue-balls'd me of a kill or, better yet, gotten me killed.

While these mistakes and missteps are annoying, I can't be mad at him. He stuns people so easily and helps me jungle during the early game with those blessed healpacks.