I hate it when my main is on free week...

Hello I am Bird··36 votes·3,101 views

Before anyone proceeds further, let me say /rant

Alright, we good? We good.

So, I kinda really hate it when the champion I main is on free week. It seems every time Quinn is on free week, one or more of the following seem to happen

a: I am kicked from a lobby that I was "accidentally" accepted to because they don't believe in my ability to play Quinn from a lobby and a picture

b: The enemy/our ally has Quinn, plays her terribly, and refuses to take any advice from anyone because they are using their Lolking/mobafire guide that suggests they build fucking trailblazers smite top lane

c: (Heh, that made a smiley face) Having to force me to suffer through watching said person play horribly, knowing how to use her properly

d: Seeing people vocalize their opinions, talking shit about my main.

Overall it is a very stressful experience, and something I prefer not to deal with if at all possible. But you know, that won't be the case, as Quinn will always eventually be f2p again...

You know what Nasus says: The cycle continues...

End rant.

Thank you all for enduring that :)

84 Comments

BladeSteel26 votes

Just main Yorick...problem solved.

EndlessSorcerer14 votes

Nasus players have an unspoken agreement to allow one-another to farm.

They will descend like gods and slaughter one-another's teams before resuming their farming.

HighH13 votes

54K points on Nasus here. True dat. The worst thing we can experience though is watching someone who doesn't play Nasus very often and think they're good cause they have 300 stacks at 30 minutes or losing to Riven which you can just wither and own or make her dive then RWEQ her. I cry a little when they rush iceborn gauntlet like plz I know you think it's good but there's so much better items out there. Also grouping before 300 stacks like wtf is wrong with you unless you tp'ed somewhere to help

TouchpadExpert8 votes

I main Thresh. In free week you see a whole lot of Thresh players trying to make these elaborate LCS big plays when they don't even do basic stuff properly. They toss out lanterns at the worst locations and outrun the lantern's range limit thus stranding their ally. They blow their hook/flay/box combo immediately and leave nothing up to peel. They make little to no use of their passive auto boost on flay. They start with and max the hook. They don't use the lantern to gain vision in the the fog of war. And many of them use him as an ADC. Thresh is not an ADC for a reason, his DPS is horrible. And when they rush a statik shiv on him it makes my skin crawl.

doombotMECHA1 votes

speaking from personal experience it takes multiple games of bot practice to even cs with that guy. (i still can't...)

TouchpadExpert1 votes

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speaking from personal experience it takes multiple games of bot practice to even cs with that guy. (i still can't...)

I can. He's a horrible ADC though since you need his passive on flay to be able to last hit effectively early on. And if you're using his flay passive to CS then you're not using it for trades which means you are probably losing any trades in lane. Thresh rewards players who harass in short bursts with about a 5-7 second gap in between each poke. You only all-in a target after systematically poking them down. Thresh's DPS is poor and so he is not a great ADC. Still he has a leg up on other supports who try to CS. Ever try to CS with Zilean? That thing is downright impossible to pull off.

CeexSett1 votes

I agree with everything you said there, even though I don´t play much Thresh. The only thing I got surprised with was the hook max. What do you max then? I thaught you maxed hook for the same reason you max it on Blitzcrank: to get the lower cooldown. What do you max first then?

TouchpadExpert1 votes

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I agree with everything you said there, even though I don´t play much Thresh. The only thing I got surprised with was the hook max. What do you max then? I thaught you maxed hook for the same reason you max it on Blitzcrank: to get the lower cooldown. What do you max first then?

Flay (E) first, lantern (W) second, Death sentence (Q) last, The box (R) whenever it is available. You max flay first because it has the shortest cd, it can be used offensively as well as defensively, it is your primary peel tool, it is your primary harass tool thanks to its passive. You max lantern second because it is your strongest utility ability, having a stronger shield is very helpful, having a shorter cd allows you to allot "misposition forgiveness" way more often, allows your jungler to gank more effectively, allows you to collect souls/grant bush vision more often. You max death sentence last because you use the hook for its utility not it's damage.

