Demotion Report

TragicDeathFade·Jul 4, 2015·19 votes·1,611 views

I'm not sure this a good idea and i'm not really proposing it exactly but i wanted to know how would you feel about being notified when your going to be demoted. i just got demoted and i had a feeling it was coming, Gold 1 has not been kind to me, so when it happened i just sorta thought what if a notification told you it was gonna happen beforehand. Would it have changed my play. I know this is a two-way street because you will always have people who will become toxic as hell for that game because of maybe added stress. But what if that stress helped someone win their next game maybe they would put more effort into their play or change their behavior to suit a more team driven style just wanted to know how the community feels.

13 Comments

soh1gh2Jul 4, 20153 votes

good idea +1

TragicDeathFadeJul 4, 20151 votes

Ty for saying that makes me feel a little better about this post, maybe because people can sorta guess when their going to be demoted after a long string of losses, but knowing for sure is always the best i feel.

WishStroJul 4, 20153 votes

You know what? Yes we need this. Especially since MMR is so dumb and I'll get on a hot streak but only earn 12-17 points a win. As soon as I lose, though, I lose 22-25 points a game. So here I am working my behind off to climb to diamond and then only to be demoted in TWO GAMES. TWO? I won 5 times in a row and got promoted! won my series with flying colors? So yes, riot can implement a system like this if their MMR system is so flawed.

Fried NoobJul 4, 20152 votes

I'm kind of opposed to demotions, because they just cause nothing but stress. Even if it's just a "hey, you lose and you drop rank" message, it's a bad idea. Best case scenario, it makes the person play like a pro gamer. Most likely, they will play as they normally do, but will jump down everyone's throat over the slightest mistake, since if they lose, you get dropped down a rank. Besides, if you've been in a ranking for ~5 games and you are at 0 LP, you are going to get demoted if you lose, no need for the game to "helpfully" remind you of this fact.

Edit: Realized I misspoke (mistyped?), meant that demotion series or warnings or stuff like that I'm opposed to, not demotions as a thing.

TragicDeathFadeJul 4, 20151 votes

Demotions themselves i feel are needed because if not then you would have alot of challengers who are bronze but because they won enough games in a row they got in, and if that was the case you would only gain like 5-10 lp per game and lose 20-40 and thats scary enough

I Steal AccountsJul 4, 20152 votes

I think it should be harder to get demoted that promoted, because between the afks and feeders you get it can be completely not your fault you went on a losing streak. I think you should go into a series once you hit 0LP, and have to win best of 5 without any LP gains or losses. If you win you are awarded 25LP and if you lose, you get docked 25LP. I realize this would not work at the diamond+ level but lets be serious, that's about 10% of the playerbase.

DayarJul 5, 20151 votes

diamond+ is 1% of the player base

Surr20plzJul 4, 20152 votes

I like the idea of a demotion series too. But make it best of 3 and 5 like the way it is for promos. It would work exactly the same way but backwards.

KayVaugnJul 4, 20151 votes

I've thought this was something that should be implemented. I think it does tell you when you are about to be dropped from a tier for example going from Gold V to Silver I, but not from within the same tier like silver I to Silver II. Personally I feel like it could make you play both well and bad. You could play better knowing that you NEED to win this game or else you drop down, at the same time it could make you play worse, trying to force things because in the back of your mind you know you need to win so you are trying to force things like dives or force dragons/barons and end up paying for it or it could still work out, pressure is kind of a weird thing.

TragicDeathFadeJul 4, 20151 votes

i'm someone who feels like it would effect me positively if i did indeed get a message, just because i have a set goal in mind no if and's or butts! do or die time right here

KayVaugnJul 4, 20151 votes

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i'm someone who feels like it would effect me positively if i did indeed get a message, just because i have a set goal in mind no if and's or butts! do or die time right here

The problem is that it creates a "Do or Die" mentality which is pressure and not everyone handles pressure in the same way. Some people step up when the pressure mounts and that's a good thing, but others fail when the pressure is on. I'm not saying it's a bad idea since most people can assume when they are at risk of being demoted as it is and should feel some pressure after consecutive losses at 0 LP, I'm just saying that people may handle it differently when they are told that they will 100% be demoted if they lose another game. Generally people who are pressured in these types of situations try to do too much, they know they need to win and that they can't afford to lose so even if they aren't thinking about it the thought of failure is in the back of their mind and they try to force things that aren't there, they try to make the big plays because they feel pressured to do so, because they need to win.

I'm saying it's something that should be implemented because even the people who do fail under pressure should already feel pressure after losing a game or two at 0LP. Although currently it doesn't inform you if you will be demoted for losing your next game, you know the system and how it works and should already feel the pressure sitting at 0LP. This would add slightly more pressure but not too much in my opinion. The system wouldn't add too much pressure on those who don't handle it well since they should already be feeling some pressure and it only adds a bit more with the 100% you will be demoted.

TragicDeathFadeJul 4, 20151 votes

I understand what your saying completely that's why i wanted to see more omments like this that bring opposition this my idea to the table, for now honestly it seems the idea is split 50/50 for those who support, to those who oppose and the likelihood of this being implemented is only when a very large majority of the community wants it themselves.

magic poleJul 4, 20151 votes

hm idk man. in my experiences, most people tend to focus on the negatives. Like you mentioned, i think it would add more stress and cause more toxicity if their demotion game isn't going well "/