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When you catch Riot in a lie xD

RoG Vahn··5 votes·2,758 views

ROG SERAPH Sunday at 10:06 This is a follow-up to your previous request #12345678 "Request to unban my account"

"Hey again,

We never look at whether a player is a streamer or not. As League of Legends is a free to play game, the amount a player has spent or makes by playing League of Legends will never have any bearing on a situation. We do not give preferential treatment based on what a player does outside of the game, as that would be unfair(and honestly unrelated).

Pro Players are held to the same standard, if not higher than other players, and if they break these rules they will receive harsher punishments such as fines. All accounts and players are held to the same Summoner’s Code and the Terms of Use.

As you have no further concerns and I have explained all I can about this issue, I will be closing this ticket out. You may write in more tickets about this issue, and different agents may reply, but they will not lift your account's suspension either for the same reasons I have described.

The 0rphan Riot Games Player Support Morgana Support"

Then tell me why a pro player can have their account unbanned but a casual player cant. If you are brave enough answer me that. Because I know everything that happened with Tyler1, Imaqtpie, and The Rain Man. You can't hide the fact that you are giving them preferential treatment because of who they are.

Like I said if you are brave enough tell me why the pro players get special treatment.

JENNY711 Sunday at 21:52 Hey there,

Those players never get their accounts unbanned. They are free to make new accounts just as you are free to make a new account.

Let me know if you have any other questions.

Jenny711 Player Support Specialist "Let my blade speak the law"

ROG SERAPH Yesterday at 12:21 Now you are lying? There is video evidence and multiple sources proving that Imaqtpie and The Rain Man had their accounts unbanned. The Rain Man had not one, not two, but three accounts unbanned on 2 different occasions. Read the link I pasted at the bottom. I have proof, you have your lies.

http://lol.gamepedia.com/The_Rain_Man#Permaban (there are also videos on YouTube of him being unbanned)

JENNY711 Yesterday at 14:23 Hey there,

I'm not able to go into any details regarding another player's account due to privacy reasons. I will say you might want to check your sources. Don't believe everything you read on the internet.

If you have any other questions regarding your account, let me know otherwise I will be closing this ticket.

Jenny711 Player Support Specialist "Let my blade speak the law"

47 Comments

hshtagniemehrcdu8 votes

The only liar here is you. You were already informed multiple times why your statement s wrong and you insist on reposting your bullshit.

Again,learn the difference between account bans, bans from the competitive scene etc....

RoG Vahn4 votes

I know the difference in competitive ban and account ban. TRM had his accounts perm banned and unbanned twice from playing LoL in general.

hshtagniemehrcdu5 votes

[{quoted}](name=RoG Vahn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=aEQm7loE,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-05-13T19:04:29.419+0000)

I know the difference in competitive ban and account ban. TRM had his accounts perm banned and unbanned twice from playing LoL in general.

This was already explained in one of your previous spam threads....

Aeszarck3 votes

[{quoted}](name=RoG Vahn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=aEQm7loE,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-05-13T19:04:29.419+0000)

I know the difference in competitive ban and account ban. TRM had his accounts perm banned and unbanned twice from playing LoL in general.

According to some info I found on reddit, TheRainMan was banned due to toxicity. It was a special sort of permanent ban that they gave him because they wanted to discuss his toxic behavior with him. If he refused to discuss the behavior or if the discussion went poorly he wouldn't have gotten his account back. So essentially, it was not a permaban, it was an account lock. He got his account back following the discussion.

Now he's permanently banned, not just locked out of his account, so he'll never get that account back.

EndlessSorcerer7 votes

You've already reposted this three times that I've seen and they have all been deleted.

Since you are using a different account, did you get banned from the boards on your main?

RoG Vahn4 votes

Whats it matter to you? Why do you keep posting on it? Just don't read it if you don't like it.

I deleted the others because you kept harassing me.

BTW I got the forum ban and the in game ban taken away. GGEZ I win. Now GTFO here and go troll someone else.

Jorencice1 votes

Wait... your saying normal people don't get unbanned...

But you got unbanned....

RoG Vahn1 votes

Didn't do it through support ticket. I can PM you how i got it unbanned just not here.

Jorencice1 votes

Doesn't matter how.

Your a normal person. You got unbanned.

It's really that simple.

