Seriously. I sent in a support ticket and everything. I DC every game now ever since the server move to Chicago. It is impossible to play ranked now.
I either DC at loading screen (lost connection to server) or I DC randomly in the game.
EVERY GAME. Why does Riot refuse to make 2 servers for NA?
SEKAI6 votesToo many independent servers in a region is not sustainable financially and gameplay-wise.
KING ATTILA1 votesToo many independent servers in a region is not sustainable financially and gameplay-wise.
EU has more than one server...
TWO servers in NA is not sustainable? That's a lie.
SEKAI4 votesEU has more than one server...
TWO servers in NA is not sustainable? That's a lie.
That's probably because of the language barriers.
On the Americas continent you have BR, LA and NA too.
2 servers for a single country is not a good way to do things.
KING ATTILA1 votesThat's probably because of the language barriers.
On the Americas continent you have BR, LA and NA too.
2 servers for a single country is not a good way to do things.
NA is HUGE. 2 servers is the perfect way to do things. Blizzard did it perfectly with Warcraft...Lordaeron East and West (NA).
Riot has more than enough resources to put 2 servers in the giant NA. One server is not the solution no matter how you try to spin it.
ModAttysu The Poro1 votesNA is HUGE. 2 servers is the perfect way to do things. Blizzard did it perfectly with Warcraft...Lordaeron East and West (NA).
Riot has more than enough resources to put 2 servers in the giant NA. One server is not the solution no matter how you try to spin it.
The thing is, NA as a whole is less than half the population of EU West and East SEPARATELY.
We'd have load times for-fucking-ever.
KING ATTILA2 votesThe thing is, NA as a whole is less than half the population of EU West and East SEPARATELY.
We'd have load times for-fucking-ever.
NA = 1,744,863
EU West = 2,552,194
EU Nordic = 1,287,791
CleverFastCrook2 votesO.k. maybe this is a translation issue, but those numbers have nothing to do with North America being stiffed by Riot. We don't care about eu w, or eu n, or espn's, nor China's, or Australia's, or Madagascar's or Nike's, or Greenland's standards. Just our North American standards are all we care about when speaking on the topic at hand. If you do understand and it is not a language barrier preventing you from understanding this, than piss off mate, and Keep your Sub-standards to yourself.
CleverFastCrook1 votesThanks for that irrelevant info. We dont give anyfucks about wtf you guys are doing in other countries, and how slow the dial up is. We are Americans, we expect the best(so should you) and when we are not being given the best by choice, it is unacceptable. We need two servers, end of god damn story!
SEKAI2 votesNA is HUGE. 2 servers is the perfect way to do things. Blizzard did it perfectly with Warcraft...Lordaeron East and West (NA).
The west server was probably mainly there to collect Australian players instead of purposely diving US playerbase into East and West imo.
Riot has more than enough resources to put 2 servers in the giant NA. One server is not the solution no matter how you try to spin it.
Maybe they have enough resource but as currently stand, servers should cover at least 1 country or above, and not multiple servers operate within the same country unless the game is specifically designed that way like say GW2 if I remember correctly, which LoL is definitely not due to its sole focus on PvP.
This issue can be tricky but look how OCE and Garena do it fine with only 1 server I say it's definitely something people can live with.
LittleBlast2 votesBlizzard also has much higher income due to their pay 2 play games.
Angry Monster1 voteswrong; please go read the why before posting BS
SEKAI1 votes[{quoted}](name=Angry Monster,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=8vn0EfeZ,comment-id=0000000000000001,timestamp=2015-09-20T08:00:09.494+0000)
wrong; please go read the why before posting BS
Which part?
If not language barrier then it's population, whatever the case there is a reason why EU has more servers while NA has 1, since the former covers multiple regions separately while NA only covers a country, for the most part.
KING ATTILA1 votesWhich part?
If not language barrier then it's population, whatever the case there is a reason why EU has more servers while NA has 1, since the former covers multiple regions separately while NA only covers a country, for the most part.
The server in NA doesn't even cover all of NA despite it's centralization. EU West has more players on smaller land scale while NA has more land with less players.
