Surprisingly good point about how people improve at this game

Spacesuit Spiff·Apr 6, 2015·6 votes·589 views

First off, anyone who's tried to explain anything to soloquers can probably relate to the first part of this video. Yes, I'm salty about the greedy adcs that get healbaited into solo towerdiving at level 2. But the real gem here is that generally, when people miss opportunities in this game it's usually because they don't even know about that aspect of the game at all. For example, if you know about opportunistically grabbing dragons it's pretty simple to do, but some people can go hundreds of game without it crossing their minds. Sure, micro mechanics are the exception to this rule but I think in a lot of the cases when people are "bad" it's just because they don't even know how "less bad" could be executed.

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Dangerous ManApr 6, 20153 votes

This reminds me when somebody is fighting against an OP champ and their teammate will say "Stop feeding" As if they're helping.

StrawberrycocoaApr 6, 20151 votes

This is why the people who do know these things should learn how to communicate that knowledge calmly and sensibly instead of screaming and throwing tantrums because the random person they got matched up with didn't execute an animation-cancel to last-hit a minion in the .25 second window after using their Q ability.

(made-up example is made-up)

AlljoyApr 6, 20154 votes

Personally I don't think it's worth saying anything to anyone in SoloQ where your best bet's to play the hand you're dealt with, pretend it's a bot game you can't change, and move on while working on your plays.

If people want to get better at League, they will over time, and they're most certainly not going to over a tip in that one game they got tilting while losing lane, which most people take wrongly eitherway anyhow.

phirestarterApr 6, 20151 votes

People should offer useful advice, but I understand why they would just keep quiet, it's better than making stupid comments like "this shaco" which serve no useful purpose.

AlljoyApr 6, 20152 votes

I don't believe anyone should do anything, if they want to that's fine and well enough but I don't think people should have to babysit their teams just to nab a win or get by, especially when it's SoloQ and you'll most likely never see them ever again (if you're lucky).

But you're right about the comments, they're unproductive.

phirestarterApr 6, 20152 votes

Well I agree with you philosophically, but I've also asked people who are obviously giving someone else a hard time, to cut it out and instead try to be more constructive with their comments.

If you are going to take the time to rage at someone, then you have the time to say something useful. The response has been something to the effect of:

"Are you fucking kidding me!? If they don't know this shit, they shouldn't be playing ranked!"

Which again, philosophically, I am partially in agreement with, but at that moment, in a game, it is more important, in my opinion to win rather than be right. IMHO.

AlljoyApr 6, 20151 votes

I agree with you on both counts, either be tactful if you have the time to speak (which rarely seems to pay off eitherways for reasons Ravoria mentioned below), or be silent and work on your plays.

Spacesuit SpiffApr 6, 20153 votes

In a perfect world, you would be right. However, most people in this game don't want advice and throw a fit when they get it. It's because giving advice automatically implies they're doing something wrong, so get ready for an immediate "well stfu you're 0/2" if you're behind or just "stfu" if you aren't.

What these people need is informative youtube videos, which I have found extremely helpful.

StrawberrycocoaApr 6, 20152 votes

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In a perfect world, you would be right. However, most people in this game don't want advice and throw a fit when they get it. It's because giving advice automatically implies they're doing something wrong, so get ready for an immediate "well stfu you're 0/2" if you're behind or just "stfu" if you aren't.

What these people need is informative youtube videos, which I have found extremely helpful.

I dunno, I see a lot of "advice" offered in really snotty and condescending ways. It goes both ways. People doing badly get too focused on that to take advice well, and people frustrated by a game going badly don't consider their wording before speaking.