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I am getting punished after reforming?

AlphaKappaPika··6 votes·1,714 views

"Three, players that have received escalated bans (so 7-day or 14-day bans) for excessive toxicity at any point during the 2015 Season will not receive Ranked Rewards. Players that have received these types of bans have shown some of the most egregious behaviors in the game, and we have a zero tolerance policy against things like racism, sexism, homophobia and other kinds of hate speech. These players WILL be eligible for Ranked Rewards in future seasons if they reform and are not flagged for excessive behaviors in future seasons."

I got a 2 week suspension 3 months ago, your telling me that I will not be getting a border or victorious skin!?!?!? WHAT THE HELL!?!? AM I NOT REFORMED ENOUGH!?!?!? I HAVENT GOTTEN EVEN A CHAT RESTRICTION SINCE THE BAN, AND NOW YOUR TELLING ME THAT IN MY REFORMED STATE I WILL BE PUNISHED?!?!?! WHAT THE F*CK? Not only that, but I was not banned by a rioter, I was banned by a robot, A F%$!KING Robot. A robot took away my ranked rewards and not only that but gave me a 2 week suspension that i thought would be my only punishment. I thought riots goal was to reform players, not take away everything they worked so hard for? I worked my ass off getting to gold, for nothing. I have never been more mad at the game then I am now.

I was not racist, sexist, I am CERTAINLY not homophobic, and I have never said ANY kind of hate speech in game. Yet you drag a player that had a bad week (mostly real life problems) and pulled him into a pool of this shit. Fuck you riot, and FUCK you lyte, you hypocritical motherfucker.

"One, we always want to encourage reform, and celebrate players that successfully reform by the end of the season." HAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHA

41 Comments

TraakSC4 votes

Has RL problems and pent-up anger, takes it out on kids on an online game. Pathetic.

Judging from your post alone, I gather you are an emotional wreck. Seek help man.

AlphaKappaPika2 votes

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Has RL problems and pent-up anger, takes it out on kids on an online game. Pathetic.

Judging from your post alone, I gather you are an emotional wreck. Seek help man.

Im fine by the way lmao, Had a bad week and lose 8 months of work after the original punishment, this would be fine if I had actually known that I would not be getting ranked rewards after the fact, instead riot decided this mid season after my punishment was inflicted, and after the toxic behavior had happened, this is basically like a guy gets out of jail, but then a new law is passed that says that any people who commited his crime get the death penalty, this person would not of commited the crime if the punishment was death, but after he gets out of jail he gets put in the electric chair and gets electricuted.

TraakSC2 votes

No, it is not like that at all. It would be more like someone getting out of jail and not being able to get free ice cream that is only offered to people who have never been incarcerated. Again you people are confusing punishment with rewards. They are not the same.

AlphaKappaPika3 votes

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No, it is not like that at all. It would be more like someone getting out of jail and not being able to get free ice cream offered only to people who have never been locked up. Again you people are confusing punishment with rewards. They are not the same.

this is 5x a bigger punishment than four 2 week suspensions in a row, this is 8 fucking months of work, thats 2 months, imo its about 200% worse than any 2 week suspension i get.

TraakSC2 votes

Again noone is punishing you. You are just not getting a reward you didn't earn. I always thought people played rank for competition, to get better, to be the best. Never heard of someone putting countless hours of work into a game just to get a skin. You are better off working at McDonald’s and spending your extra cash on lolskinshop dot com.

AlphaKappaPika2 votes

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Again noone is punishing you. You are just not getting a reward you didn't earn. I always thought people played rank for competition, to get better, to be the best. Never heard of someone putting countless hours of work into a game just to get a skin. You are better off working at McDonald’s and spending your extra cash on lolskinshop dot com.

no, i did it for the border and the skin, at least the push from silver 4 to gold, that was 100% because of those, And i dont plan on being the "best" There is a reason I havent played very much ranked since i got to gold. And, yes, this is a punishment, the rewards are for reaching a certain league, they arent the "being a completely non-toxic player awards. Yet I got those rewards taken away, for an almost compeltely different reason.

HexaDecimel1 votes

Those rewards are given out based on too things, Gold Rank, and Good Behavior throughout the entire season. If your account does not fulfill those two requirements by year end then you never earned the reward.

HexaDecimel1 votes

I think you are mistaking 8 months of playing games with 8 months of work.

HexaDecimel2 votes

It is not a new law, the same thing happened last year. And your final analogy was in no way tasteful or accurate.

ICRockets2 votes

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Has RL problems and pent-up anger, takes it out on kids on an online game. Pathetic.

Judging from your post alone, I gather you are an emotional wreck. Seek help man.

