Master Tier for Normals?

Kürama·Jan 23, 2015·2 votes·2,447 views

Many players are Diamond Tier in their Normal games, so I figured, why not give them a higher tier to climb to. Like this guy (no it's not me). We can possibly throw in Challenger Tier as well, just a thought.

24 Comments

727PPJan 23, 20156 votes

It would be nice to have more of your accomplishments shown off in normals. I understand that's definably not where the emphasis is, but we can't even see champion stats for normals.

Not only does it need what you are saying, but also a lot more statistics. Im defiantly not against casual play, but I hate the idea that the only place you can really practice is in ranked.

KüramaJan 23, 20152 votes

I agree with you as well with the statistical and accomplishments part.

I somewhat disagree with your last statement though, you can practice in Normals (not when you're trying out a new champ), but you can still get a little better with Normals.

727PPJan 23, 20151 votes

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I agree with you as well with the statistical and accomplishments part.

I somewhat disagree with your last statement though, you can practice in Normals (not when you're trying out a new champ), but you can still get a little better with Normals.

not nearly as effectivly as ranked though. Thats IMO a major problem.

KüramaJan 23, 20151 votes

I know not as effective as ranked. And, I see how it can be a problem, though a solution to that will be tough.

Being able to see statistics will be a start to solving it though.

SukishooFeb 19, 20151 votes

How can you NOT practice in normal compared to ranked? There is really no difference where practice is concerned. Honestly, it's better to practice in normal then it is to go into ranked for a practice as that's supposed to be much more competitive.

KüramaFeb 20, 20151 votes

Normals are more for polishing your skills or having fun. Practice is more Co-op VS AI & Custom Games. At least, in my opinion.

SukishooFeb 20, 20151 votes

polishing your skills is practice in a sense as you want to learn to get better against real people... since bots can't help with getting better at most things (as they don't think and do stuff like people)

KüramaFeb 20, 20151 votes

True. Though I agree with ant1nam3, it's not nearly as competitive as ranked.

EleshakaiFeb 19, 20151 votes

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It would be nice to have more of your accomplishments shown off in normals. I understand that's definably not where the emphasis is, but we can't even see champion stats for normals.

Not only does it need what you are saying, but also a lot more statistics. Im defiantly not against casual play, but I hate the idea that the only place you can really practice is in ranked.

btw THIS I agree with. The ability to at least see your own champ stats/etc. broken down by game mode would be a good addition.

KüramaFeb 20, 20151 votes

I agree with it as well.

EleshakaiFeb 17, 20152 votes

I'm pretty sure those emblems are just based off of lifetime totals and are not actually 'diamond tier' just a threshold for lifetime kills/minions/etc.

KüramaFeb 17, 20152 votes

They are, but the current max tier is Diamond. Let's say that's 20,000 Takedowns. After 20,000 there is no other tier to advance to, so you can achieve 100,000 Takedowns and still be in Diamond. So why not give players more tiers to advance to, say maybe 50,000 for Master and 100,000 for Challenger.

EleshakaiFeb 18, 20151 votes

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They are, but the current max tier is Diamond. Let's say that's 20,000 Takedowns. After 20,000 there is no other tier to advance to, so you can achieve 100,000 Takedowns and still be in Diamond. So why not give players more tiers to advance to, say maybe 50,000 for Master and 100,000 for Challenger.

But 'master' and 'challenger' are there for competitive reasons. That's why they're so limited as to how many people can get in. You can't do that with normals. Everyone can get in and there's no real restriction, all you have to do is farm kills. It just doesn't make SENSE to have a tier above diamond for a non-competitive game mode.

KüramaFeb 19, 20152 votes

Aren't Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum & Diamond there for competitive reasons as well? What's your point? If we're unable to achieve Master / Challenger in ranked we shouldn't have the ability to advance to those tiers in Normals?

All you have to do to get Diamond in Normals is play games and win (which btw is somewhat competitive, to get your wins to Diamond) so by your logic, we shouldn't have any tiers in Normals.

EleshakaiFeb 19, 20151 votes

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Aren't Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum & Diamond there for competitive reasons as well? What's your point? If we're unable to achieve Master / Challenger in ranked we shouldn't have the ability to advance to those tiers in Normals?

All you have to do to get Diamond in Normals is play games and win (which btw is somewhat competitive, to get your wins to Diamond) so by your logic, we shouldn't have any tiers in Normals.

Fine, remove them. Because it doesn't make sense to hafve a 'master tier' or a 'challenger tier' in a system that isn't ranked. At all.

They're just there to provide a pretty picture for next to the number... but if you'd prefer that not be there... then I'm 100% in favour of removing them.

KüramaFeb 19, 20152 votes

Exactly, it's a pretty picture, so what's the harm?

