I think people don't like promos because they're luck

Solo Q existed even if it was Duo

Do you know what SOLO means?

Premades allow for 3 or more which seriously is completely different.

You can still solo like before. It was never completely solo

Riot themselves said Duo Q is nowhere near the same as 3+ premade and most people with a brain agree.

Never said it was.

They legit said Duo Q still counts within the boundaries of Solo Q\

Prove it

Immaterial and unimportant. Thats like saying "there are constant lane pushes". That has nothing to do with it. That doesn't change the fundamental conditions necessary to win games.

Constant teamfights = rely more on teammates, cooperation etc. = less impact you have.

If it is applicable to you, it is applicable to your opponents. In a large enough system such as league these differences average out. And this DID exist before. Every game is a gamble and nothing is constant.

I even mentioned it did exist before...so you probably didn't read carefully. It was a gamble before, but now the stakes have been raised. How good is your premade? How good is the opponents? Will you have one of thosegames where you have a duo queue while their team is a 5 man party?

WIll you get the smurf boosting the bronze, who flops at everyteamfight costing objectives?

You cannot consistently change yourself in the situations that you are given.

"Just improve" Jeez what a generic answer. And you're telling me that anything that suggests otherwise is purely an "excuse". Ok.

We had an AFK that game, so yeah 4v5. Excuse.

Jeez that guy autolocked and went AP Darius Mid and ran down mid lane. Excuse.

You can improve and you should, but it's significantly harder to carry games now, as RIot has pushed the game so it's a lot more important to be a cohesive organized team. Also because of that, your teammates and their performaces are a lot more valuable and crucial to winning the game. You can be a team player, but will your teammates do the same?

LOL

You are calling me a "sheep" and accusing me of "not thinking", when winning or losing is a simple question of who plays better.

Why? Because like I alluded to before, people of different skill levels will climb to different levels of the ladder.

Why? Because some are better than others. You are making some craptastic argument about teamfights and dynamic queues that makes no sense and holds no water.

Look if you and Wildturtle or some shit started on a fresh level 30 account, he would climb, and you would reach the same place you did before.

Not because he randomly gets better teammates. Not because there are teamfights in his games (lol!)

It is a question of your skill level. End of story.

Even going from bronze to silver, I noticed a difference in play.

Why? Because the people are better. It's not a conspiracy theory about dynamic queue or premades or whatever else.

You're calling me a "sheep" and saying I dont "think for myself" because I dont follow your craptastic 2 cent logic.

Better players will climb. This is true today, and it was true in season 1. You're making a whole mumbo jumbo ass nonsense non-point for why it isn't true, and I frankly think it's funny that you're calling me a sheeple when the win coniditions are the same now as they have ever been.

Yeah, and even the pro players making smurfs to climb up new ranks have mentioned how Dyna Queue has made it a crap ton harder to climb. Winning or losing is which TEAM is better than the other. Not one person.

Yes my arguments make sense. You just refute them, and never respond to them. Your teammates have had their value and importance increased this season and your impact as a solo player overall has decreased. Team game, not a solo game. Your mentality is the "selfish player" type.

Mechanical skill will definatly improve, for both you and your opponents. But it's the team that counts, not the pure mechanical skill. All the mechanical skill in the world won't save you from your opponent sieging mid while the troll premade does Rift Herald.

You disagree, you don't address any of the points I make. Instead you just go into denial and call it crap.

Aight. Your ideas are pointless gibberish that makes ZERO sense. Please do revise your statements into something cohesive and logical. /s.

People will climb, but it's a lot grindier, it's a lot harder, your team mates are a lot more important, and, the higher up you go, the less and less impact you will have, and the more you will have to count on having a good team. You can have premades stomping pros because they're premade Oh, and imagine if a 5 man proteam(you pick) all created new accounts, got them to lv 30, and started playing together on Dynamic Queue. And you happened to be on the opposing side. You never had a chance to begin with, basically.

And if it was just solo queue you wouldn't have so many people boosted up to higher rankings. Yes it happened before, but that was with a 2 man group. Now you have full 5 man teams of 4 smurfs and 1 player who's...not that good, and he'll climb. Not just 5 man groups, but also 3 mans 4 mans, etc. There are many people who only do ranked with premades, abusing the Dyna Queue system. That constant, for them has changed from "YOU YOU YOU" to "THEY THEY THEY(WE?)"

And yeah, if you want more reasons why, I believed HoTS and SMITE had Dynamic Queue ranking isolated for reasons which you can look up. Basically why Dyna Queue would invalidate the ranking system.