SEKAI2 votesThe server in NA doesn't even cover all of NA despite it's centralization. EU West has more players on smaller land scale while NA has more land with less players.
Well we OCE are doing mostly fine so I don't think NA should have that much problem as a whole.
KING ATTILA1 votesWell we OCE are doing mostly fine so I don't think NA should have that much problem as a whole.
Before server move: No DC problems.
After server move: DC every game = unplayable
SEKAI2 votesBefore server move: No DC problems.
After server move: DC every game = unplayable
You can try go to a nearby friend's home and use his wifi to test play a match/custom and see how it goes (as long as you're not using the same ISP), as it can just be an ISP issue.
KING ATTILA1 votesYou can try go to a nearby friends home and use his wifi to test play a match and see how it goes, it can be just an ISP issue.
I'll try that tomorrow at an internet cafe. But seriously, I would love to play at home....
SEKAI3 votesI'll try that tomorrow at an internet cafe. But seriously, I would love to play at home....
And you can, you just need to figure out why exactly you can't play at all.
If it's strictly an ISP issue, you'd need to switch the company or wait until it sorts its shiet out someday.
I had that happened once when my ISP did something to their tech, I had to wait for 2 weeks and unable to touch league for no reason while everything else worked (the issue magically solved itself 1 day). So I guess it happens sometimes.
Decrit2 votes^ i second this, also in EUW even if we are relatively near to the servers we can get ISp and routing issues that can shut us down, and most of times is more dependant on that than anything else.
I mean, hell, i believe there are spanish with a better ping than mine that i am in Italy which is closer to the Amsterdam servers ( and i get around 85-90 ping. not too much of an issue frankly ).
CleverFastCrook1 votesJesus, i hope that is a joke! "I don't think NA should have that much of a problem"? The flaw of that statement is the acceptability of "much of a problem". There should be no problems for anyone playing your game. That is like Reebok saying, "well as long as most of our Reebok Pumps actually pump, its not that bad."(i got sick references bro) Companies that are o.k. with this sub-standards make me sad. Gaming communities are loyal, don't disrespect that. Riot knows their game is top shelf, yet their service is sub-par, but to them, "its not much of a problem."
ModAttysu The Poro1 votesYou do realize that it could be gasp your ISP? Not every ISP has worked out an agreement with Riot, so some of them have constant issues with the servers and the game in general...
Angry Monster2 votesBR is for Brazil which is south america, the other side of the world(south). It does not even come close to counting as a NA server. LAN was made since the shitty lattin and south americas internet all connects off of Florida. If you looked at a map of their infrastructure you could cry.
The reason for 2 servers in EU is cause of when everyone connects not cause of total population. People would have to wait hours to just log in. This is a programming failure on riots end. The fact they designed something that can only handle X amount of people at one time no matter who much hardware they add is sad yet funny.
NA has a better spread of log in times that is all.
So it is neither population or langue. So please stop guessing at the facts.
If Aussies can have a server, then NA can host 4 by those numbers.
SEKAI1 votes[{quoted}](name=Angry Monster,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=8vn0EfeZ,comment-id=000000000000000100000001,timestamp=2015-09-20T08:11:14.346+0000)
BR is for Brazil which is south america, the other side of the world(south). It does not even come close to counting as a NA server. LAN was made since the shitty lattin and south americas internet all connects off of Florida. If you looked at a map of their infrastructure you could cry.
There is a reason why I said something along the lines of "On the Americas continent".
The reason for 2 servers in EU is cause of when everyone connects not cause of total population. People would have to wait hours to just log in. This is a programming failure on riots end. The fact they designed something that can only handle X amount of people at one time no matter who much hardware they add is sad yet funny.
So it is neither population or langue. So please stop guessing at the facts.
How many people a server can handle at a time is restricted by both hardware and coding aspect of the thing, while hardware is more prominent between the 2 as it deals with actual calculation rate and storage. Codes mean a lot yes, but not as much as the actual machines running as the servers. And hardwares are limited to techs available to the budget or of the time.