RoG Vahn1 votes

You're*

MythicalLegendJ1 votes

Can you PM me please. I added you on league.

Magical Player6 votes

TRM has 3 accounts banned, they were unbanned and put on 14 day ban instead since the punishment was "too harsh"

2 of the 3 accounts were permabanned for intentionally feeding at a later date. the 3rd account is not banned as far as the site knows

DrCyanide5 votes

Dominick Destine, a member of the Boards but known for little else, had a ban overturned because the manual ban jumped him from no punishment to permaban. It was reduced to a 14 ban.

Sounds like the same thing but for an average Joe if you ask me.

Deep Terror Nami3 votes

DD didn't have "a ban overturned", his account was locked for suspicious behavior and he was told to write into support about it. After they spoke with him they removed the lock, then he was given a 14 day ban due to his behavior.

While that's a different situation, I have definitely seen several people have legitimate bans reduced by player support or Riot due to their history of good behavior and sincerity to reform.

ModAttysu The Poro1 votes

{quoted}

Dominick Destine, a member of the Boards but known for little else, had a ban overturned because the manual ban jumped him from no punishment to permaban. It was reduced to a 14 ban.

Sounds like the same thing but for an average Joe if you ask me.

^ This is the most likely scenario about the pro players.

UnboundHades5 votes

when someone could be having a terrible day and get a ban because they weren't thinking right then you have streamers who are only toxic every game they play. you keep your ban but theirs gets lifted

RoG Vahn1 votes

"Why would Riot get rid of free advertising?"

This.

Kei1432 votes

cos free advertising doesn't mean it's good for the game. Especially if they want to get rid of the toxics out of the game.

4Jhín4 votes

I heard they can pay a fine to have their accounts unbanned. I don't know how true this is but I wouldn't doubt it. Why would Riot get rid of free advertising?

ModPeriscope1 votes

Why keep one streamer who into feeds? Doesn't that paint their game as negative? This doesn't support the basis of advertising, which is to bring in more customers.

archerno13 votes

They didnt get accounts unbanned. They were just allowed to make new accounts.

RoG Vahn4 votes

TRM had 3 alts and all of them were unbanned. Look on YouTube, Google, or Gamepedia.

Kei1433 votes

Lesser of lying, probably more about being confused / misdirected.

T1 supports are offshore supports and don't really play the game, so they probably don't follow the reedit news.

Ms. Jenny there probably has a sheet that reads "If they ask about why pros got unbanned, you reply [They didn't get their account back]". Their reply FAQ probably doesn't include the cases where the punishment is reduced from a permaban to a 14-day ban.

Not really her fault, it's just what was given to her from the higher ups.

RoG Vahn1 votes

Probably the same "support" AT&T uses! xD

ModPeriscope1 votes

So this streamer got banned for intentional feeding. What makes you think he's being honest about his account status?

More importantly, what are you trying to get out of this?

RoG Vahn1 votes

It's on video. It was on his stream. He couldn't lie about it on a live stream.

As for what I want to get out of this, I am just trying to show how Riot treats their casual players differently than the LCS players and streamers.

I don't really want to get anything out of this as I already have a new level 30 account with 90% of the champions that I previously had. I am just trying to get the word out.

ModPeriscope1 votes

It just sounds so obscure as to be unbelievable. They just don't revert bans unless done in error. And they have no reason to create more lenient rules for pros or streamers.

RoG Vahn1 votes

Read the link provided.

ModPeriscope1 votes

Well you have two conflicting accounts. I'm asking you why you think his bans would be reversed.

nerak231 votes

Why would Riot get rid of free advertising?

Because People are not watching a TV show and "Some" publicity Is bad. I'm Not counting how many people watch, rather what they may teach others on things Not to say and do... I'm not accusing Anyone of this it is simple fact.

nerak231 votes

Anyway, What was the "lie" can you say in your own words?

RoG Vahn1 votes

"Those players never get their accounts unbanned. They are free to make new accounts just as you are free to make a new account."

The Rain Man and Imaqtpie both had their accounts unbanned after have multiple accounts perm banned.

TRM for AFK/Feeding and Imaqtpie for boosting (which is normally insta-ban).

SexyBabyJesusZ1 votes

with tyler 1 they banned tyler, not just his accounts, thats why his ban is different than regular bans.

nerak231 votes

RoG Vahn (NA) - 20 minutes ago "Those players never get their accounts unbanned. They are free to make new accounts just as you are free to make a new account."

