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Questions About CSing (Need Help)

Roll in Grass··1 votes·590 views

I can't seem to reach an "acceptable" amount of cs by the times I should have them. I often see Challenger players with 80+ cs at 10 minutes and 200 cs by 22, 300 at 32, etc. I reach 70-75 cs by 10 minutes usually, but in a lot of circumstances I'll only have 60-70 at 10 minutes (usually in midlane). Then my cs just stops happening beyond that, usually having 140-160 at 22 minutes and barely reaching 200 around the 32 minute mark. Whenever I go into customs to train my cs (if you know the answers to these questions you know what I'm talking about), I almost always reach perfect cs if not missing about 1 minion per minute. So my questions (Keep in mind this is for Ranked games):

  1. Is LCS cs generally higher than solo q cs? 1b. If so, why is it higher?
  2. How can I guarantee 80 cs by 10 minutes? (especially in aggressive or countered lanes like playing Ahri against Annie or any champion against LeBlanc)
  3. How can I reach 200 cs at 22/keep my cs on standard?

13 Comments

Arveanor1 votes

I'm probably not even as good at cs'ing as you, so maybe you'll just ignore me on that, but, I would suggest that if you aren't sure when and where to pick up cs, watch xiaoweixiao (sp) over and over. watch all of the TiP vods and even go back and watch lmq vods, and be constantly on the look out for where his farm is coming from.

I could try and give general pointers on getting farm, but, like i said, i may not be the best opinion there, so just watch your boy xiao.

Roll in Grass1 votes

Do you think you could link me some vods that you'd find most helpful?

Arveanor1 votes

Well, I was hoping you would have some good ideas yourself with that LMQ icon :P But give me a minute (and maybe reply again so i get a notification and don't forget) and I will try to look for some.

Roll in Grass1 votes

xD I was a huge LMQ fan back when Vasilli was still in the team. Now only XWX is left and it just doesn't feel like LMQ anymore. So, I have it as both a memory and a trophy as one of the very few who actually have the icon (now that there's no 2015 icon, etc.)

Arveanor1 votes

Yeah, I don't keep up with it a lot, but apparently vasilli is doing pretty crazy stuff back in China. Anyway, just glancing at some of the recent games..

XWX with 491 farm on ahri (everyone had pretty huge farm this game) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB1NXnpQ7RQ

XWX with 408 farm on liss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxOcifaRH-Q

XWX with 347 farm on LB https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylw3N8zgslc

North american lcs vods for 2015 http://na.lolesports.com/vods/league/na-lcs

Just in general, XWX is known as being an exceptional farmer, so you can check out those games I suppose, but really in general he should be a good guy to watch to find creative ways to pick up minions, hope it helps!

hh the thinker1 votes
  1. it is higher 1b. it's higher because they really know how to cs and instead on fighting the whole the, they focus on csing and poking. when they do focus on fighting, their cs tends to drop a bit.
  2. it's really hard sometimes, but you have to be able to cs under tower really well, as well as avoid taking as much damage as you can.
  3. this is what I get when playing tryn top (I cs best with him, but I've cs well with others also), and it's just about getting all the cs that comes to your lane and the jungle. I mostly get this when split pushing. close to the most you can get is 300 in 20 minutes so 200 in 22 minutes is much easier.
Roll in Grass1 votes

As an Ahri main, Bjergsen is senpai. Anyway, do you know any tips on how to get cs that high as an APC such as Ahri?

aciddemons1 votes

Practice. Some people recommend going into custom games just to practice csing. It's just a recommendation so it's all up to you really. But practice csing, I can hit about 50 cs with Ahri at 10 minutes if I pay attention. Still a little new to the game, been playing for under a year but I also play Dota so I have lots of practice from that. My csing it's top notch but I'm getting there.

I have also seen a few people put in an AD runes, maybe 2 or 3, to help them last hit. I honestly don't like the idea so I stay away but find what works for you.

Roll in Grass1 votes

I can hit 70 or so cs at 10 minutes with Ahri, and if I do it in a custom I hit perfect cs (if not miss 1 minion per minute) [Stated Above]. But I need to know how to cs better under pressure. People constantly ganking you, aggressive lane opponents, having to recall, etc. Yet still keep 80 cs at 10, 200 at 22, 300 at 35, etc.

aciddemons1 votes

Like I said before, it just takes practice. There isn't much else you can do. Keep in mind, these guys play League for a living so it's basically their job to know how to do that. Don't stress too much, just try and stay clam. It helps a lot. The more you play the better you'll get. It just takes time. :)

aciddemons1 votes

Watching doesn't do anything really, you just need to practice. You can go into custom games to help practice lasting hitting, I've seen quite a few people recommend it. In all honesty though, the best way to get better is to keep practicing.

“The importance of repetition until automaticity cannot be overstated. Repetition is the key to learning.” ― John Wooden

Roll in Grass1 votes

Whenever I go into customs to train my cs (if you know the answers to these questions you know what I'm talking about), I almost always reach perfect cs if not missing about 1 minion per minute.

aciddemons1 votes

Well, then you know how to last hit. Now you just have to learn to apply it to actual games and that's just going to take some time. It's alright, you'll get there. :)

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