Serious question: what if he/she is an emotional wreck? What if he/she has ADHD, a mental disorder that can cause even the most logical thought process to travel through the emotional centers of the brain? Is it really fair for somebody who is hypothetically a very decent person IRL to be punished TWICE for an uncontrollable outburst that was ostensibly also a potential learning/growing experience for that person? Is it fair for somebody with emotional issues who is an otherwise good person to be lumped in with racists, sexists, and homophobes?

Also, if you're going to call the guy who takes his anger out on kids on an online game "pathetic" why isn't it equally pathetic for those kids to get upset by it? If their offense can be genuine, why can't his anger?

TraakSC2 votes

If you are mentally capable of agreeing to the EULA and playing an online game then you have the mental capacity to not act like a asshole. Unless the OP is 9 years old, he needs to own up to his actions. Mental illness does not excuse behavior. There are plenty of people with mental issues who don't go postal because they lose an LoL match. If this is the case, OP needs to seek help immediately before someone gets hurt.

ICRockets2 votes

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If you are mentally capable of agreeing to the EULA and playing an online game then you have the mental capacity to not act like a asshole. Unless the OP is 9 years old, he needs to own up to his actions. Mental illness does not excuse behavior. There are plenty of people with mental issues who don't go postal because they lose an LoL match. If this is the case, OP needs to seek help immediately before someone gets hurt.

But we're not talking about going postal. We're talking about saying some shit over the internet. Come on, man. You have to know that's a dumbass argument.

AlphaKappaPika2 votes

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If you are mentally capable of agreeing to the EULA and playing an online game then you have the mental capacity to not act like a asshole. Unless the OP is 9 years old, he needs to own up to his actions. Mental illness does not excuse behavior. There are plenty of people with mental issues who don't go postal because they lose an LoL match. If this is the case, OP needs to seek help immediately before someone gets hurt.

I have owned up to my actions, This isnt because I lost a lol match, and im 100% not going "postal" Im mad because I was not informed I would not be getting ranked rewards upon my 2 week suspension, This was after the fact and a way worse punishment than the original 2 week suspension.

Gaston du Coteau2 votes

Considering you, some Bronzie, is out trolling every single one of these threads all day, I'd say you're the pathetic one. It wasn't amusing the first 20 times, stop embarrassing yourself.

TraakSC2 votes

I had no idea that countering peoples opinions with logic was trolling. I am embarrassed for everyones lack of common sense.

Gaston du Coteau2 votes

It's pretty obvious you're salty as fuck since you can never get out of Bronze and think the people you argue with down there are somehow contributing. People getting punished for calling you bad doesn't make you better. Remember that.

TraakSC2 votes

Regardless of what anyone says or does in my games, I do not report them. I am used to dealing with drug addicted man children on the internet. It doesn't make them any less wrong though and if other people report them then so be it. I find it hilarious that people can't accept that their actions may have consequences. People feeling entitled to things they haven't earned doesn't make them better. Remember that.

OperationDEEZ13 votes

Pointless downvoting. yay boards

lightdragoon883 votes

And...your reaction is why you get nothing.

Mutha Truckr2 votes

People dont commit crimes based on the punishment because they always just assume they will get away with it.

TeemoJenkins2 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/miscellaneous/ZzToUbBe-lets-be-honest

AlphaKappaPika1 votes

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http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/miscellaneous/ZzToUbBe-lets-be-honest

yeah, i was verbally abusive, i deserved the 2 week suspension, i came back a more positive player, although i didnt thank riot for the opportunity, i did see it as more of an opportunity than a punishment. The issue arises when a reformed player is approached with a rule that wasnt there when he initially got his punishment, in this case thats the loss of ranked rewards. You act like I somehow am denying that I was toxic, which is not the case.

HexaDecimel1 votes

The rule was clearly there last year http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4892428

TeemoJenkins1 votes

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yeah, i was verbally abusive, i deserved the 2 week suspension, i came back a more positive player, although i didnt thank riot for the opportunity, i did see it as more of an opportunity than a punishment. The issue arises when a reformed player is approached with a rule that wasnt there when he initially got his punishment, in this case thats the loss of ranked rewards. You act like I somehow am denying that I was toxic, which is not the case.

Last time I checked since S3 any bans cause loss of ranked rewards... so this was nothing new, toxic players lose perks. Reforming makes it so you get to continue to play instead of being permanently banned - be grateful, not salty.

Onegarion2 votes

This rule was in place last season too. No player how has toxic in the ladder half of the season was eligible. This isn't something new at all.

AlphaKappaPika1 votes

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This rule was in place last season too. No player how has toxic in the ladder half of the season was eligible. This isn't something new at all.

I wasnt suspended in the ladder half of the season. Plus I know multiple people that got 2 week suspensions in season 2 and later got end of season rewards, I dont know about the time of these suspensions, So maybe they all got suspended in the earlier half of the season, idk.

HexaDecimel1 votes

This is Season 5 dude, things have changed in the last 3 years....