Okay, so link me something to prove what your saying? I seem to remember something different but since you say so, I'll take a look :)

RoG Vahn1 votes

http://lol.gamepedia.com/The_Rain_Man#Permaban

First perm ban (skip to 2:06) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MHgeHZRVlU

Full story https://esports.clickon.co/2017/05/03/former-team-solomid-top-laner-the-rain-man-receives-permanent-account-ban/

Then he was recently banned again on the same account.

I'm not sure what you're wanting. I've already linked things to what I am talking about.

nerak231 votes

RoG Vahn (NA) - less than a minute ago Didn't do it through support ticket. I can PM you how i got it unbanned just not here.

Can you PM me also??

nerak231 votes

Second Permaban The Rain Man was permabanned a second time on at least two accounts ('The Rain Man', 'IIllIIlIIIIIlIII') on May 2nd 2017 for violating Riot's Terms of Service following a post on Reddit, with a video in which he hides his screen during a streaming session followed by a replay of the same game showing him intentionally feeding. The Rain Man has responded with a YouTube video arguing that intentionally feeding is necessary in order to maximize Elo gain in the shortest amount of time. The Rain Man has expressed a desire to focus less on streaming and more on producing YouTube content since his ban took place.

K so I just posted your proof that Riot // Lies....Can you explain just how this quote convinces me of this? I have watched him! And Rainman plus the second name means that Riot DID punish Him.. ----What you fail to express is that This punishment was many years ago !

How are they the same Name? and how long ago was it punishments change.... Again I ask "Tell me the lie" ?

RoG Vahn1 votes

Jenny711 said that none of his accounts were ever unbanned. He had a perma ban that was reduced to a 14 day ban. That would mean he was unbanned.

"permabanned a second time" meaning his previous permaban was lifted.

ModThe Djinn1 votes

[{quoted}](name=RoG Vahn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=aEQm7loE,comment-id=000d0000,timestamp=2017-05-13T21:27:57.098+0000)

Jenny711 said that none of his accounts were ever unbanned. He had a perma ban that was reduced to a 14 day ban. That would mean he was unbanned.

Riot has two different things that read to the player as "Permanent Bans," but aren't actually the same as far as punishment goes.

The first is an Account Lock Permanent Ban. It means that Riot has instituted a permanent, non-behavioral ban on the account because of some issue -- often account security, financial issues, or other things. This is often reversible, since it's usually a preventative measure.

The second is an Permanent Behavioral Ban for violating Terms of Use behavioral rules. These are never reversed unless found to be applied in error, or applied too harshly given the account's history.

Those are the only circumstances in which bans are "reversed:" if they should never have been applied (or applied that harshly) in the first place.

If you want to argue that your account was banned too severely or banned in error, we will need to see your chat logs. Riot has occasionally eased back a ban the community has largely agreed was poorly applied.

nerak231 votes

RoG Vahn (NA) - 3 minutes ago ..... said that none of his accounts were ever unbanned. He had a perma ban that was reduced to a 14 day ban. That would mean he was unbanned.

Please don't use names! Friend, He is not a good role model for playing this game, sorry Dude you failed to convince me :(

nerak231 votes

RoG Vahn (NA) - 29 minutes ago Jenny711

Take this 'name and shame' off the boards !!! What kind of person has to put names up ? I can google it in a second!

Colgate Gator1 votes

When Riot catches OP being a toxic POS xd

RoG Vahn1 votes

https://pics.me.me/shock-me-say-something-intelligent-8536572.png

RoG Vahn1 votes

I'm done here. I am not going to be attacked and told that I don't know what I'm talking about.

Clearly the hive mind here is going to be defending Riot until the end so there is no point wasting my time.

I can link as much evidence to back my case that is humanly possible and you will still attack me senselessly.

I could link a video of the Riot CEO bludgeoning baby seals to death and you all would still be defending them.

Riot sucks, support sucks, the community sucks, I'm out.

If anyone wants my account it will be on Amazon. Only reason I wanted it unbanned in the first place. GGEZ I win.

Bye everybody.

[slayer-jinx-catface]

Psyrix1 votes

I mean the community is less likely to help u the more u display behavior that would seem to be the likely reason why u got banned

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