I am pretty sure distances, infrastructures/routing, languages and population were all included in the reasoning behind setting/splitting up a particular server, just one is more prioritised than the other. You may be right about my point being not entirely correct but it's not wrong either.
If Aussies can have a server, then NA can host 4 by those numbers.
OCE got a server because of the pings, and not due to population. And we only have 1 across the size of Aus+NZ and other islands/countries around it.
Angry Monster1 votesOCE got a server because of the pings, and not due to population. And we only have 1 across the size of Aus+NZ and other islands/countries around it.
SEKAI1 votes[{quoted}](name=Angry Monster,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=8vn0EfeZ,comment-id=00000000000000010000000100000000,timestamp=2015-09-20T08:53:57.480+0000)
- wow just like who the OP is taking about. he wants one for ping also. funny how your argument sucks when you look at it
Yeah but a lot of people here are still dealing with 100-150 ping due to how the server is located on the Eastern coastline, we simply accept it better than 200-300s (some even played with 400-500 back in the day).
Point is, I don't think the server being in Chicago is that bad.
Angry Monster1 votesYeah but a lot of people here are still dealing with 100-150
That does not invalidate the point. Only show A riot is failing or b your countries infrastructure blows and you need to harass your government.
Point is, I don't think the server being in Chicago is that bad.
note the distance that west coast players are cross via the america infrastructure is greater than the distance than across EU (minus Russia)
I find the excuse that we deal with worse so it is ok for others that are not as bad. I amazed at your shit level of standards.
I personally think everyone not in NA should stay out of the conversation. This does not effect you one way or another(as a AUS player).
SEKAI1 votes[{quoted}](name=Angry Monster,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=8vn0EfeZ,comment-id=0000000000000001000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2015-09-20T10:19:05.127+0000)
I find the excuse that we deal with worse so it is ok for others that are not as bad. I amazed at your shit level of standards.
I am amazed at how you sound as if getting like a 30-50 ms increase for west coast is something disgusting to have. I don't understand.
I just go back to my earlier statement. A server can cover multiple countries but when there are multiple servers to cover 1 country it's gonna complicate things unnecessarily such as ladders, queue time, extra expenses and what not.
CleverFastCrook1 votesi love everything i just read. Could not be said any better
CleverFastCrook1 votesNo, the point is your missing the point bro. They can fix it if they chose to. Stop making excuses for them.
CleverFastCrook1 votesHahahahahahahah! Well said.
idoki1 votesActually it's because EU player population is HUGE. That's why the original EU server was split into EUW and EUNE in the first place. Also it might also be because EU is made up from a lot of different countries and each has its own ISPs, laws, etc. , whereas in the US the law is more "nationally shared" and only few ISPs exist.
CleverFastCrook1 votesso making your customers/lifeblood suffer adn play some lagfest piece of shit game is better? That sounds like an even worse way to do things. If that is the best answer for a reason as to why Riot can't provide 2 servers in NA, than please stfu. Or offer more than, "that's just not good way to do things." That made this topic ten times more aggravating than it already was. I am curious as to the cost of moving the server to the midwest from the west coast?
Woodsy25751 votesYeah and look what their upkeep looks like...
KING ATTILA1 votesI would like a knowledgeable Red to comment.
TomasuKush1 votes[{quoted}](name=KING ATTILA,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=8vn0EfeZ,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-09-20T07:34:00.848+0000)
Seriously. I sent in a support ticket and everything. I DC every game now ever since the server move to Chicago. It is impossible to play ranked now.
I either DC at loading screen (lost connection to server) or I DC randomly in the game.
EVERY GAME. Why does Riot refuse to make 2 servers for NA?
They're Cheap?
Umio1 votes[{quoted}](name=KING ATTILA,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=8vn0EfeZ,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-09-20T07:34:00.848+0000)
Seriously. I sent in a support ticket and everything. I DC every game now ever since the server move to Chicago. It is impossible to play ranked now.
I either DC at loading screen (lost connection to server) or I DC randomly in the game.
EVERY GAME. Why does Riot refuse to make 2 servers for NA?
Use Ethernet, not wifi. I never get disconnected and I play on the east coast of canada.