The main reason you max death sentence last is because the extra damage is a bad thing. As a support you should aim for assists not kills. With more damage you are more likely to "steal" the kills. And as a major component of Thresh's escape mechanic if your hook kills the jungle monster you hooked onto then you just stranded yourself and maybe an ally.These are the primary reasons why you max it last. Having a smaller window between hooks isn't a good enough trade off for the potential of limiting your utility. Because when you lock in as Thresh you should be picking him for the lantern not for the hook.

CeexSett1 votes

Does the lantern cooldown influenciate the soul-picking? Can´t you always pick souls? (It´s amazing how little I knew about my 3rd most reliable support...)

TouchpadExpert1 votes

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Does the lantern cooldown influenciate the soul-picking? Can´t you always pick souls? (It´s amazing how little I knew about my 3rd most reliable support...)

I'm not 100% sure what you mean when you ask this. You can catch souls without it but for when you want to pick up a soul over a wall or under an enemy turret you can toss out the lantern to catch those hard to reach souls. You can do this more frequently and with more impunity if you put points into it for a shorter cooldown. The cooldown timer gap between rank 5 and rank 1 on the lantern is far greater than that of rank 5 and rank 1 on death sentence. I believe the lantern cooldowns are 22 at lowest rank and 16 at highest rank. The hook is 20 at lowest rank and 12 at highest rank. Again, the lantern is far more useful than the hook is. You want that to have the shorter cooldown as it is Thresh's trademark skill.

If you're asking if the soul spawn rate is influenced by the rank of your lantern the answer is no. Regardless of rank your soul spawn rates remain constant. They are influenced by how many souls you have currently and how long the game has been going for. The longer the game and the less souls you currently have, the more souls will spawn. The game tries to keep Thresh's soul count at a constant/consistent rate. So if you're behind the game tries to accelerate your soul spawn rate to help you catch up. If you are ahead and never missing a soul spawn the game will slow down the rate of soul spawning so that Thresh isn't one of those champs who gets a lead and keeps it all game. Thresh is OP as it is so I think it is wise that Riot has this specific mechanic curbing his potential and alleviating his weak early levels.

CeexSett1 votes

Oh ok, I taught you meant that souls stopped spawning when your lantern was on cooldown, and that I never noticed it. Thanks for the enlightening

TouchpadExpert1 votes

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Oh ok, I taught you meant that souls stopped spawning when your lantern was on cooldown, and that I never noticed it. Thanks for the enlightening

No problem. The more knowledgeable you are about your champ the better you can perform.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

The cooldown timer gap between rank 5 and rank 1 on the lantern is far greater than that of rank 5 and rank 1 on death sentence. I believe the lantern cooldowns are 22 at lowest rank and 16 at highest rank. The hook is 20 at lowest rank and 12 at highest rank.

Ranking W reduces the CD from 22 to 16 (reduction of 6s). Ranking Q reduces the CD from 20 to 12 (reduction of 8s).

Not only is the CD reduction higher for Thresh's Q, it's also more signfiicant if you can land the hook due to it's innate CD reduction mechanic.

If you land Thresh's hook on a target, it's cooldown is reduced by a flat 3s. The lower the cooldown on your hook is before this (due to ranks and CDR), the more significant 3s is. It's quite possible to have is on a 4.2s CD (at 40% CDR and rank 5) when you land the hook and 7.2s CD when you miss.

I'm not trying to devalue the utility of Thresh's Lantern, but having a 1.5s stun on a 4.2s CD is quite powerful.

Ionian5 votes

When Ahri is on the free rotation...

Mirror matches... so many mirror matches....

https://media.giphy.com/media/DfWExxJMKQfMA/giphy.gif

Elisza Kitsune2 votes

Best time for a Talon main like me to strike hehehe >:3

Elisza Kitsune1 votes

XD*[slayer-jinx-catface]*

Virgin Ray1 votes

built lots of armor penetration

Singady5 votes

I main Azir

Yea....not saying he's a better camp then Quinn but oh my freaken kayle he has a learning curve. And then I got a guy trying him for the first time in a ranked game. And that's the story of why quite ranked.