No, I don't prefer removing them, but by your stupid logic and attitude, you want to. You still haven't given a good reason as to why there shouldn't be Master / Challenger Tiers in Normals other than "It's not competitive, I don't want folks playin Normals gettin to Master / Challenger".

Is it because you're not Master Tier in ranked?

You do know there are players who don't ranked at all right? And because they don't ranked they should never get another pretty picture to show their accomplishments in Normals right?

Try again cause right now you're just being selfish.

EleshakaiFeb 19, 20151 votes

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Exactly, it's a pretty picture, so what's the harm?

No, I don't prefer removing them, but by your stupid logic and attitude, you want to. You still haven't given a good reason as to why there shouldn't be Master / Challenger Tiers in Normals other than "It's not competitive, I don't want folks playin Normals gettin to Master / Challenger".

Is it because you're not Master Tier in ranked?

You do know there are players who don't ranked at all right? And because they don't ranked they should never get another pretty picture to show their accomplishments in Normals right?

Try again cause right now you're just being selfish.

no it's because it makes no sense to be 'master' or 'challenger' at a non-competitive game mode.

Having a metallic icon is another story altogether... but the whole point of the CONCEPT of 'master' or 'challenger' is that you're the best. It simply doesn't make sense to be the best if you're not competitive. It's illogical.

There's no reason for it to happen.

And no, it has no effect on me one way or the other - I don't even play the game anymore. There is no personal stake in this for me, I think that's why I find your argument so petty here. You're asking for them to implement something illogical for selfish reasons, and I find it silly.

KüramaFeb 19, 20152 votes

And again, having any tier in Normals makes no sense either by your logic. Yet they're in the game aren't they?

Maybe you're one of the best in Normals? Maybe for having won so many games / earned so many takedowns and such? It shows that you've accomplished a lot more than others. >.>

You don't play the game, so why are you here trying your best shoot down my suggestion?

You say I'm asking them to implement something illogical, yet the logic of them being implemented has been explained, you just refuse to accept it.

And for selfish reasons...lol. The suggestions is for all players, I feel like they should get something to show off their accomplishments. How is this being selfish?

EleshakaiFeb 19, 20151 votes

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And again, having any tier in Normals makes no sense either by your logic. Yet they're in the game aren't they?

Maybe you're one of the best in Normals? Maybe for having won so many games / earned so many takedowns and such? It shows that you've accomplished a lot more than others. >.>

You don't play the game, so why are you here trying your best shoot down my suggestion?

You say I'm asking them to implement something illogical, yet the logic of them being implemented has been explained, you just refuse to accept it.

And for selfish reasons...lol. The suggestions is for all players, I feel like they should get something to show off their accomplishments. How is this being selfish?

They're essentially trophies - not tiers. I suppose they could add additional levels to it, but it wouldn't make sense to use the master/challenger emblems... they could add Copper, Electrum, Pyrite, Ruby, Emerald, etc. and just make Diamond that much harder to reach if its just more levels of trophy you want...

Have you ever heard of a 'challenger trophy'? No, of course not. But things like gold, platinum, etc. all make sense. BEcause one implies competition, the other is just a measure of accomplishment. There's no argument that you can make that can justify having a 'challenger trophy', much less for a non-competitive mode... it's just illogical.

KüramaFeb 19, 20152 votes

Why would it make sense to add random trophies instead of keeping things consistent with Master / Challenger? And so what if you think it should only be competitive because "muh feels it not competitive".

It's something to show your accomplishments in Normals. You don't have to call it "Master" or "Challenger" if you don't like it because it's Normals, but like I said, there needs to be more advancements for players in Normals.

EleshakaiFeb 19, 20151 votes

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Why would it make sense to add random trophies instead of keeping things consistent with Master / Challenger? And so what if you think it should only be competitive because "muh feels it not competitive".

It's something to show your accomplishments in Normals. You don't have to call it "Master" or "Challenger" if you don't like it because it's Normals, but like I said, there needs to be more advancements for players in Normals.

This request makes absolutely no sense to me, honestly, but as long as you don't start treading into territory of 'oh I'm a challenger at normals' which just sounds ridiculous and takes away the importance of 'challenger' in general(remember, the key facet of it is that you KICK SOMEONE ELSE OUT to get in), I don't see who would be hurt.

I mean to me it seems like normals don't need progression at all... they're just for fun. You've already opted out of competitive... so who would care?

You're the first person I've ever seen actually pay attention to those emblems if I'm being honest...

KüramaFeb 20, 20151 votes

That's the point, it's just so show your progression mainly. Not to brag "I'm a Challenger" lol.

The game in general is for fun - even at ranked. Sure ranked is a lot more comptetitive, but even the competition makes it fun. :D

I haven't opted out of ranked, I'm just not ready for it. I didn't do well in Season 4, so I'm improving how I play before I start ranked again.

And well, I care about the small details as well as the big details lol. :P