this is what that looks like http://s28.postimg.org/xumnb6wkd/rtc.png
when i said push they decided to roam around the map picking flowers when i said defend they decided to spread out and roam the map looking for the other team when i said baron when half the other team was dead they all decided to go chase the support
usul12025 votesThe downvotes are because just as your team refused to work with you, you refused to work with your team. you could have grouped and pushed objectives with your team, and they probably would have come with you. Then you would have people to work with in a team fight. And not only that, but you came off as a jerk here, and probably in game too, which would be why they didn't do as you said. Team game, not just 'I'm fed, do as i say'.
Project Riven3 votesThe downvotes are because just as your team refused to work with you, you refused to work with your team. you could have grouped and pushed objectives with your team, and they probably would have come with you. Then you would have people to work with in a team fight. And not only that, but you came off as a jerk here, and probably in game too, which would be why they didn't do as you said. Team game, not just 'I'm fed, do as i say'.
Can't work with a team that doesn't do the right thing at the right time.
usul12023 votesNo, but a lot of threads with high elo people have stated, that it's better to meander as a group than to go for objectives alone. meandering you can slowly guide the group since they'll follow if you're going somewhere that gets them kills or gold, and along you have no benefit, as you will get picked off sooner or later. Being grouped provides a greater advantage, and they will eventually come for you, or go for an objective that your team will defend.
Project Riven2 votesNo, but a lot of threads with high elo people have stated, that it's better to meander as a group than to go for objectives alone. meandering you can slowly guide the group since they'll follow if you're going somewhere that gets them kills or gold, and along you have no benefit, as you will get picked off sooner or later. Being grouped provides a greater advantage, and they will eventually come for you, or go for an objective that your team will defend.
I see what you're saying. But there are times when you're in a match with players that just does their own thing. You ping dragon until you can't ping anymore, nobody comes. You continue to tell team to upgrade trinkets, nobody does. Your adc continue to go front line, even after you spam fall back ping in multiple occasions. And then the worse, when you're in a team fight, a player or two stands at the back (always the support, idk why), seemingly trying to maintain his/her kda.
What you're saying exists in a perfect game, which I love playing especially when both teams are alike, but that's not always the case.
usul12021 votesNo, what I'm saying is expressly for a non-perfect game. Following up on a bad engage is almost always better than pulling back and conveyor belting in. Your adc is front lining? make him a new damn front line. Nobodies going for dragon? They're somewhere else........... GO there and take an objective. Trinkets are cause people are cheap bastards. that happens. Someone doesn't frontline? pull the fight back a bit, make the fight come to them.
You're acting like your judgment calls are always right. Consider that they may not be, and play the team game, and you'll have more success me thinks.
Project Riven1 votesNo, what I'm saying is expressly for a non-perfect game. Following up on a bad engage is almost always better than pulling back and conveyor belting in. Your adc is front lining? make him a new damn front line. Nobodies going for dragon? They're somewhere else........... GO there and take an objective. Trinkets are cause people are cheap bastards. that happens. Someone doesn't frontline? pull the fight back a bit, make the fight come to them.
You're acting like your judgment calls are always right. Consider that they may not be, and play the team game, and you'll have more success me thinks.
You're speaking as if they'll listen to you. This is what the whole thread is about, team not listening to your calls and just doing their own thing. If you put your ADC front line, he better be damn well good at baiting. Nobody going for dragon, pushing pointlessly in a lane... I'm talking about a lane that is evenly pushed and they're prioritizing that over dragon on a 10 15 sec timer.
If LoL have voice chat like dota, I'm pretty sure you can execute a team fight better than you can explain it here... unfortunately that's not the case.
I know what you're saying though... turn the negative into positive. But when all odds are against you, this ain't happening.
usul12021 votesMy comment has exactly 0 things about talking to the enemy. ZERO. I have never said to talk to them. I'm saying what you can do in this situation. With an imperfect team.
Project Riven1 votesMy comment has exactly 0 things about talking to the enemy. ZERO. I have never said to talk to them. I'm saying what you can do in this situation. With an imperfect team.
You mean allies, not enemies.
"pull the fight back a bit, make the fight come to them." - Sort needs to communicate with team don't you think?
usul12021 votesYes i meant allies, and no, it doesn't. If they're too far back, then you can reposition mid-fight to be closer to them. enemies will follow or be forced to disengage.
Project Riven1 votesYes i meant allies, and no, it doesn't. If they're too far back, then you can reposition mid-fight to be closer to them. enemies will follow or be forced to disengage.
When no one is front line, then enemy team will push to your turret. Then, for some unknown reason, your jungler will go jungle and one of your other team member will tp back to buy, knowingly they're pushing to your turret. When you are matched with teammates that just do their own thing, it will happen.
usul12021 votesIf you're mid-fight, then i doubt that the fight will magically stop when you reposition. if they disengaged, then people are probably making sure that they're better equipped for the next team fight. winning that is far more important than a turret. Their priorities might be wrong, and you can tell them as such, but people generally have a reason for what they do. Ignoring that reason and trying to make everyone play to your way of mind is a sure way to lose games.
RoG Vahn1 votesur not understanding the situation AT ALL. i tried this. many times. after they wouldnt listen and after i tried to help them i had to give up. they had no idea what they were doing and i was trying to help them. i knew what i was doing so they should have been listening to me, not listening to the ww who didnt know shit. every time they would follow his commands they would die and id be left by myself. u do not understand the situation so dont be talking down to everyone like u know the situation. there was no helping them. they didnt know how to play and they werent going to listen to anything i said so what else was there to do?
PS downvotes r not meant to be used just because u disagree with someone.
usul12021 votesMaybe they died because the fed person on their team couldn't listen to a single other person and work as a team. You won the laning phase, but clearly were unable to play the team phase that followed. I've been in the situation, as has almost everyone seeing as the elo you're given when you start playing isn't exactly top notch.
You cannot change your team mates, so why not play with them in a team game to have a better chance of success?
PS: that is exactly what downvotes are for. to show that what is stated is against what the rest of the boards think.
RoG Vahn1 votesThe downvotes are because just as your team refused to work with you, you refused to work with your team. you could have grouped and pushed objectives with your team, and they probably would have come with you. Then you would have people to work with in a team fight. And not only that, but you came off as a jerk here, and probably in game too, which would be why they didn't do as you said. Team game, not just 'I'm fed, do as i say'.
i tried. trust me.
usul12021 votesFrom your post, you clearly didn't. you tried to get them to work with you, but failed to work with them.
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RoG Vahn1 votesreported. get off the forums now im sick of your trolling.
l Main Renekton3 votesThere's no possibility that you are older than 12 years old.
Undefeated2 votesI don't understand why people are down voting, explain?
EL HAMSTERO2 voteslook at how great I am! and my team still refused to obey my commands. why would anyone downvote me?
RoG Vahn1 voteslol @ the down vote. obvious troll is obvious. :)
RoG Vahn1 votesfor those who dont know how this game works let me explain
and the problem wasnt just not listening they werent even talking or communicating. im about 99% sure they were a 4 queue that refused to listen to an outsider.