Zombiemaster1 votes

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I wasnt suspended in the ladder half of the season. Plus I know multiple people that got 2 week suspensions in season 2 and later got end of season rewards, I dont know about the time of these suspensions, So maybe they all got suspended in the earlier half of the season, idk.

This "ruling" (or whatever you want to call it) wasn't in effect back in Season 2. Riot only started this in Season 4.

Onegarion1 votes

It started last year and its not for half the season, but the second half of the season. They gave people who got punished during the Spring split passes, but anyone punished during the summer split wasn't eligible for rewards.

Phife2 votes

Im pretty sure you just further proved riots point...

Lugg2 votes

Sorry, but your post proves beyond a doubt you haven't reformed in the slightest.

HexaDecimel1 votes

The rules have been this way for a while dude, riot is not being hypocritical or screwing you. And given the nature of this post it doesn't look like much "REFORM" has happened. The whole idea behind reform is that you refrain from doing things, not just to avoid further punishment or to get a reward, but change simply because it is the right thing to do. A reformed player would understand what they did was wrong, apologize to the community, understand that they are not eligible to receive rewards this year, and strive to improve for next year.

AlphaKappaPika1 votes

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The rules have been this way for a while dude, riot is not being hypocritical or screwing you. And given the nature of this post it doesn't look like much "REFORM" has happened. The whole idea behind reform is that you refrain from doing things, not just to avoid further punishment or to get a reward, but change simply because it is the right thing to do. A reformed player would understand what they did was wrong, apologize to the community, understand that they are not eligible to receive rewards this year, and strive to improve for next year.

going from a 2 week suspension to no punishments in the past 3 months is what i would consider "reform" and yes riot is being hypocritical because, and ill quote this again, "One, we always want to encourage reform, and celebrate players that successfully reform by the end of the season." in what way does this encourage reform? as far as i can tell it encourages toxicity. and this is the first im hearing of this rule. It definately wasnt a rule last season.

HexaDecimel1 votes

You are misunderstanding the sentence. What it is saying is that by the end of the season they want to celebrate good behavior and reform. What this all boils down too is that players that exhibited good behavior and did not receive any ban or suspension will be rewarded, including players that received punishments in a previous year but reformed and had a clean record this year. This is meant to encourage players to exhibit good behavior throughout the entire season, and not just part of it. And if you look up old posts there were plenty of people who did not receive rewards last year due to bans or suspensions. Riot is not being hypocritical in this instance.

AlphaKappaPika1 votes

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You are misunderstanding the sentence. What it is saying is that by the end of the season they want to celebrate good behavior and reform. What this all boils down too is that players that exhibited good behavior and did not receive any ban or suspension will be rewarded, including players that received punishments in a previous year but reformed and had a clean record this year. This is meant to encourage players to exhibit good behavior throughout the entire season, and not just part of it. And if you look up old posts there were plenty of people who did not receive rewards last year due to bans or suspensions. Riot is not being hypocritical in this instance.

Let me tell you what I take from this "One, we always want to encourage reform, and celebrate players that successfully reform by the end of the season." That to me, seems that it wants players that were toxic in the season but later reformed to be celebrated. Where does this sentence imply that it only wanted players from last season that reformed to get rewards.

HexaDecimel1 votes

You could make the argument that it is awkwardly worded, but it is still obvious that my interpretation was the correct one as it is at this moment being proved. The fact that you misunderstood them does not make them hypocritical, especially when this rule has already been in place for some time now.

ICRockets1 votes

Granted, I don't know what this guy said. If someone built full AP Caitlyn and he raged for 20-30 minutes in game telling that person to kill herself, then yeah. That's fucked up.

But if the worst he did was call her, say, a "fucking idiot" or a "troll" and asking everybody to report her, then it's frankly absurd to remove that person's eligibility for end of season rewards.

AlphaKappaPika2 votes

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Granted, I don't know what this guy said. If someone built full AP Caitlyn and he raged for 20-30 minutes in game telling that person to kill herself, then yeah. That's fucked up.

But if the worst he did was call her, say, a "fucking idiot" or a "troll" and asking everybody to report her, then it's frankly absurd to remove that person's eligibility for end of season rewards.

I can assure you I didnt tell anybody to "kill themselves, generally whenever Somebody goes an off build, i joke around and have fun about it, the onyl times where i guess I get salty anymore is when somebody is straight up trolling (intentionally losing game) but even then i dont tell anybody to kill themselves.

Wentiko1 votes

Can I ask to get a link to the post in question? as in, where is it said you wont get rewards?

Rueian1 votes

If this lack of transparency continues... riot will be the bullet in my head. Its hard enough to control my emotions, the only thing i had to look forward to when i play was to try to get gold.

No even if i did get it... i get nothing... riot you might as well just tell the punished players they are getting executed because you are judging them harshly enough.

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