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The Tribunal is flawed and here's why

Gunslinger744·9/18/2015, 11:14:42 PM·1 votes·368 views

Before we start I want to say that I was a horrible flamer once, numerous chat restrictions and a 2 week ban later, I've decided flaming these people isn't worth it and quit doing it. But there's always situations that bring it back out, like this one.

Last game I got focused by an extremely fed Leblanc and I got pretty miffed, especially after the (french) Ziggs player started pointing out EVERYTHING I did wrong after he walked into a trap and I said "that was so obvious even I wouldn't have fallen for it." I mean this guy would go out of his way, he would literally let himself get killed to tell me "Lucian so pro" when I get killed by the 20something kills Leblanc for the god knows how many-th time. Muting the little rat didn't help, because he was very busy telling the enemy team to report me for feeding (coincidentially having nearly the same amount of deaths as I did), so I kept seeing their responses in /all chat.

So I was like 2/13, and I was pissed. And after the game I reported him for harrassment and told him to go die. Sat there for a few minutes pondering if another game to lift my spirits was a good idea before ultimately deciding "no" and exiting the client. I am now awaiting my 2 week ban or worse, because I told some idiot to go remove himself from the evolutionary pool after being harrassed by the same guy all game, he was muted for a good while, but from the rest of the people in-game I could tell he was still doing it.

Now I know this guy is going to go into his next game and do the same thing, and someone else is gonna get mad at him and his childish behaviour. And this is just going to continue, because this guy will not get punished, because he isn't doing the right thing wrong.

To make that statement less stupid, imagine this: In some weird reality, swearing is illegal. If you swear, you automatically get thrown in jail by like a "anti-swear bot" or whatever. This Ziggs is the guy that will drive in front of you at 30 in a 70 zone, he's the guy that puts the tack on your seat. He's the guy that goes out of his way to annoy you to the point of swearing at him. And then you lose, and he wins. Because he's not the one doing the illegal thing, you are. Sure, he caused it. But that's not illegal.

TL;DR: Tribunal needs to look at cause AND effect, instead of just effect.

8 Comments

Deep Terror Nami9/18/2015, 11:20:35 PM1 votes

It seems more like you're letting toxic assholes get to you when you shouldn't. What he did was nowhere close to what you said in return. Work on learning to ignore those people.

Matthias91199/19/2015, 2:54:00 AM1 votes

Tribunal...

"Tribunal" has been down for over a year. You got banned by Riot, FYI.

Now I know this guy is going to go into his next game and do the same thing, and someone else is gonna get mad at him and his childish behaviour. And this is just going to continue, because this guy will not get punished, because he isn't doing the right thing wrong.

If you think someone's acting unacceptably, report them. If enough people report them, they'll get looked at, and might get a chat restriction or ban depending on what Riot and their automated systems think about their behavior.

"Riot doesn't instantly ban everyone I think is annoying" is not really constructive feedback about the system.

TL;DR: Tribunal needs to look at cause AND effect, instead of just effect.

Riot's position on this -- which they have explained many times -- is that two wrongs don't make a right, and you're always responsible for your own behavior, even if someone was (either unintentionally or intentionally) goading you into it. "But he started it!" is a really lame excuse even in grade school.

If someone is being a jerk, and you act like a jerk back at them, now the rest of your team has to deal with two jerks. Riot will just punish you both.

freya od9/19/2015, 4:43:23 AM1 votes

I really believe they don't check the post-game chat, no worries there.

Amraros9/22/2015, 8:45:39 PM1 votes

I just want the tribunal back. I felt it was working when it was up and there seemed to be less trolling going on. Or it was completely a placebo effect from feeling like you had a say in who got punished and who didn't.

Colgate Gator9/22/2015, 8:47:16 PM1 votes

Tribunal isn't even back up yet, I hope it is soon, tho.