DrProfVibeCheck4 votes

Now lets look at it the other way:

Lets say I would want to try a champ on free week. Lets say I go into a game and do horribly bad. Then, outta the blue, here comes the X Champion Main to flame my ass for doing bad.

Now, I have a defense for this, I want to try out this champion. I want to LEARN, but learning implies I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. If you were the person who would give me tips and tricks, I'm ok with that, but if you basically say this:

"I MAIN X CHAMPION AND YOU FUCKIN BURN MY EYES WITH UR PLAYS"

Thats not cool. How would I learn if I get flamed for learning?

Smol Squash2 votes

Me when I'm a Janna main and she was free the weekI decided to play adc a lot, and no one would listen to me when I said to quit fucking throwing tornado's for no reason. Hold the fuck on to them.

Siachi2 votes

Mildly off-topic, but since Quinn is your main, any advice? It seems like a few of my friends really like her, but I haven't got the hang of her yet. Maybe it's because I kept trying to play her in a duo lane with it seems like she's being played as a solo laner/jungler more nowadays?

The Quinndred2 votes

Play her top and just harass people with your Q and autos. Don't use your E unless you are going all in or if they dash at you. Hope this helps.

PS. Max W second, not E.

Valor Simulator2 votes

As a fellow Quinn main i only max W second if its someone i know i absolutely need to kite like garen for ex. other wise i max E second

Hello I am Bird1 votes

This.

The Quinndred1 votes

I still like maxing W second because the AS steroid is just so big when you put points into it.

Hello I am Bird1 votes

Most of the time I don't need to kite with her, so I just take more damages.

The Quinndred1 votes

Even then though, you don't get that much damage off of E at all. You would only put points into it for CDR.

Hello I am Bird1 votes

Fighting anyone with gap-closers means you need a way to reposition yourself. Not to mention it helps with ganks that happen.

The Quinndred2 votes

Same. I literally just don't play Quinn on free week because people think I'm some kind of trash can that has a computer. Then I cry inside at all the people playing her terribly.

Chespin20132 votes

I main Singed and it kills me when opposing ones build tear on him. People need to know that building into Singed's passive is a waste of time because its shit and should just get 2 dorans rings for their mana and rush usually into a Rylais which is Singed's powerspike.

BioticBrony2 votes

I main Bard. But most the people I encounter are fellow Bard mains.

waspcreaturesx2 votes

I'm caught between Veigar and Heimerdinger as my main. I don't really despise when they're on free week. I think it's funny watching people suck at them.

Everyone thinks Heimerdinger is such a brain dead champion. Ok, play him against anything ranged ever. Bye bye turrets. How about against Syndra, who can literally pick your turrets up and throw them? (Although it's quite hilarious to lane against a Syndra who doesn't know they can do that.) I'd like to see half the people who complain that Heimerdinger is brain dead play him in any of those situations and still be a useful champion.

It's funnier when Veig is free week because it's cages for days and none of them work. They'll ult a tank who has no AP (did you even read your ult?) or even better, play veigar support (you know, the champion who's sole OP brokenness is acquired by CSing.)

Your Next Kill1 votes

You are what's wrong with the world

Catastrop2 votes

My feelings this week when I played Lissandra. I however, dazzled the shit out of them with my Shiny Rank 5 Mastery and Blade Queen Lissandra. I even had a mirror match and my god, I felt so dirty.

Myrza1 votes

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Ionian2 votes

Foxfires do hit dragon though?

Myrza1 votes

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Ionian1 votes

Literally just played Ahri and foxfires hit dragon. You do know W has less range than Q right?

Joe Dredd1 votes

/rant

u dont say this at the start of a rant baby boy

Hello I am Bird2 votes

I'll be honest. I don't care xD

Joe Dredd1 votes

what're they teachin you in baby boy school

Hello I am Bird4 votes

Well, good grammar is one thing.

One thing they didn't teach me is how to be a Reddit fuckboi

DazedOnlooker1 votes

^. It's like he's asking for downvotes....

Korillo1 votes

You could only play ranked, that would solve the issues!

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